THERE ARE MANY INCONSISTENCIES SURROUNDING GEORGE'S DEATH. THE L.A. POLICE AND CHIEF BILL PARKER ONLY WANTED TO HAVE THIS CASE CLOSED ASAP AND MAKE IT LOOK A SUICIDE. THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN HOLLYW0OD WHO PREFER IT LIKE THIS TO THIS DAY. GEORGE WAS NOT PROPERLY EXAMINED, HANDS WERE WASHED OF POSSIBLE GUN RESIDUE, NO REAL INVESTIGATION TOOK PLACE AND NO AUTOPSY WAS PERFORMED, AS DEMANDED BY COUNTY'S LAW, ESPECIALLY IN HIGH PROFILE MURDERS. ONLY LATER AFTER INSISTENCE OF HIS MOTHER AND SHE PAID FOR IT. THEREFORE AND THIS, HIS OFFICIAL DEATH CERTIFICATE DESERVES CHANGES. FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES

Please be aware that it is not the purpose of Wikiepdia to right the world's wrongs. We're only here

User:Vesa a.k.a. User:Projects (among others) can't even get the air dates right, and the

To all the vandals and so called just administrators, the air dates are minor problems, the facts and details surrounding Reeves suicided are not being written well enough, as everybody else is reporting, the fact that Reeves was to fight Moore next day, is also being reverted, this is pure vandalism. As far as spelling goes by Vesa or Projects or whoever, well, if you keep on repeating yourself and have no time, some spelling errors might occur, but it's not the spelling that counts but content which is being vandalised by so called just users and administrators of this so called just wikipedia. And it is obvious wahkeenah has some personal interest in this, proof: All over internet we have Reeves' death explained in detail and possible people involved, but over here he is taking everything down, the idiotic administratotors are reversing it, thus making themselves look stupid and ignorant by not realizing the historical facts.

DID YOU SAY WE ARE NOT CARING, O NO, I AM DOING THIS BECAUSE I CARE AND YOU DO NOT, OK, IF I HAVE PERSONAL OPINION, LET ME KNOW, BUT I TRIED MY BEST TO MAKE THIS AS NEUTRAL AS POSSIBLE AND ACCORDING TO WHAT HAS BEEN KNOWN AND TALKED ABOUT, GROW UP!

We are not asserting, we are stating and saying that it is possible he was murdered, and you yourself wrote that, ok AND ALSO THE SUICIDE IS ALSO NOT FACTUAL, BECAUSE POLICE, L.A. DID NOT FOLLOW PROCEDURES TO PROPERLY CALL THIS A SUICIDE, SO GROW UP... WHATEVER WAS NOT NEUTRAL YOU DID NOT POINT OUT, NOW SITE IS BLOCKED, AND YOUR STORY IS FULL OF MISTAKES, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE MORE IS WRITTEN HERE, AT LEAST... BECAUSE GEORGE WAS ALLEGEDLY MURDERED BY EDDIE MANNIX AND TONI MANNIX AND MOST LIKELY AND AT ANY RATE IT WAS NOT SUICIDE, IT WAS MURDER OT RUSSIAL ROULETTE ACCIDENT. WHAT IS TRUTH ? IT CHANGES WITH TIME AND NEUTRALITY IN YOUR OPINION ONLY BELONGS IN YOUR WORLD BOY. - 66.99.0.198 13:59, 7 January 2006

Looks like your Caps Lock key got stuck. You might want to check that. -- Jmabel | Talk 19:22, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you say obsessed? Dyslexic agnostic 21:25, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, my fellow thespian, that has been explained before. Changing bios all the time, takes time and with 100wpm, you must make mistakes. Now...

http://geocities.com/georgereevesproject/SupermansMother.pdf About Reeves' mother and her search for justice, which you obstructed on this site, you shameful animals...

I'd like to point out a few things, it's good they are remembering George, unlike ignorant users of this site who can not come on some agreement, but the movie is only a flashback and no real George or (I could be wrong, but I doubt it) clips, voice has been used, it does not solve the problem, only explains some mystery,so I would not recommend the movie!

