Talk:Julio Jones
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Is Jones still single? ... married? ... family? Bearian (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2021
109.95.206.11 (talk) 17:05, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Quintorris Lopez "Julio" Jones Jr. is an American football wide receiver for the Tennessee Titans of the National Football League.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ◢ Ganbaruby! (talk) 17:26, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2021 (2)
I want to change his team back to the Atlanta Falcons, as there has been no official announcement from atlantafalcons.com or tennesseetitans.com. TheHistoryTyper (talk) 19:20, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
- Another editor has already undone the edits about the Titans. RudolfRed (talk) 20:24, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2021 (3)
Julio is on the Titans BRzShadow1121 (talk) 20:52, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Melmann 20:53, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
09/18/21 Fine
His unnecessary roughness penalty was issued 9/18/21, not 10/18/21… in the future? UnregisteredOffender (talk) 21:24, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2022
In the second sentence -- "Before playing for the titans, he played for the Atlanta Falcons for ten seasons" -- change "titans" to "Titans" to reflect the proper noun status of the team's name. Sliptoad (talk) 00:28, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
Done OccultSlolem (talk) 06:12, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Kaleeb18 (talk · contribs) 00:36, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
I will gladly take this review using the table below. Julio is one of my favorite players to watch. ― Kaleeb18TalkCaleb 00:36, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 26 July 2022
Julio now plays for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was signed on 7/26/22. Flamingturtle69 (talk) 20:32, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:39, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- Note that Schefter citing anonymous sources, and other pages that cite his report, are not considered valid sources. Until an official announcement is made, it's speculation and gossip. Hey man im josh (talk) 21:07, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
- The Buccaneers announced in their Instagram. It's official:
- https://www.instagram.com/p/CghNAA1saJO/ Bob.rb (talk) 14:41, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
- Done. The article was updated with his signing shortly before you shared the link. Did the cleanup and added a category and navbox this morning.
Stop Changing Edit
Stop changing the edit from one of the greatest wide-recivers of all time to one of the greatest wide recievers of the 2010’s. I added a source where he was ranked among the greatest of all-time, and this is objectevly known, so I don’t understand why someone keeps changing it back. 108.35.26.152 (talk) 23:09, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- He must widely be considered one of the greatest for us to include such a statement, a single source won't do it. Also, speaking from what I've heard and seen, he's definitely not considered as such unless you stretch it out to top 10. Top 10 usually aren't labelled as "one of the greatest", and this type of declaration is usually for people in the discussion for being the greatest, such as Randy Moss, Jerry Rice, and Calvin Johnson. Hey man im josh (talk) 23:16, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I won’t argue over this, agree with the top 10 thing (I personally have him at 8 or 9) but if a guy like Cris Carter has that distinction Julio Jones should too, I would say they are regarded about equal all time 108.35.26.152 (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing with you either, I'm telling you what's required in order to add the statement that you want to. Fine numerous sources which widely state he's one of the greatest of all time. PS. It may also be relevant that Cris Carter has almost twice as many touchdowns (130) as Julio does (66). Hey man im josh (talk) 23:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- Julio doesn't even have 1,000. The NFL wasn't invented 10 years ago. Feels undue to say he's one of the greatest, but it needs sources regardless. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 23:44, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not arguing with you either, I'm telling you what's required in order to add the statement that you want to. Fine numerous sources which widely state he's one of the greatest of all time. PS. It may also be relevant that Cris Carter has almost twice as many touchdowns (130) as Julio does (66). Hey man im josh (talk) 23:33, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
- I won’t argue over this, agree with the top 10 thing (I personally have him at 8 or 9) but if a guy like Cris Carter has that distinction Julio Jones should too, I would say they are regarded about equal all time 108.35.26.152 (talk) 23:23, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
Greatest of his generation
Hey @Left guide, I noticed this edit you made, changing the text in the lead to He is widely regarded as the greatest receiver of his generation.
– This is a change I disagree with, as many might regard first-ballot Hall of Famer Calvin Johnson as the greatest of their generation (I personally do). Sources include:
- ESPN –
...he was the dominant receiver of his generation.
