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Nominator(s): ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 01:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yoshi's New Island is a 2014 platform video game developed by Arzest and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo 3DS, essentially serving as a direct sequel to the events of Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island. (If you participated in this article's first FA nomination, you probably remembered that.) This would still be the first article for a Yoshi game to reach FA status.

I previously nominated this article for FA back in November 2024, though there were still a few issues that needed to be resolved, mainly related to citation bombing and confusing terminology. I believe I've resolved most if not all of these issues, thanks largely in part to a peer review by RoySmith, and I'd like to give this another go. Any feedback is welcome, of course.

Courtesy pings to all major contributors in the first FA nomination: @Cukie Gherkin: @SchroCat: @Thelifeofan413: ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 01:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The reviews are used in areas where the review does not mention anything that the text says. “where the danger of a risk” is an example of overusing links as per MOS:OVERLINK. Other than that, it is a FA-worthy article. Thelifeofan413 (talk) 08:32, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your input, @Thelifeofan413: Would you mind pointing out where the phrase "where the danger of a risk" is present in the article? I'm unable to locate it anywhere. Or was that merely a random example of overlinking? ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 14:52, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It was a random example of overlinking. Thelifeofan413 (talk) 15:06, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I could give you other examples that are in the paragraph. Thelifeofan413 (talk) 15:12, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please do. Knowing the exact instances would be very helpful. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 15:13, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since I mentioned this at PR, I'll comment a bit here. You've still got Several reviewers praised its overall sense of charm and nostalgia, finding it to be among the game's best elements.[1][10][24][50][53] I assume the point of citing five different sources is to show that five different reviewers said these things. If I were to apply some pithy name to this, I guess it would be WP:SYNTH, but I'm not quite sure that's what SYNTH is getting at. In any case, it doesn't seem like best practice. I think what you want to do is summarize each review on its own, with an individual citation to it. RoySmith (talk) 22:07, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@RoySmith: I believe I was able to rephrase that portion to avoid any synthesis while remaining focused on the same topics. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 04:16, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, that's better. Now, please find all the other places in the article where you have citation clusters and do the same thing. As some examples but not an exhaustive list:

• The game's soundtrack received heavy criticism,[5][7][13][18]
• particularly while stationary.[31][34][50][53]
• Miscellaneous topics of criticism included ... gyroscope controls in the transformation sections.[6][21][53][54]

RoySmith (talk) 14:58, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This caught my eye. Noting here that I'll do a source review soon, please poke me if I don't post something by the weekend. UpTheOctave! • 8^va? 02:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed diff/1276615707

Reliability and quality

• Per the summary at WP:VG/S, additional caution should be taken with CGMagazine articles circa 2014. What makes this review a high-quality reliable source?
• I see a couple of Destructoid sources: what makes these particular authors high-quality reliable sources?
• What makes TheGamer a high-quality reliable source?
• Is there a better source that could replace Garcia (2014), a press release?

Formatting consistency

• Inconsistent use of title vs. sentence case
• Per MOS:CONFORMTITLE, Yoshi's New Island should be italicised in reference titles
• Inconsistent use of publisher parameter

Other comments

• Ref 4: shouldn't this be Moore, Joshua?
• Ref 16: Kotaku should be italicised in the title
• Ref 18: missing access date
• Ref 21: EGM should be italicised in the title
• Ref 33: reduce double quotes to single quotes; Crunchyroll should be the website, not the publisher
• Ref 35: italics for Yoshi's Woolly World and Mario Maker
• Ref 38: incorrect date
• Ref 44: where are we getting the original publishing date from?
• Ref 50: "Edge Staff" is not an author
• Ref 53: the newspaper is The Observer, they share a site; incorrect date
• Ref 56: "Nintendo Life Staff" is not an author
• Ref 58: if we're linking to Nintendo Life, then we should also link to TheGamer; incorrect date
• Ref 61: missing page number; does this book have authors?
• Booklet: missing archive; reduce allcaps per MOS:ALLCAPS

Spotchecks

• Ref 1: pass
• Ref 3: (a) does not mention Naoto Ohshima (b, c and d) pass
• Ref 4: pass
• Ref 11: does not mention that bosses are enlarged by Kamek
• Ref 13: pass
• Ref 16: pass
• Ref 26: pass
• Ref 30: pass
• Ref 32: (a) does not say these members were "key" (b) this quote should probably be attributed to Tezuka (c) pass
• Ref 33: says Tezuka produced Yoshi's Island, not directed
• Ref 37: pass
• Ref 48: pass
• Ref 51: pass
• Ref 52: pass
• Ref 56: pass
• Ref 63: pass

Thoughts

• A few thoughts on reliability, consistency, formatting and verification. Please ping when done. UpTheOctave! • 8^va? 21:11, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your initial comments, @UpTheOctave!: I believe I've been able to address most if not all of them. Here's some notes of my own:

• The press release has been removed, as there's another citation that should already support the information on its own.
• Yoshi's New Island and all other game titles should now be italicized in references and external links.
• I generally include the publisher parameter whenever the work/website's publisher also has a Wikipedia article.
• shouldn't this be Moore, Joshua? I would think so(?) But I don't see it formatted that way anywhere on the site.
• The missing access date has been found and added.
• I've checked the "incorrect dates" several times, but they looked correct to me. However, I did update an outdated date and added an orig-date.
• Non-authors have been removed from citations.
• Original publishing dates come from the Wayback Machine.
• The Observer is now the credited work in citations rather than The Guardian.
• I've added the publisher for TheGamer, Valnet, to the corresponding citation.
• I've found citations to support the bosses being enlarged by Kamek and Tezuka directing the game. Tezuka's quote has been properly attributed. Somehow, I've never been able to find a reliable, non-user-generated source to support Naoto Ohshima being a producer for the game.
• I'm not seeing any authors for the book, and I unfortunately don't have access to it to determine an exact page number.
• The booklet has been archived.

My main concerns lie with some of the sources.

• The author of the CGMagazine article has written more than 600 articles for the site, but the YNI review happened to be published in March 2014.
• The author of the Destructoid review has been writing for the site since 2009 and was reviews director at the time of the review's publication. The author of the other Destructoid source has written almost 1,500 articles for the site since 2015 as an editor-at-large.
• Content from TheGamer has been presumed reliable since c. August 2020, and the article was last updated in March 2024. This source is used for a list ranking rather than news or other factual details.

Please don't hesitate to let me know if anything else has come up since your original suggestions. Thanks! --★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 21:32, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the replies. I'm currently travelling, but should be back to address these by Monday. UpTheOctave! • 8^va? 23:19, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Will review this. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 10:56, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]