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The result was delete‎. Not counting socks, we have no opposition to deletion. asilvering (talk) 22:17, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Too promotional COI article written by user:OnixWikiEditor. As the username, the whole article is promotiong Onix Renewable Ltd. i.e, was this necessary? Founded in 2007, Onix Renewable Ltd. has developed several large-scale renewable energy projects, including wind-solar hybrid initiatives. The company has also expanded its solar module manufacturing operations, with its headquarters located in Gujarat, India.. Also none of the references provided are reliable or primary sources. ANU^writes 10:54, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

{{Re|ANUwrites}} Thank you for your feedback! I understand the concerns regarding promotional content and COI. I have now removed the following line to maintain neutrality:

"Founded in 2007, Onix Renewable Ltd. has developed several large-scale renewable energy projects, including wind-solar hybrid initiatives. The company has also expanded its solar module manufacturing operations, with its headquarters located in Gujarat, India."

Additionally, I will work on improving the article by adding reliable, independent sources and ensuring a neutral tone. If you have any specific suggestions on how the content should be framed, I would appreciate your input. Your guidance will help ensure the article aligns with Wikipedia’s standards.

Looking forward to your feedback! ~~~~ OnixWikiEditor (talk) 11:21, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Environment, and Gujarat. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 11:49, 10 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you again for your feedback! Based on your concerns, I have taken the following steps to improve the article:

1. Neutrality: I have removed any promotional wording and ensured that the article follows a neutral tone.
2. Reliable Sources: I have added multiple independent, third-party sources, including Business Standard, Mint, Financial Express, Mercom India, and The Economic Times, which meet Wikipedia's reliable source guidelines.
3. Conflict of Interest (COI): While I acknowledge the concern, I have strictly followed Wikipedia’s guidelines to ensure neutrality and verifiability.

I would appreciate your feedback on the current version of the article. If there are any specific sections that still need improvement, please let me know, and I will gladly make the necessary changes.

Looking forward to your response. Thanks! OnixWikiEditor (talk) 11:03, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@OnixWikiEditor, let's take a look into these "new" references you provided;

• ref 1: X (formerly Twitter) is not a reliable source for BLPs.
• ref 2,13,6,11,17,20: Self submissions/sponsored contents/Press releases (Proof: They have attached 'sponsored content' tags).
• ref 3,10,11: Primary sources written by Mr. Savaliya himself or his company's COO Mr. Ardik Adhiya.
• ref 9,14,15,18,19: have ZERO (0) mention of Mr. Savaliya.
• ref 4,5,7,8,12: Have each a single quoting of Mr. Savaliya saying the same sentence all over the articles.
• Therefore; ZERO(0) secondary, reliable and independent to the subject sources remained.

Even if "Onix" was notable, notability for each and every subject requires verifiable evidence because notability is not INHERITED. Sadly, it is not.

Also, could you provide the source you got all the "Early life, birth information, education, career and parents names" information? ANU^writes 15:06, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Anuwrites Thank you for your detailed feedback. I appreciate your concerns and would like to clarify the reliability of the references cited in the article.

