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==Religion?== |
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I thought I heard someone where that Christopher Lee was Roman Catholic, but I found no reference to it here (the closet we get is to his interest in occult books). My second guess would be Anglican, or maybe he's not particularly religious (or keeps it to himself). A little clarity would be nice though. |
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==Jinnah ref== |
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I have the source where Lee referred to Jinnah being his most important work. But I don't know how to add them to the reference list...could anyone do that for me please? |
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http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=12656 |
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3733894.stm |
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==Video game ref== |
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[http://eagames.co.uk/products.view.asp?id=387 This] confirms that Christopher Lee voiced Scaramanga in the video game Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, but unfortunately I can't figure out how to do a reference. [[User:David L Rattigan]] 20:58 02 May 2006 GMT |
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:[[WP:Footnotes]] - [[User:Motor|Motor]] ([[User talk:Motor|talk)]] 20:40, 2 May 2006 (UTC) |
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::Cheers. I did look at that page before, but couldn't quite get the hang of it. Much easier to look at the code for what you did and just learn that way! [[User:David L Rattigan]] 21:55 2 May 2006 GMT |
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==Trivia== |
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''Lee is a direct lineal descendent of Charlemagne through his mother's side.'' |
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Is there a source for this? christopherleeweb.com [http://www.christopherleeweb.com] states that the Carandini family ''is believed to have had close connections with the Emperor Charlemagne'' instead of claiming descendance. |
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Anon. 01:14, 19 December 2005 (UTC) |
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''Lee served in the military during World War II, where he acquired the knowledge of the noise a person makes when stabbed in the back. He put this to use when filming The Lord of the Rings, as can be seen on the Extended Edition DVD of The Return of the King.'' |
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Could we have a source for this? It seems like a macabre joke. |
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[[User:Mihoshi|Mihoshi]] 14:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC) |
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:It isn't a joke - Peter Jackson mentions it in the commentary, reminiscing about the filming of a particular scene where Lee, an ex-secret service man adds the benefit of his experiences. [[User:Sheridan|sheridan]] 17:42, 2005 May 23 (UTC) |
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::Cool. Thanks for clearing that up---[[User:Mihoshi|Mihoshi]] 20:45, 31 May 2005 (UTC) |
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::I moved this bit of trivia to the Trivia section, but as a matter of fact I would like remove it as irrelevant. While it makes a good anecdote in the context of the LOTR extras (so I've understood, haven't seen them), it really is rather non-surprising that someone who has served in close combat operations has knowledge of what it looks and sounds like when someone is killed. I cannot come up with arguments for keeping it, and if there are no objections, I'll remove it in a while. [[User:194.157.147.48|194.157.147.48]] 00:14, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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:::Agreed, and I've taken the liberty of removing it myself. It was one of the more entertaining parts of the DVD, but it doesn't really add much to an encyclopaedia article. --[[User:Calair|Calair]] 10:37, 23 July 2006 (UTC) |
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" He volunteered to fight for the Finnish forces during the Winter War against the Soviet Union in 1939," |
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This is another point for which I would like to have a source. I have a list of all the volunteers and his name does not appear on the list. I also have a list of those Britons who volunteered but did not actually arrive to to Finland. Lee's name is not on that list either. Furthermore I would think that if such a famous person would have fought with the Finns agains the Soviets, everybody in Finland would known about it. This is not the case. --[[User:Chino|Chino]] 02:37, 26 July 2005 (UTC) |
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:The statement is a bit of an exaggeration, but the source is his autobigraphy- he was quite young and apparently paid his own third class passage with some friends, showed up, and they weren't quite sure what to do with him so sent him somewhere away from any fighting. He went home, apparently, after a few weeks. This is from memory, I'll look it up when I find the book again. -- [[User:Yrfeloran|Yrfeloran]] 15 November 2005 |
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the article didnt mention tha lee made the voice intro on the manowar song king of kings |
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===Cinema beheadings and on screen deaths=== |
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Christopher Lee is notable for the number of times he had died on screen portraying his character. Although I do not have an accurate count of his final disposition in all of his films. I believe he has been beheaded while portraying Dracula, Fu Manchu and Count Dooku among other characters. Does anyone have any more information on this? [[User:Group29|Group29]] 18:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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== Tribute from The Guardian == |
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''When a man is 6ft 5in tall, descended from Italian aristocracy, educated at an English public school, a brilliant fencer and golfer, loves opera, speaks French, German, Spanish and Italian, and can "get along" in Swedish, Russian and Greek, you know he is destined for evil.'' |
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— Leo Benedictus, [[The Guardian]] 24 June 2005 [[http://film.guardian.co.uk/features/featurepages/0,4120,1512982,00.html]] |
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== Robert E. Lee == |
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Someone on imdb says that Christopher Lee is related to Civil War General Robert E. Lee. Despite the similar last time, I've never heard of this. I didn't think he had any relatives, or in particular any ancestors, who were American, as all of Robert E. Lee's descendants have been. In particular, two of General Lee's descendants are Harper Lee and Robert Duvall. The imdb poster also said that, in numerous interviews, Lee said that he and Duvall were cousins. Has anyone else ever read this?([[User:Kenobifan|Kenobifan]] 04:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)) |
