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Two of the writers, Dan Hernandez and Benji Samit, now have their own wikipedia entries, so brackets should be added to link to them from this article. [[User:Benji2000|Benji2000]] ([[User talk:Benji2000|talk]]) 07:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
Two of the writers, Dan Hernandez and Benji Samit, now have their own wikipedia entries, so brackets should be added to link to them from this article. [[User:Benji2000|Benji2000]] ([[User talk:Benji2000|talk]]) 07:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
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Detective Pikachu will now be distributed by Warner Bros. instead of Universal Pictures

Hey, everyone. I just wanted to inform everyone that Warner Bros. will now distribute the Detective Pikachu movie.[1]

MatthewRC (talk) 22:21, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Production company(s)

NinjaRobotPirate, why did you add Universal and Toho? See the official trailer: Warner Bros. Pictures, Legendary Entertainment, The Pokémon Company. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 12:17, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As I explained to you on your talk page, a trailer is not a reliable source. A reliable source has editorial control. A trailer does not have editorial control. Variety Insight has editorial control. Variety Insight is thus a reliable source. Interpreting what you see in a trailer is original research. Copying what a reliable source says is not. This is why {{infobox film}} says " When possible, this should be cited to reliable secondary sources that explicitly identify the production companies." This is to prevent what you're doing – using original research to interpret primary sources. Universal and Toho are listed by Variety Insight. See, for example, this cached version of Variety's database. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:22, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This is outdated information. The movie moved from Universal to Warner Bros. in July (Variety). Also see Pokémon: Detective Pikachu#Production. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 12:24, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just because the film moved from one studio to another does not mean the first studio is not a production company. What makes something a production company is being listed as such by a reliable source – not your own belief. Variety says they're a production company, so they are. It's really that simple. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 12:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Universal was removed from the "production company" at the end of July. The fact that you're just now adding it to the article looks weird. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 12:48, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
NinjaRobotPirate, Variety's database does not say that Legendary is a distributor. This calls into question the reliability of the source. Federal Chancellor (NightShadow) (talk) 14:09, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You've got to be kidding me. I'm an administrator on Wikipedia, and I don't have time to get engaged in debates on who produced or distributed films for little kids. I'm just removing this article from my watchlist. Stop pinging me – I'm busy doing other things, and I don't have time to explain to you what a reliable source is. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:30, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pokemon Appearances

There should be a list of all the different Pokemon that appear in the movie.

Something this detailed probably belongs better on Bulbapedia or specific sites; Wikipedia isn't for every information available. Juxlos (talk) 13:51, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. Besides, the list is likely to be enormous and very difficult to get 100% accurate, if the amount seen in the background in the trailer alone is anything to go by. Plus, pages for other Pokémon movies don’t have this, aside from some that are a major feature of the movie. GloverMist (talk) 15:21, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Marketing

I've removed the "Marketing" section as seen here per WP:FILMMARKETING. Per the guidelines, such a section needs to be more than customary marketing methods. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 15:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What was wrong with it? What do you mean by "customary marketing methods"? The section looked similar to what I've seen on other movie articles (e.g. MCU movies). Maestro2016 (talk) 16:59, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The methods that everyone uses, releasing posters and trailers and TV spots. It's indiscriminate detailing. These can be mentioned if there is more to say that just that these were released. See The Martian (film)#Marketing for an example. I haven't read the MCU movies' marketing coverage, but hopefully they are more than just the indiscriminate detailing that is disallowed. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 18:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Another example is Valkyrie (film)#Marketing. Basically, if a film does not have anything besides the usual stuff, there does not need to be a "Marketing" section in its article. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:00, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just saw that the "Marketing" section was restored with view-related details about the trailer. That works great! Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 19:04, 13 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Heck instead of fuck

Why does it say that Danny DeVito said "What the [heck] is Pokémon" instead of "What the fuck is Pokémon"?

