Talk:Views of Elon Musk
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Women in Technology
Is this section really needed, may I ask? The main point of the section stems around a joke Elon made on Twitter which had a controversial reaction, which is an incredibly common occurrence. Even so, the title is rather odd, implying that Musk explicitly has a "view" on Women in Technology. If the section was to remain, the main article for Musk may be better suited for it. PrecariousWorlds (talk) 18:29, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
- After the test of time, "TITS" indeed seems to have been a joke. At least, it has not translated into an apparent plan for an actual school by any name.
- The section doesn't state any of the subject's views, and as written is currently written is functionally a WP:SOAPBOX for aggregating miscellaneous criticisms. Foonix0 (talk) 03:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- Being a joke doesn't negatively impact its dueness. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 06:21, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Halchal Yadav@ 178.152.11.86 (talk) 13:31, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
- The main point of the section as reflected in the sources is more than that. It seems due given the coverage we have of it. If the sources didn't put it in the context of Elon's larger views of women in technology you would have a point... But they do. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 04:23, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- If there is a source that actually articulates what those views are, then put it in the article. Foonix0 (talk) 08:16, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- We have sources that say his views are expressed by that Tweet, thats why its in the article. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:51, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- If there is a source that actually articulates what those views are, then put it in the article. Foonix0 (talk) 08:16, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
- I personally think that this section should be removed unless there are more sources describing what Musk's views are. The section has one vulgar joke and has some analysis about Tesla's work culture, not his views. I'm going to boldly remove it. ―Panamitsu (talk) 02:47, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
- Horse Eye's Back If you disagree with this please explain why. When making reverts you should give an explanation instead of just "revert bold". ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:22, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Generally contested content remains on the page until the discussion has concluded, I have aleady explained why I think that the text is due. I would also note that you appear to have deleted rather than moved the text, so you don't appear to be arguing that its undue here but undue anywhere on wiki. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:36, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps it's more due on the article Texas Institute of Technology and Science? ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:39, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thats not a bad idea, that article wasn't around when that section was created here. This article used to be much more of a catch all for Musk stuff that wasn't strictly related to his business but the expansion of Musk's importance in the last year or two has seen Business career of Elon Musk, International relations of Elon Musk, Public image of Elon Musk, Political activities of Elon Musk, etc all being broken out into stand alone articles. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:47, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- On further thought I think about half of it could be moved to Criticism of Tesla, Inc. or List of lawsuits involving Tesla, Inc. since it's more about Tesla than Musk. That Tesla stuff might not be worth adding to the Texas Institute article because it's not exactly about the institute. ―Panamitsu (talk) 10:31, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Thats not a bad idea, that article wasn't around when that section was created here. This article used to be much more of a catch all for Musk stuff that wasn't strictly related to his business but the expansion of Musk's importance in the last year or two has seen Business career of Elon Musk, International relations of Elon Musk, Public image of Elon Musk, Political activities of Elon Musk, etc all being broken out into stand alone articles. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:47, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Perhaps it's more due on the article Texas Institute of Technology and Science? ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:39, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Generally contested content remains on the page until the discussion has concluded, I have aleady explained why I think that the text is due. I would also note that you appear to have deleted rather than moved the text, so you don't appear to be arguing that its undue here but undue anywhere on wiki. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:36, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- Horse Eye's Back If you disagree with this please explain why. When making reverts you should give an explanation instead of just "revert bold". ―Panamitsu (talk) 23:22, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
Where is the section on climate change?
The lead mentions this as one of the major topics he's expressed views on, but it's barely addressed at all in the article. 186.73.32.208 (talk) 07:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)
- At the moment it's in bits and pieces scattered throughout the article. Consolidation into an "Environment" section might be a good idea, but there is some subject overlap with things like "Subsidies." Foonix0 (talk) 01:39, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
The "salute" is not appropriate for this article.
This article is Views of Elon Musk. It is about Elon Musk's views. The "salute" is not a view, it is a thing that happened. The topic is already covered on both Elon Musk and Nazi_salute#Elon_Musk_at_the_2025_Donald_Trump_presidential_inauguration and is being debated on both talk pages. We don't need 3 different pages covering the same topic, and we certainly don't need 3 different sets of talk discussion arguments about what parts of it to include and what not to include. So I've added a See Also to direct there (this seemed a good idea in regardless), and propose to remove it from this page for consolidation, as it does not go here. Foonix0 (talk) 22:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. This whole section should be immediately reverted per WP:BRD so that anyone who wants to argue that an ambiguous gesticulation is notable and relevant enough to be included here can do so on the talk page. Also, this violates BLP because the clear connotation of putting this in an article on "views" is to suggest that Elon Musk "believes in" the Nazi ideology, without any evidence. Manuductive (talk) 22:25, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Generally agree, a salute, Nazi or not, isn't a view. There is also the child article Political activities of Elon Musk, where it certainly would be relevant (as attending a presidential inauguration is certainly a political activity). I'm going to boldy remove now based on this discussion. CNC (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
- Ok ThatIsAllFolks (talk) 13:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Related discussion in progress
See: Talk:Ideological_bias_on_Wikipedia#Elon_Musk's_viewpoints Manuductive (talk) 09:05, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
"it's defunding"
in section on Wikipedia, should be "its defunding". "It's" always means "it is"; "its" always means "of it". 2607:FEA8:FF01:4FA6:7CD1:F44:4CAA:BB4F (talk) 13:03, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Done. CNC (talk) 13:08, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
"sanctity of marriage"
this phrase does not occur in the linked article and indicates "original research". It is curious that it has been used and appears to be an attempt to darken Musk's reputation 2607:FEA8:FF01:4FA6:7CD1:F44:4CAA:BB4F (talk) 13:35, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- I already cleaned up a similar edit based on original research, [1] but this was simply restored with similar, [2] so am avoiding edit warring over this. Hopefully someone else will remove this POV pushing OR again though. CNC (talk) 17:28, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Done by @Horse Eye's Back. [3] CNC (talk) 21:08, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Tweets
I don't like to touch these contentious topics, but I happened upon this page and I feel like the overuse of tweets makes this look much more like a WikiNews article than an encyclopedia article. Articles of a similar type such as Political positions of Donald Trump, Views of Kanye West, etc. do not include tweets at all, let alone to this degree. That alone isn't enough to warrant removing them of course, but I think it's worth consideration. Kylemahar902 (talk) 00:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)