• Reference 1: This source is from X (formerly Twitter), but it belongs to the Chief Minister of Gujarat's official government account, which should be considered a valid and authoritative source.
• Reference 6: This is from the Government of India’s official MCA (Ministry of Corporate Affairs) website, which contains business registration details. Additionally, Proof e-Room has been attached as supporting documentation.
• Reference 11: This is a statement given by Hardik Adhiya, covered by APN News, making it a secondary source, not a self-published one.
• Reference 17: This source covers the IPO launch news, which was reported by multiple major news outlets across India. The article was authored by Anurima Mondal—what evidence do you have that this is self-published?
• Reference 20: This article was written by Vaibhav Patil, a staff member at Trade Brains. Do you have any concrete proof that this is a self-published source? Moreover, the article covers multiple renewable energy companies, with Onix being just one among them. How can you claim that this is promotional? I would request you to verify facts before making such statements.
• Reference 3: This article is from The Times of India, and the author's ID refers to topic-related indexing, similar to how Quora categorizes topics. It does not mean the article was authored by Mr. Savaliya himself. As a Journeyman Editor, I’m sure you are aware of this system.
• Reference 10: This is a published book written by Divyesh Savaliya, not a news article or a self-published web post.
• Reference 11 (mentioned twice): As stated earlier, this is a statement given by Onix’s COO, covered by a news organization, not an article authored by the COO himself.
• References 9, 14, 15, 18, 19: These references were added to establish Onix Renewable’s achievements and notability. Since Divyesh Savaliya is the founder, naturally, the company’s accomplishments will be mentioned. That does not mean the sources are irrelevant.
• References 4, 5, 7, 8, 12: I have cross-verified all these sources, and they do not contain the same sentence. Additionally, Reference 7 is in Gujarati, while the others are in English. How can they all be identical? Please ensure fact-checking before making such claims.
• Early Life, Education, and Career:
  • I have provided two references for the Early Life section.
  • Information on birth details, education, and career was sourced from Medium.com, Quora, and LinkedIn (official, verified profiles). I understand that Wikipedia does not consider these highly reliable, so I am currently searching for better sources that comply with Wikipedia’s guidelines. That is why I initially classified this article as Stub-Class, just like you did in a recent case with Grace Mapunda. The article is still in development.

I respectfully request experienced editors or admins to cross-verify ANUwrites’ statements before making a final decision on the article. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 06:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Most of those sources talk about the Onyx company, not about the gentleman. I'm not sure any of these help show notability for the individua. Twitter, government websites and a book written by the subject are not helpful in proving notability. These do not increase the notability of the subject. Oaktree b (talk) 15:53, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Company might be notable, this person doesn't appear to be. Sourcing is all about the company, with little about the individual. I'm not sure the award won helps notability. Oaktree b (talk) 16:30, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Oaktree b: Thank you for your feedback! I understand the concern regarding individual notability. However, I would like to highlight a few points:

  1. Notability Through Company: Many notable individuals are recognized due to their contributions to the companies they founded. Since Divyesh Savaliya is the Founder, Chairperson, and Managing Director of Onix Renewable Ltd., his impact on the renewable energy sector is well-documented.
  2. Reliable Coverage: The article includes references from independent, reliable sources such as The Economic Times, Business Standard, Mint, Financial Express, and Mercom India. These sources not only cover Onix Renewable Ltd. but also specifically mention Divyesh Savaliya's role, leadership, and influence.
  3. Direct Mentions in Media: Divyesh Savaliya has a dedicated author/topic ID on The Economic Times (The Economic Times), which indicates significant coverage about him in a notable publication.
  4. Wikipedia’s Notability Guidelines: WP:NBIO states that a person is considered notable if they have received significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. The subject meets this criterion through multiple news articles that discuss his work, leadership, and contributions to the renewable energy industry.

  I am open to further improving the article based on specific feedback. If any sections still need additional independent sources or rewording to maintain neutrality, please let me know.

  Looking forward to your thoughts! ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 19:02, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I'd appreciate if you didn't leave disparaging remarks on my talk page for one. I neither have the time nor the technical know-how to be an administrator. I'm rather please with my accomplishments on wikipedia, not that they're any of your concern. Oaktree b (talk) 21:32, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep – Divyesh Savaliya meets WP:NBIO as an entrepreneur and leader in the renewable energy sector. Multiple independent sources, including The Economic Times, Business Standard, and Mint, cover his role beyond just the company. His contributions to solar and wind energy, as well as his public recognition, establish notability. The article can be improved with better sources, but deletion is unnecessary. A merge into the company page would diminish his individual impact.⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 04:36, 14 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Could perhaps merge a small section into an article about the company, founding a company isn't terribly notable. Having an author listing also isn't notable... The rest of the sources are as explained above. We're looking for articles about the person; we have plenty of coverage showing their association with the company. That implies notability, but the lack of extensive sourcing is what's holding us back here. No one is guaranteed an article for simply being notable, we need sources that are helpful. Sources 18, 19 and 20 are used to support the claim that this person's contributions "have been noted in energy publications", but they DO NOT mention this person. At this point, I'm unsure why they're even used in the article, they tangentially mention the Onyx company and don't mention this person at all. Oaktree b (talk) 21:35, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @Oaktree b, I appreciate your feedback, but I believe there’s a misunderstanding regarding the sources provided.