Probably some self-censorship. Anyways, I just added "fuck" into a Wikipedia article. Juxlos (talk) 15:18, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Executive producer list, & "Japanese co-production"

Okay, so ... who is executive producing this film? The IPs' cryptic edit summaries make it difficult to tell what they are referring to. Could someone put together a list of sources currently in this article and other sources supposedly available on "the official website" and list the different exec prods given in each? Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:34, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.detectivepikachumovie.net/ does indeed appear to have a poster-style production billing visible when one clicks the "legal" in the bottom right, listing Carraciolo, Mendes, Ishihara, Okubo, Miyahara, Matsuoka, and Ota, but with just the names, and no indication that these are executives of TPC. Also (obviously) we can't be including information from this source and falsely attributing it to the Business Insider source, which only gives Caracciolo, Jr. and "The Pokémon Company's Tsunekazu Ishihara". Additionally, this other source currently cited in the article lists Joseph M. Caracciolo Jr., Kenji Okubo, Satoshi Tajiri, Toshio Miyahara, and Tsunekazu Ishihara.
On top of this, the fact that these men appear from their names to be Japanese doesn't really make this an American-Japanese co-production. None of the secondary sources imply that TPC is one of the production companies, and even if we were allowed assume they were I don't see why we would: all our articles on the Japanese animated films suggest that TPC have never acted as the production company for a film, as OLM, Inc. appears to have produced all of them. Owning the copyright on the original IP does not make them one of the production companies by default, and it doesn't make this a Japanese film.
Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Look, we don't need a citation on the fact that Toho helped produce this film. It says in the production billing that they did. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 12:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

we don't need a citation on the fact that Toho helped produce this film Yes, we do. I would be incredibly surprised if Toho were involved in the production of this film, given that it's an American film being produced halfway around the world from them, and they weren't even (apparently) directly involved in the production of any of the Japanese animated films. It says in the production billing that they did. Is that what "in association with" means? That seems a bit ambiguous; you will need a reliable secondary source to support your interpretation of that primary source -- otherwise its original research. Hijiri 88 (やや) 14:30, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2019

Budget $60 million Source: https://bestmoviecast.com/?s=detective+pikachu 173.79.40.106 (talk) 15:18, 9 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: Can't find any other sources to back this up, but new information is bound to come out. Breawycker (talk to me!) 00:37, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. DannyS712 (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Khary Payton

Can you remove Khary Payton from the billing block please? He is not on the billing block of this movie — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 12:54, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 April 2019

Infos are not according to the official's website credits: https://i.imgur.com/rDXFH1f.png

Legendary Pictures and Toho are the only production companies, as it appears "A Legendary Pictures production in association with Toho Co., Ltd".

The "based on" should be for Great Detective Pikachu and credited by The Pokémon Company and Creatures Inc., as it appears "Based on the Great Detective Pikachu video game developed by The Pokémon Company and Creatures Inc. Youngmiserable (talk) 18:45, 10 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Think about it like DC movies. The company itself isn't credited, even though it's their property. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 19:53, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. DannyS712 (talk) 20:16, 15 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Carry On

Hey, can someone put the wiki page of Carry On in place of “Carry On”?

No colon in the title

Not sure why you locked it but there is no colon in the title in and official material, billing or site for the movie. The movie does not have a colon in it. Please remove the colon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fdslkjfdslkj (talk • contribs) 03:28, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Fdslkjfdslkj: Colons are how we conventionally separate titles from subtitles. Wikipedia titles for articles on pop culture topics are not meant to reflect the logo of the film but the actual title. When there is a line break clearly meant to represent a subtitle, we reflect that on a single line with a colon. It's a Pokemon film distinguished from other such films by the title Detective Pikachu; it's not about a Pokemon Detective named Pikachu, which wouldn't make sense in Japanese where the title of the original game is clearly an allusion to 名探偵ホームズ. Hijiri 88 (やや) 01:38, 30 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Hijiri88: I'm sorry but you are incorrect here. the official text billing on movie posters (the billing, not the logo) does not have a colon. they purposely made a choice to not have a colon, it is not up to you to add one...in addition this is a production by Legendary, the Japanese aspect is not a deciding factor. -Fdslkjfdslkj
@Hijiri88: Look at the bottom of the theatrical poster. There is no colon. Remove it. It's not up to you. That's stupid. We should go by the OFFICIAL title. Detective Pikachu is not a subtitle.

Request editing

Detective Pikachu is based on The Pokémon Company, not only Creatures, Inc. This is a misleading. All official information shows that The Pokémon Company is in the first position. Please change it. Lucas two (talk) 15:43, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lucas two: Source? This article's footnote appears to reflect the content of our main Detective Pikachu article. There is nothing stopping you from adding the information to that article if you have a source. Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:51, 27 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/meitantei_pikachu/ https://detectivepikachu.pokemon.com/en-us/ They all show that The Pokémon Company is in the first position. Creatures, Inc in here is just the same status as Game Freak in the main series. When we mention Pokemon main series, we will say that it is from The Pokémon Company (or Nintendo). So Detective Pikachu should be like this. (Or at least plus The Pokémon Company.) Lucas two (talk) 06:04, 2 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