• No, it's not your typing speed, you just keep pasting the same stuff in again. If you can't be bothered to write correctly, you have no business writing here at all. Wahkeenah 00:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply No, it was reverted, not just pasted, however in the beginning, there were few mistakes, but not in the later postings, spelling was correct, then again, you have no place here, because you are probably one of the family members who was invloved in the murder anyways and now you want to let it be like it was, shame on you... User:66.99.0.131 18:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC) (sockpuppets include User:Projects, User:Vesa and other now-blocked accounts).[reply]

• I was 8 when my hero died. You're rubbing salt in that wound. Lay off. >:( Wahkeenah 07:20, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible then, you are connected via family members ? AFter all, THE FIGHT WITH ARCHIE MOORE, TWO ROUNDS, JUNE 18TH, WHERE IS IT, DELETED, INVESTIGATION BY POLICE, ALSO GONE, HIS HANDS WASHED, ALL THOSE THINGS, WE POSTED AND YOU ERASED, CALL YOURSELF JUST, HECK NO~! NOT AT ALL, YOU AND THE REST, BUT THIS IS NOT OVER AT ALL...

"Is it possible then" that the above is trolling, pure and simple? -- Jmabel | Talk 21:12, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reply

Is it possible user Jmabel is trolling here some more and blabbing? User:64.107.1.197 23:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC) (sockpuppets include User:Projects, User:Vesa and other now-blocked accounts).[reply]

"Is it possible" that the above is a continuation of said trolling? I think one look at my contributions list and that of User:64.107.1.197 will settle the matter. -- Jmabel | Talk 07:48, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't start discussing this rather than reverting I will protect this page. [[User:DJ Clayworth|DJ Clayworth]] 23:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

• And you don't seem to understand that (1) you're pushing a point of view, which is against wiki rules and (2) even if your "facts" were verifiably true, which they are not, your English usage is unacceptably inferior. Your defense that you haven't had "time" to write the article in proper English is no excuse. Wahkeenah 00:23, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The only point of view, is yours here, everything that was put here, it has been known and it is not personal opininon, if personal opinion becomes widely popular, then how can you call it personal, does it come from one person? GROW UP!

Well, at least this bio will be on this page, CORRECT!

George Bessolo Reeves (born George Keefer Brewer to Don Brewer and Helen Lescher) (January 6, 1914 – June 16, 1959) was an American actor, best known for playing the role of Superman on television in the 1950s.

Reeves film career began in 1939. He was featured in minor roles, one being as one of Vivian Leigh's beaus in the initial scene of Gone With the Wind. In 1942 he won acclaim for his part in So Proudly We Hail.

Military service then interupted his career. Reeves enlisted in the United States Army Air Corps and appeared in war training films. Reeves found leading parts lacking after the war and at one point was forced to earn a living digging septic systems. (after the end of Superman tv show)

Reeves, offered the role of Superman in a television series, was reluctant at first to take the role. Like many actors, he considered television to be unimportant and thought that few would see his work. He was astonished when he became a national celebrity. He became so well known that he was often forced to do personal appearances as Superman. This was always embarrassing for the actor because he pointed out that many children would often test his super powers by physically assaulting him. In one instance, a youngster came up to him with a loaded gun and said that he was going to shoot bullets off Superman's chest!

Reeves first appeared as the Superman character in 1951 in a theatrical feature called Superman and the Mole Men. It was effectively a pilot for the TV series, whose regular episodes began filming soon after, during 1951 and 1952. That film was edited down to a two-part episode for the TV series, retitled The Unknown People. The original film was seldom seen after its initial release, but it is on the DVD of the first season which was released in the fall of 2005.

The Superman TV series was broadcast in first-run from the fall of 1951 through the spring of 1958, a total of 104 episodes. In addition, Reeves appeared as Superman in a Goverment short film, entitled either "Stamp Day for Superman" or "Superman's Stamp Day" (title unclear). In this, Superman's job was to catch some crooks and tell kids why they should invest in government bonds. Reeves also appeared as Superman in an episode of "I Love Lucy" in 1956.

After the series went off the air, Reeves found himself so typecast as Superman that it was difficult for him find other roles and this was said to have deeply saddened him. One example sometimes cited is that he was upset when his scenes in the classic film [[From Here To Eternity]] were all cut after a preview audience kept yelling "Superman!" whenever he appeared. While the last part of that statement is apparently true, that film was released in 1953, when Reeves was still in his early days as the Superman character. Whether the original theatrical release of the film included those scenes, the DVD release does include Reeves' brief appearance as a former lover of the Deborah Kerr character.

In the early morning hours of June 16 1959, three days before a planned wedding to Lenore Lemmon, Reeves went to bed after a long night with guests. Shortly thereafter, a shot rang out, and he was found dead in his bedroom with a gunshot wound to the head. An official inquiry concluded that the death was suicide. His disbelieving mother conducted an investigation of her own, which was inconclusive.