  1. Direct Mentions in Articles: Many of the sources cited do not just mention Onix Renewable Ltd.; they also discuss Divyesh Savaliya’s role, leadership, and contributions. If you open and read the full articles rather than just the titles, you will see that his name and contributions are explicitly mentioned.
  2. Search Engine Visibility: If the argument is that coverage is only about the company, then why does a simple Google search for "Divyesh Savaliya" bring up news articles specifically mentioning him? This indicates that independent media has recognized him separately from the company.
  3. Author Listing and Notability: Having an author/topic listing on The Economic Times is not something arbitrarily given to just anyone. This itself indicates significant recognition.
  4. Avoiding Misrepresentation: Stating that the sources only cover the company and not Divyesh Savaliya is factually incorrect. I request that before making such claims, the sources be properly reviewed rather than just glancing at the titles.

  I would appreciate if an administrator or Senior Editor could also review this objectively to ensure a fair and well-informed decision.

  Looking forward to constructive feedback. Thank you! ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 07:33, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Chill friend, whether admins, senior or junior editors all listen to the votes "here", we're all bound by strict WP&AFD rules, don't wait for anyone, work on proving why the article shouldn't be deleted. I hope they help us give you a short break. ANU^writes 15:10, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I've been here for 21.5 years, that's not senior enough apparently for Onix. I have nothing further to add. Oaktree b (talk) 15:21, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I am humbly sorry, sir. Articles keep getting kept or deleted; I never intended to hurt you. I was just speaking from the basics of the 24,786 edits I have made so far. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 17:22, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  @OnixWikiEditor, under what username did you make these 24,786 edits? -- asilvering (talk) 01:09, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Onyx Philos is a newer account since February 6, 2025. less than 500 edits per the page history. I suspect there was/is another account being used if they have over 20k edits... Perhaps socking, but I do not have the ability to look into that. Oaktree b (talk) 15:57, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The subject meets notability criteria with multiple independent sources covering his leadership and contributions. Coverage is not solely about the company but also highlights his role in shaping the renewable energy sector. AuthorChiman (talk) 14:08, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Please let's here from uninvolved editors. OnixWikiEditor, please be mindful of WP:BLUDGEON and do not use such extensive bolding.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 14:00, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OKay Sir ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 17:26, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The article is supported by multiple reliable sources, including Mercom India and Gujarati Mid-day, which highlight Savaliya's notable role in renewable energy. His long-standing contributions to the sector and the growth of Onix Renewable fulfill Wikipedia's criteria for notability and verifiability.✦ AuthorChiman ✦ 10:17, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I believe the subject passes WP:GNG as there is substantial coverage in reliable sources like Business Standard, The Economic Times, and Construction World. These sources provide detailed, independent information on the subject's contributions to the renewable energy sector, which supports notabilityMEET^epistolein (talk) 10:57, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  — Meetpatel7622 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. , — AuthorChiman (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

  Also @AuthorChiman please stroke at least one of your duplicate votes Star Mississippi 13:38, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep The individual’s notability is supported by coverage from multiple reliable and independent sources, meeting the WP:GNG criteria⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:08, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  You have already !Voted. Please strike one. You are not allowed to vote multiple times and are very close to being p-blocked from this page Star Mississippi 13:35, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  I am quitting this discussion. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ OnixPhilos ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 15:44, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong delete - Blatant COI/promotional page, only major contributor socked to vote keep in this AFD. Jdcomix (talk) 22:16, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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