REMOVE THE COLON

Whoever added the colon is a dimwit who doesn't know what he's talking about and only trying to push a colon agenda. The title, as shown in the bottom of the theatrical poster AND all marketing material is Pokémon Detective Pikachu WITHOUT the colon. That is the full title. Don't pull that Wikipidea/subtitle excuse out because (1) "Detective Pikachu" is not a subtitle. It is part of the MAIN title. (2) Wikipidea shouldn't be allowed to alter the title of a movie. Remove the colon. https://i.imgur.com/rDXFH1f.png Scott Sullivan (talk) 08:18, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In a less angry tone, I agree - IMDB, Warner Bros, etc all do not use colon. Manual of Style should not get in the way of basically all sources. Juxlos (talk) 08:56, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 13:48, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 May 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) SITH (talk) 11:05, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]



Pokémon: Detective PikachuPokémon Detective Pikachu – Colon is entirely a Wikipedia addition. Official media, IMDB, Warner Bros, etc all do not use colon, even when referring to the movie in a sentence. Manual of Style should not get in the way of basically all sources. Juxlos (talk) 20:10, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note The sources cited above actually don't call the film by the proposed title, but rather write "Pokemon" in all caps. This appears to be a stylistic "colon substitute". Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until release. We're barely a week away from the film's American release, and sources may not solidify for quite a while. This isn't really the right time to make such a move request. ONR (talk) 23:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Addition: I've taken a look at a larger version of the poster (currently used on the infobox) on IGN. The credits block at the bottom uses "POKÉMON DETECTIVE PIKACHU" without a colon. It looks to me that the colon-free title is the official one. (Side note regarding one of the below votes: writing "OPPOSE" in all caps does not make one's vote any more prominent or of a higher status than anyone else's.) –WPA (talk) 18:25, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • With the movie having had official media for months now, it's beyond reasonable doubt that he official media does not have colons. And "movie releasing soon" is a pretty moot point - accuracy doesn't care for timing. Juxlos (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • The text billing in the poster is always the same as film credits and the billing does not have a colon. It's time to move it. The title does not make any less sense without the colon and even if it did it's not up to Wikipedia.
Collapsed duplicate vote
  • Support movie to Pokémon Detective Pikachu with NO colon. Why are people having such a hard time grasping this? All you have to do is look at the credits at the bottom of the poster. It's not that hard. Move the article and the text within the article! I can't do it because I haven't edited 500+ things. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Sullivan 1997 (talk • contribs) 21:51, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: I responded to what you wrote without looking into your edit history, assuming you were a new editor making a rookie mistake and adhering to WP:BITE, but then I noticed you had more than 10K edits going back to 2017. I'm frankly shocked to see such an experienced user making simple editing mistakes like this: how can you possibly defend interpreting this source as supporting your proposed title? The only place on that cite where I can find it using the title in running text as opposed to the logo is here, where it consistently writes the title as "POKÉMON Detective Pikachu", clearly distinguishing between the "supertitle" and main title in a house style comparative to our colon. Hijiri 88 (やや) 12:49, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please examine IMDb source, etc. Other editors seem to agree to my viewpoint in this case. Juxlos (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Careless drive-by !votes that (incorrectly) took "AGF" as implying they had to trust that your sources say what you said they do are inherently less at fault than you for misleading them. And you are digging yourself even deeper by citing WP:IMDB without apparently a hint of irony. Hijiri 88 (やや) 13:26, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You are welcome to try and convince said "drive-by !votes" that the sources use a colon despite the references of the article itself having more Pokémon Detective Pikachu than Pokémon: Detective Pikachu. If we go by source count, the article would be called Detective Pikachu (film). And please refrain from personal attacks. Juxlos (talk) 13:42, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but the majority of our present sources appear to prefer "Detective Pikachu", without the "Pokemon". Hijiri 88 (やや) 00:26, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either the move to no colon but more so to move article to Detective Pikachu (film), per WP:COMMONNAME. TropicAces (talk) 21:08, 7 May 2019 (UTC)tropicAces[reply]
  • Note This just occurred to me now, but neither the current title nor the (nonsense) main proposed title disambiguate this topic from Detective Pikachu, which sure has been called "Pokemon: Detective Pikachu" in a wide variety of contexts; indeed it's probably simply called "Pokemon" by whoever's playing it at any given time and not talking to someone who knows Pokemon but doesn't know which game they are playing, similar to the scenario described here. The only reason I don't think the same is true of "Pokemon Detective Pikachu" is that that's a misreading of the logo for the film, and no one actually even calls the film that in speech, but since it is a misreading of the same title as "Pokemon: Detective Pikachu" it's obviously just as ambiguous as the current title. Hijiri 88 (やや) 05:09, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support move to Pokémon Detective Pikachu. The billing block on the poster has no colon, and the only other instance I can think of where it sounds like a colon should be there is with Star Trek Generations, which also doesn't have a colon in the title of the article. Detective Pikachu (film) is technically the WP:COMMONNAME, but there are plenty of films that have colloquially shortened titles, but it wouldn't make sense to make their articles Infinity War or Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. It's also not uncommon for film adaptations to include the series title as a series title, and the name for the original work as a subtitle (e.g. The Two TowersThe Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers or Days of Future PastX-Men: Days of Future Past), which also works as a WP:natural disambiguation. We also need not wait for the movie to come out and it wouldn't help if we did. Films that do have colons in the title rarely include said colons in the on-screen titles any more than they would on the big stylized text on the poster. 2600:8800:2E80:1146:8CBD:2E8:19C4:6F05 (talk) 08:34, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
the only other instance I can think of This is an old joke among Trekkies, that "Star Trek Insurrection" is rebelling against the franchise and "Star Trek Nemesis" is the enemy of the franchise; the fact that the IP ignored those two closely related examples is telling -- this is either a troll just having a laugh at the expense of our encyclopedia, or a virulent POV-pusher willfully ignoring the evidence that is right in front of them, that reliable secondary sources using a colon to separate the title from the subtitle are more important for our purposes than the logo used on the poster. Also, Star Trek: The Next Generation is probably the single most prominent example of a similar case, although if we take the logic employed by the above IP and most of the other editors supporting the move as proposed we really should be moving Star Wars: The Last Jedi to Star The Last Jedi Wars -- not only does that film's poster lack a colon, but the order of the words is wrong! (Yeah, I know it's in the billing block). Hijiri 88 (やや) 10:21, 9 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Mixed reviews