- NFL.com – Ranked #8 on the list of top 10 WRs all time, Julio not included
- Bleacher Report –
...as one of the best receivers of his generation.
- USA Today –
The Lions’ pettiness back in 2016 burned a bridge with the greatest wide receiver of his generation.
- ESPN – Ranking the top 25 players since 2000, in which they ranked Calvin Johnson #6, but did not include Julio.
- Fox Sports – List of 10 best WRs of all time, Julio not included but Johnson included at #5
- NFL.com – Article ranking Johnson the second best WR of all time
- USA Today – Top 10 WRs all time, includes Johnson at #7, no mention of Julio
- NFL.com – Johnson was a finalist for the NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team, whereas Julio was not
- Pro Football Network — Top 10 WR list which includes Johnson but not Julio
- Detroit Free Press – Refers to him as generational
It's not cut and dry that Julio is the best of his generation, and there's tons of sources out there that support him not being that. This is why, from my perspective, it's important to revert back to the previous phrasing of He is regarded as one of the greatest receivers of the 2010s.
, which is unquestionably accurate, less controversial, and more neutral. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also pinging @Red Director and @Axhme01 for input, as they've both recently made changes to the lead involving the "greatest" sentence. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:41, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Hey man im josh: Thanks for starting this thread. The sources I supplied directly support the claim being made. I was mainly doing this to help out after seeing the AN report to hopefully ease and resolve the tensions on the edit-warring. I'll self-revert as a courtesy since you've challenged it, but I'm not really interested in engaging in a long debate or discussion about this, so maybe open an RfC or solicit WT:NFL for wider input to reach consensus since it seems to be controversial. Left guide (talk) 16:00, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- It is amazing that we are still spending time on this lol. Stats backup the 2010s claim. Being considered an all-time or generational receiver is an opinion at best and the stats certainly do not back those up. Just my thoughts. Red Director (talk) 16:07, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Here are the sources that triggered this discussion with quotes: "Julio Jones is widely considered the greatest wideout of his generation" and "Jones is widely considered the best wide receiver of his generation". Left guide (talk) 16:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- So, I ran a StatMuse from 2010-2024 (covers all of Julio's career). He does lead in receiving yards, but lacks the receptions and touchdown catches. He is definetly 'among' the best of the generation, which his career does encapsulate the defination of a generation. You cannot definitively state that he is the 'best'. AB, Hopkins, AJ Green, Evans, Kelce, and Fitzgerald all have claims in statistical areas. Red Director (talk) 16:34, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Right, and there's sources that also say the same thing about Calvin Johnson. Hence, from my perspective, why it makes sense to say "one of", instead of getting into debates about who was technically the greatest. As Red Director mentions, there's different aspects to what defines someone as the best of their generation, but just to add, the situations they're in, the help that they had, and how they elevated those around them are also additional things to consider that into such a conversation. It's why it makes it near impossible from my perspective to state one player is the greatest of their generation, let alone the greatest in just about any context. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:39, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oh, also, the second source claims that Jones is first in yards per game, which was just barely true at the time, but they've since dropped to fifth in yards per game, below Johnson and fellow 2010s wide receiver Antonio Brown Hey man im josh (talk) 18:31, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Like I said above last year, Jones doesn't even have 1,000 catches in the pass-happy modern NFL. Antonio Brown had four AP first-team All-Pros and Jones had two. Jones was also not a unanimous selection for the NFL 2010s All-Decade Team. There were eight unanimous players on that team but none of the four receivers were unanimous. So I don't think it's correct to indisputably state in wiki-voice that's he's the "greatest" receiver of his generation. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:14, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Here are the sources that triggered this discussion with quotes: "Julio Jones is widely considered the greatest wideout of his generation" and "Jones is widely considered the best wide receiver of his generation". Left guide (talk) 16:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- It is amazing that we are still spending time on this lol. Stats backup the 2010s claim. Being considered an all-time or generational receiver is an opinion at best and the stats certainly do not back those up. Just my thoughts. Red Director (talk) 16:07, 29 January 2025 (UTC)