With suicide the official verdict, much speculation resulted as to whether it was because of his failed career. It was also noted that he had suffered a concussion in an auto accident shortly before that event, leading some to suspect that his mental health had been compromised. These facts are recounted in Gary Grossman's 1976 book, Superman: Serial to Cereal. At that time, suicide was the predominant presumed cause of death, and various reasons were cited to justify or explain it.

In recent years, there have been questions raised again as to whether Reeves' death was really a suicide, or whether it was a murder covered up Hollywood insiders, similar to the claims about suspicious deaths of other Hollywood notables such as Thelma Todd and Paul Bern. The 1996 book, Hollywood Kryptonite, by Sam Kashner and Nancy Schoenberger, discusses the issues, the doubts by friends and relatives, the forensic evidence as to whether suicide was even physically possible, whether the shooting was properly investigated by police, and alternative theories.

The book makes an interesting argument for Reeves having been the target of a "hit" due to having spurned a long-time lover with mob connections. The hypothesis is that the aforementioned car accident was also an attempted hit. There is no question that Reeves' circle of friends included some unsavory characters. There are groups trying to change the death certificate, not reopen the case. However, the allegations and unanswered questions are unlikely ever to be resolved, due to the assage of time and the deaths of apparently everyone who might know the truth. There are many doubters, it is very well possible he was murdered by his former lover Toni. Nobody was accused of anything since people like Toni Mannix and Eddie Mannix were very powerful. There is evidence they wanted to call this death suicide immediately. Coroner did not even check for gun residue on Reeves hands, they were washed of any evidence. Assuming If George lived to see June 17th, he had a 2 round scheduled exhibition match with light heavyweight champion of he world Archie Moore. Reeves was a boxing fan and it's hard to conceive he'd kill himself before his big day in the ring. George Reeves was a golden gloves champion in his youth, with undefeated record. (record uncertain) Suicide a day before the big match which be talked about for a long time ?

On Saturday, February 11 2005 at the WonderCon Comic convention, Noel Neill, aka Lois Lane of the Superman TV series, referred to the studio cover-up of Reeves death as a suicide. She said there were several bullet holes in Reeves' bedroom, a circumstance that suggests murder more than suicide. She mentioned friends who saw the bullet holes and a conversation with a contractor who was hired to patch them up. Neill is about to come out with her own book called "Truth, Justice and the American Way," and may have been dropping teasers to promote sales.

• What's your source for Noel Neill's alleged statement? Wahkeenah 17:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because of the similar surnames, people sometimes surmise that George Reeves is related to Christopher Reeve, an actor who would later portray Superman on the big screen. It should be noted that the two are not related, as the last names differ, and the similarity is merely coincidental. Nor is there any relation between him and Steve Reeves, the actor/bodybuilder from the same era; nor any known relation to a character actor named Richard Reeves a.k.a. Dick Reeves, who looked nothing like George, but happened to appear in several "Superman" episodes. There was G. R. Explorer, politican in the Texas House of representatives, boxing promoter in 1900, escaped prisoner and a few others...

Nobody is contributing to disproove or approve the above, again shows the ignorance of people who revert the incorrect bio..

Maybe everyone is busy... Dyslexic agnostic 20:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

THIS SHOULD BE THE CORRECT BIO OF GEORGE REEVES - unsigned by User:134.58.253.114.

sounds a little "paranoid conspiracy"ish... how do you know the above? (and why don't you ever sign your entries with ~~~~ (to identify which of two sockpuppets you are using each time)? - Dyslexic agnostic 06:25, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That user is apparently a native of Croatia, as evidenced by his obsession with, and similar comments and vandalism of, the Franjo Tuđman article. This accounts for his poor Slavic-sounding English usage which disqualifies him from writing in the Reeves article even if his point-of-view were provable, which it is not. He also has more than two sockpuppets, all of which have been blocked, so various a-none IP's are all he can use. Wahkeenah 09:56, 9 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No dumb moran, I am from England. Now, this site It is blocked, but at least here the bio is correct, you are nothing but a vandal and correction I am not from Croatia, you are, since you english is pathetic many times, the bio you wrote on Reeves makes no sense at all and it's missing many facts, once it becomes available, I am back! So now, not too many people can edit, including you. But for this, you are not forgiven... And as long as it takes, I am here to stay to show the truth. Which you Mr. English eloquent guy do not know beans about...

The above, George Reeves was born on January 5th, as of today, I dont know what is your problem, to change it to January 6th? For example... http://findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=1284 It says many things, things I mentioned and you kept on reverting, so shame on u all!