I wouldn't consider the film getting mixed reviews if it has a 74% on Rotten Tomatoes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.255.153.190 (talk) 18:57, May 3, 2019 (UTC)

Metacritic indicates that the film received "mixed or average reviews". Sebastian James (talk) 07:45, 4 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
plus the accompanying source from THR says mixed response. RT isn't the end all-be all. TropicAces (talk) 21:27, 4 May 2019 (UTC)tropicAces[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 May 2019

I think it should be added that this is the highest rated film based on a video game on Rotten Tomatoes and the first to get a "Fresh" rating. Hfmbears (talk) 00:50, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Breawycker (talk to me!) 04:26, 5 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 May 2019

2400:2411:87A2:9200:6029:D842:AF30:F71B (talk) 07:09, 6 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Summary of a plot

Mewtwo is captured and held in a science facility where they use his DNA to make a drug called R that makes Pokémon go berserk.

Harry, Tim's dad, was trying to rescue Mewtwo from this facility but Mewtwo escapes from the lab, flying over a highway and shooting a psychic blast at Harry but he merged with Pikachu.

Tim and his friend who we never see again are in a forest trying to catch a Cubone. The Cubone escapes, and then Tim gets a call from the Ryme City Police Department saying his dad has died.

He goes to Ryme City, a city where there are no Pokéballs or Pokémon battles and people and Pokémon live in harmony. He goes to the police station to get the details on his dad's death and then he goes to his dad's apartment to try to clean up some things. On his way up to the apartment he meets a reporter girl, Lucy.

There he finds a strange vial full of purple gas, and it sprays everywhere making some Aipoms outside go crazy. He runs into Pikachu in the scene you saw in the trailer, and he learns that he can understand Pikachu and no one else can. He assumes it's because of exposure to the purple gas.

Then the Aipoms break through the window and cause a lot of chaos. They escape and then go to a coffee bar to discuss what's going to happen next. Pikachu decides that Tim's dad probably isn't actually dead, so they start to look for him.

They decide to trace down the source of R, the purple drug that made the Aipoms go crazy. They go to Lucy's office where she had been investigating the source of R on her own, and they go to an underground Pokémon fighting league.

There Pikachu fights a Charizard that's hopped up on R, and just barely escape. They learn about the facility where R was produced and decide to investigate.

