The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 14:29, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Non-notable former college football player, only reached the semi-proffesional leagues, fail WP:BIO Delete Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 23:28, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Played for Houma Bayou Bucks (I added wikilink when reading article). They were a pro indoor team. While I totally agree that this is kinda weak, this meets policy here and pretty much every player than played for an indoor team gets a pass to be on wikipedia, just as any AAA baseball player does. Needs references and verfication, but that isn't a reason to delete. Now with the wikilink to his former team (which is notable by wikipedia standards) I think you have to keep him. Pharmboy 23:35, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's just a minor league football league, not "fully proffesional" as required by WP:BIO, unlike the AAA which is fully proffesional, of course the team and the league is notable, but not the players. There is also consensus in AFD supporting that they aren't notable, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Royal Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 23:40, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • As you know, the results of a AFD aren't policy for future decisions, and honestly, I would have to disagree with the result of that AFD anyway. Arena football IS the minors for all intent and purposes, it is televised, and the subject and teams are notable enough to be articles here. We just disagree about threshold of what is "professional" enough, and I would rather err on the side of being inclusive rather than exclusive when it comes to areas like sports, music and the arts as it is often in the eye of the beholder. Pharmboy 23:48, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a american sports expert I think you may have gotten confused with another league, this league is not Arena Football League, (which is the fully proffesional minor league, and those are the players who meet BIO somewhat), the league he used to play for was just an average semi-proffesional league that isn't affiliated with them and there are tons of them with thousands of players. Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 23:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep 3 year starter at a major D1 program, with significant coverage like this, this, and more at google news Corpx 04:56, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  05:48, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep for the same arguments as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeff Wickersham. MECU≈talk 12:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, per above. The player had a significant career at the top level in American college football --a sport which is, as anyone who lives in America and pays attention to the sport can attest-- as big a sport as any pro league, and bigger than smaller professional leagues such as Soccer or even Hockey. Article could use clean-up, though. --Bobak 16:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again same with tens of thousands of others that never reached the pros Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 16:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Corpx, who I have come to trust in these discussions. Burntsauce 21:47, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Corpx. Seancp 23:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.