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The table under the Sales by Country section has percentages for each country of the total worldwide sales...They're all wrong. I don't know how they were calculated but they all appear to be wrong. Someone with more time than me will have to sort that (I'm semi-retired). Thanks ツ Jenova20 ^(email) 13:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not only that, it hasn't been updated since 2018 or something and the electric car landscape has changed vastly in the meanwhile. Somewhere in the article it says that the Model S is the second best selling electric car when in fact the Model 3 and Y have eclipsed it long ago. dllu (t,c) 07:20, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you have references, then you are more than welcome to update them yourself. Ask for help if you need it.  Stepho  talk  06:52, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

For example, here are the sales figures for the third quarter: [1] and it is straightforward to find the figures for every quarter prior to then. Since I work at Tesla, I have a conflict of interest so I will abstain from editing the article directly; however, in the upcoming days, if I have time, I can write some draft sections and suggest them with {{request edit}}. dllu (t,c) 22:46, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There are three shooting brake conversions commercially available, should these be mentioned? Wiki pages for other car models sometimes includes this. 2A01:799:952:4500:E84E:8E6D:88E3:65AA (talk) 10:46, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is rare for us to mention custom (ie non-factory) modifications on any car article. If we did, each article would have a near-endless list of modifications possible to the body, engine, brakes, suspension, etc. The particular modifications are often limited in geographical location and the time period they are offered for, so they are of limited use to the majority of readers. So we restrict ourselves to factory offerings.  Stepho  talk  11:27, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The version section is an absolute mess. Some versions get a long text, some don't, some references are made to models that aren't describbed ("The 70D replaced the 60, 60D, and P85", with no 60D ever mentioned), one of the images mentions a P85+, which isn't talked about anywhere... I suggest that the section is replaced by a table like this (values are from https://blog.clutch.ca/posts/understanding-the-different-tesla-model-s-versions , to be checked before the table is added, maybe data from ev-database.org ):

With a break at the facia redesign.

NilsTillander (talk) 12:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your scheme looks fine in general. Thinking about international readers and readers not well versed in car stuff, some details to change are:

1. What does "NRCAN" mean? A link would be good.
2. Values and symbols should have a space between them - see WP:CARUNITS and WP:UNITS.
3. Those "hp" and "lb-ft" look suspiciously like power and torque figures but in ancient units used by our grandfathers - see WP:CARUNITS and WP:UNITS.
4. "??" values should be left blank.
5. "Abbandon of (P)kWh(D) naming scheme", misspelling of "abandon". Perhaps replace with "After (P)xx(D) naming scheme abandoned".
6. Are those calendar years or model years? Non-Americans mostly use calendar years and do not understand US style model years. Americans assume model years unless told different.

But these are minor things that can be tweaked.  Stepho  talk  00:16, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hei @Stepho-wrs,

Thank you for your input!

• I put NRCAN values here (the canadian authority for car stuff, I assume), but maybe having the US and EU standards listed (as well?) would be best. It is rather tricky to source the data for all models.
• Good point for units
• I agree that kW and N⋅m are the better units, but the car industry still mostly communicates in hp and lb-ft. I would convert the values before publishing the table as well.
• Yes, I was hoping for other users to chime in before the table makes it to the page
• ok
• These are production years. Tesla doesn't use the odd American "model year" concept, as far as I know.

NilsTillander (talk) 17:51, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow, nearly every section has to stay from factual and balanced data into negative and misleading coverage territory. It is true that media coverage of Tesla vehicles has always had that sort of cognitive dissonance and that Wackopedia likes to rely on (selected) mass media for its plagi^H quotes but I wonder if that is the only reason.

It makes for very distracting reading when one comes here looking for cold, hard facts (don't be childish and try to argue that 'piece of bullshit X' is a cold hard fact, if you're of sound mind you know exactly what I mean). 37.188.184.244 (talk) 15:39, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confused here. The article is 100% cited via reliable sources. It’s a comprehensive article, so i have no idea what you’re talking about. 750h+ 23:35, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Or to put it another way, point out a couple of concrete examples of where we got it wrong. Once we know what the issue is then we can see if it is a systematic problem throughout the article.

Re: Wackopedia, childish - name calling isn't the way to encourage us volunteers to help you.  Stepho  talk  02:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Talk pages are for talking about improving the article, you're not helping anyone, including yourself, by simply ranting about how bad the article is. This 6,000 word article has nearly 300 citations from reliable sources per sources that are reliable per numerous discussions, as well as many prominent automotive sources like Car and Driver and Road & Track. By far this is most likely the most comprehensive article/source on the Tesla Model S. 750h+ 02:51, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article says "critics have called the Model S one of the most significant and influential electric cars in the industry." with no citation or elaboration as to who these "critics" are, and where these declarations have been made.

I attempted to put a "citation needed" tag on it with an explanation, but it was quickly reverted. How can this statement be left hanging in the article with nothing to support it? As it stands, it is either an outsourced claim, or the personal opinion of an editor. Neither belong. Hugzz (talk) 03:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hugzz The content is cited in the Reception and legacy section. Lead sections are supposed to summarize the contents of the article body. Therefore, except for complex, current, or controversial subjects, citations are not required in the lead so long as the content is cited elsewhere in the article. - ZLEA _T\^C 07:32, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clarifying! Hugzz (talk) 08:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]