There they learn that the founder of the city was using Mewtwo's DNA to produce R with the goal of using Mewtwo's body as his own. The founder sprays R all over a giant parade and puts humans in Pokémon's bodies to give them a new life or something.

Tim manages to take the brain transfer helmet off of the founder and then Mewtwo fixes everything.

Mewtwo is revealed to have saved Tim's dad by putting him in Pikachu's body and in the very end Ryan Reynolds is there and gives him a train ticket to go back to the town he's from, and Tim decides to stay with his dad and become a detective.


Hi person, I'm gonna rewrite this and then post it ok? Faromics (talk) 14:00, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • I think the part about Mewtwo in the very first sentence is wrong. Wasn't he created in that lab, rather than captured? Or am I misremembering things?
MEwtwo was made and captured by Giovanni and Team Rocket.

Where’s my money, Faromics?

 Note: Closing request. NiciVampireHeart 12:10, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

70% on RT

NOT 69% please fix

Sorry, but making edit requests like this one regarding information that is changing rapidly is unlikely to do any good, as before anyone sees it the information will be out of date. It's at 66% at the moment. Hijiri 88 (やや) 03:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

“and represents a separate continuity from the mainline video games and anime series.”

Um...Wrong https://comicbook.com/anime/2019/05/10/detective-pikachu-takes-place-in-anime-universe-says-writers-/ Someone add this in, please.

disinformation in latest edit

The latest edit removed the mentions that the movie is the best rated videogame-based movie~under the excuse that ratings have dropped, but even ignoring that they're still high, that original statement is STILL truth as its still above all other videogame based movie ratings by a FAIR marging. I don't know what motivated that misinformation spreading, but could someone undo it and restore the original version as long as the statement still holds truth? JackJusticeTruth (talk) 00:45, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also seems like the rating went up a bit for quite a while now, can someone update it, the user scores and remove the seemingly but hopefully not misinformation/vandalism done by User:JDDJS? JackJusticeTruth (talk) 00:49, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Box office data reporting

The current $20M overseas box office data excludes Mainland China, which the article does not mention. Rethliopuks (talk) 10:28, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think we should wait till Box Office Mojo update everything on their website.Timur9008 (talk) 17:02, 11 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 May 2019

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=detectivepikachu.htm

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. DannyS712 (talk) 21:39, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

Box office

As of May 12, 2019, Pokémon Detective Pikachu has grossed $58 million in the United States and Canada, and $112.4 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $170.4 million, against a production budget of $150 million.[1]

Actual domestic numbers are in. It actually grossed lower than its projection

As of May 12, 2019, Pokémon Detective Pikachu has grossed $54.37 million in the United States and Canada, and $112.4 million in other territories, for a worldwide total of $166.8 million, against a production budget of $150 million.[2] 2601:447:4101:5780:80C9:442E:B03F:42E0 (talk) 21:31, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 May 2019

In the United States and Canada, the film was released alongside Tolkien, Poms and The Hustle, and was projected to gross $50–70 million from 4,202 theaters,[3][4] although the studio was estimating a lower $40 million debut.[5] The film made $20.7 million on its first day, including $5.7 million from Thursday night previews, both the most ever for a film based on a video game.[6] It went on to debut to $58 million, the best opening ever for a video game film, and finished second behind holdover Avengers: Endgame,[7][8] though Detective Pikachu had a higher per-theater average ($13,803 to $13,425).[9]

Please update the article by including the actual box office figures. 54.4 million is good enough of an estimate for me. I have also added more details concerning projections. Please include them too. Please also include the decline in the average per screening numbers as well.


In the United States and Canada, the film was released alongside Tolkien, Poms and The Hustle, and was projected to gross $50–70 million from 4,202 theaters,[10][4] although the studio was estimating a lower $40 million debut.[11] Following the opening day, it was projected to make at $55-60 million.[12][13] The film made $20.6 million on its first day,[14] including $5.7 million from Thursday night previews, both the most ever for a film based on a video game.[15] It went on to debut to $54.4 million,[1] the best opening ever for a video game film, and finished second behind holdover Avengers: Endgame,[7][16] Actual numbers showed that Detective Pikachu had a lower per-theater average ($12,938 to $13,578).[17] 2601:447:4101:5780:80C9:442E:B03F:42E0 (talk) 21:40, 13 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done WikiVirusC(talk) 17:28, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request - new plot summary

684 word count according to Microsoft Word:


In the Pokémon universe, Tim Goodman is a 21-year-old insurance salesman who gave up his dream of being a Pokémon trainer following the death of his mother and becoming estranged from his father. Harry is contacted by the police and told his father has died in a car crash in Ryme City.

Harry travels to Ryme City, a city where humans and Pokémon live together and catching and battling Pokémon is outlawed in favor of peaceful co-existence. While looking through his father's apartment, Harry encounters a deerstalker-clad Pikachu that is able to talk to Harry and be understood by him. They are attacked by a party of Aipom[a] under the influence of a purple gas that Tim accidentally released, but escape. At a café, Pikachu explains he has amnesia and his only clue to his identity are Harry's name and address on his hat, leading him to believe he was Harry's partner. Because Pikachu survived the car crash, he surmises Harry also survived.

Tim shows the vial the gas came in to an aspiring journalist, Lucy Stevens, and she directs him to Ryme Wharf. They meet an informant of Harry's, a Mr. Mime, who directs them to an illegal Pokémon battle arena. The arena's owner Sebastian recognizes Pikachu, who had injured his Charizard in a previous battle, and demands a rematch. Sebastian doses Charizard with the purple gas, stirring it into a violent rage, and Pikachu is unable to summon its electrical powers to fight back. While attempting to save Pikachu, Tim knocks Sebastian over, breaking several vials of gas in his clothing that send the Pokémon in the arena into a frenzy. The arena is raided by the police and lieutenant Hideo Yoshida shows Tim security camera footage of Harry's crash to convince him Harry could not have survived.

Tim and Pikachu are taken to see Howard Clifford, the founder of Ryme City who believes living with Pokémon is beneficial to his ailing condition. Howard shows Tim a holographic recreation of the car crash, revealing Harry survived and was captured by Mewtwo, who erased Pikachu's memory. Howard warns Tim that his son Roger is behind the gas, "R", and tells him he can find his father is he finds Mewtwo. Tim and Pikachu recruit Lucy and travel to the lab facility Harry was investigating, which had been experimenting on Mewtwo and synthesized R from its genes. They are attacked by genetically enhanced Pokémon created at the lab, and Pikachu is gravely injured in the escape. Tim manages to communicate to a Bulbasaur they need help, and the Bulbasaur takes Tim to a clearing where they meet Mewtwo. Mewtwo heals Pikachu, but before it can reveal its intensions it is captured by Roger. Regaining his memory of helping Mewtwo escape, Pikachu believes he had betrayed Harry and leaves while Tim returns to Ryme City.

Pikachu comes across the area where Harry crashed and finds evidence that it was the Greninja, not Mewtwo, who attacked Harry. In Ryme City, Howard reveals Mewtwo to Tim and takes control of its body. Howard explains that Mewtwo can fuse humans and Pokémon, allowing humans to evolve as Pokémon can, but this can only be done if the Pokémon's mind is in a confused state, thus the need for the R gas. Howard releases R across the city and uses Mewtwo's powers to begin fusing humans with their Pokémon. Pikachu arrives and summons his electricity powers to battle Mewtwo. Tim meanwhile fights Howard's bodyguard, a Ditto who had been impersonating Roger; with help from the real Roger, Tim subdues Ditto and frees Mewtwo from Howard's control.

Mewtwo restores the city inhabitants to normal, Howard is arrested, and Roger hires Lucy as a full-time reporter. Mewtwo reveals that Harry is actually Pikachu - the two helped Mewtwo escape and Mewtwo fused them to save Harry's life after the Greninja attacked, the experience erasing their memories. Mewtwo separates the two and Harry reunites with Tim in his human body, and Tim decides to stay in Ryme City to learn how to become a detective and spend time with Harry and Pikachu.


DrakeyC (talk) 04:50, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The film made only made $20.6 million on its opening day in the US and Canada

Please include the actual numbers, as noted on Box Office Mojo[19]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 May 2019

Add the when movie was/gonna be released in other countries. 31.0.124.125 (talk) 15:07, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. WikiVirusC(talk) 17:29, 14 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request: Pikachu dancing is a reference to a comedy sketch

Right before the section in "Marketing" where it talks about Ryan aiding in the prank, there should probably be a sentence or two talking about how the dance Pikachu is doing is a reference to a Key and Peele sketch called "Aerobics Meltdown." [20]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 May 2019

Two of the writers, Dan Hernandez and Benji Samit, now have their own wikipedia entries, so brackets should be added to link to them from this article. Benji2000 (talk) 07:54, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Added for now, we will see if those articles stay up or end up at afd. WikiVirusC(talk) 10:21, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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