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*See [[Talk:Harper Lee]] for a refutation of the widely-circulated claim about her kinship (circulated by, among others, the Encyclopedia Britannica): "General Robert E. Lee has very few descendants, considering that he had seven children. None of his daughters married and only two of his sons had children." ([http://www.stratfordhall.org/reltree.html family tree])'' --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 00:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC) |
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::Strangely enough there does seem to be some resemblance between Christopher Lee and [[Robert E Lee]]'s family. Christopher Lee's family were also the same class, upper middle-gentry and served as officers in the military. Lee's grandfather was Ellis Lee, an army Colonel, and his father was a Henry Lee jun. of [[Finsbury]] Square, [[London]] who was presumably son of another Henry Lee [[User:Arniep|Arniep]] 00:19, 3 February 2006 (UTC) |
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::::Well, obviously we can't rely on original research here. Shall we look for an authoritative source? --[[User:Dystopos|Dystopos]] 00:49, 3 February 2006 (UTC) |
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:::::There are a few biographies of Lee that might contain some more info on his family, I'll see if I can order them through my library. There is also a book on the Lee family of Virginia: ''Edmund Jennings Lee, Lee of Virginia 1642-1892, (1895; reprinted., Baltimore, 1983)'' which might mention an English branch. [[User:Arniep|Arniep]] 01:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC) |
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== Photo == |
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Since Lee is most closely associated with playing Dracula in the Hammer movies, shouldn't there be a picture of him in the role?[[User:Willerror|Willerror]] 21:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC) |
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== Languages and army == |
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Apparently he speaks several languages, specifically French and German but can get by with the basics in another few European languages. Moreover, he did eventually end up in the army and has spoken more than once in general terms about being in combat. His advice, btw, is don't go into combat! |
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[[User:Korporaal1|Korporaal1]] ([[User talk:Korporaal1|talk]]) 11:16, 3 November 2009 (UTC) The Arrse website, when looking for celebrities with military backgrounds mentioned that Lee was an intelligence officer with the [[LRDG]] and later with [[SOE]]. Are there any sources for this? |
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:The article says "all details of actions undertaken by members of the SOE are still classified", but this isn't the case. A mountain of SOE documents (all of them, for all I know) have long been declassified. Wikipedia actually has an article listing all members, with the exploits of several of them. Some SOE films have even made it to Youtube, so I really do not know who says "all details of actions undertaken by members of the SOE are still classified", and by what authority. --[[User:Tsuka|Tsuka]] ([[User talk:Tsuka|talk]]) 21:36, 7 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::He says this in his autobiography. I think it's dubious too. It is just about possible that there are missions (politically sensitive assassinations of 'allies'?) that are still secret... [[User:Lovingboth|Lovingboth]] ([[User talk:Lovingboth|talk]]) 11:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC) |
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==External links== |
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I just chopped out a lot of unnecessary external links and sorted out a few references while converting it to the new notes system. I added the fact template to many of the claims too. It's worth noting too, that the Tiscali biography calls his father Jeffrey, this article calls him Geoffrey. The Carandini pedigree calls him Geoffrey too... so maybe that raises some concerns about the accuracy of the Tiscali biog. Also, IMO, the Trivia section is way too long. It is a mix of stuff that should be in the article body, irrelevancies, and in places it strays into being a filmography. Addition: if anyone would like to add references to replace the fact templates, see: [[Wikipedia:Footnotes]] for instructions on the new system. - [[User:Motor|Motor]] ([[User talk:Motor|talk)]] 01:43, 26 April 2006 (UTC) |
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:The Tiscali bios are generally pretty good, I don't think a small spelling mistake is an indication of general inaccuracy. Jeffrey is the spelling that is usually found on most other bios (I only found that it was Geoffrey as I traced his ancestry). [[User:Arniep|Arniep]] 02:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC) |
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<br />I have a question about reference link [25]: I followed the link but I could find no relevance on that page as to what it was referencing. The statement appears at the end of his "Personal Life" section, stating: "Lee is a vocal supporter of the British Conservative Party". However, the link leads to a Q&A with Christopher Lee in a '''liberal''' London Newspaper, with no reference at all to anything conservative. Can anybody find a better link to support that section of the article, or should it be deleted, or what? (This is my first post on Wikipedia. If I did something wrong, please tell me. Thank you) [[User:Jackhatte|Jackhatte]] ([[User talk:Jackhatte|talk]]) 05:16, 23 June 2009 (UTC) |
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== Family? == |
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Isn't there anything on Christopher Lee's family? Not background, I mean is he a father? Grandfather? I think there needs to be a "Personal Life" section in this article. [[User:Crazy Eddy|Crazy Eddy]] 20:00, 10 August 2006 (UTC) |
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== Making a habit of reading the books once a year == |
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I recall hearing something like this: ''he had once met Tolkien and made a habit of reading the books once a year, making him the Tolkien consultant'' in the interviews on one of the LoTR disks, just forgot which one. Could someone find which one and add the citation into the article? [[User:Comic_master|Comics]] |
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I've seen the behind the scenes videos from the extended version for films 1 and 3, and I think 1 dealt with casting, and I know he said it when he was discussing his casting, while on the set of Isengard (soz if i spelt it wrong). So yh, film one. I'm a bit busy to add it now, but I may do it later, unless anyone else wants to (if you do, please tell us here, so I don't add it when it's already been added. --<span id="Imagine Wizard" class="plainlinks" >[[User:Imagine Wizard|Imagine Wizard]] ([[User talk:Imagine Wizard|talk]] <small>•</small> [[Special:Contributions/Imagine Wizard|contribs]] <small>•</small> [http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/ec/{{urlencode:Imagine Wizard}} <span style="color:#002bb8">count</span>]</span>) <small>[[Pig Latin|Iway amway Imagineway Izardway.]]</small> 15:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC) |
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== Knighthood== |
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The man has to get one soon. |
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Okay, he has that. Let's hope that he gets an honorary Oscar too while he's still around.[[User:WHPratt|WHPratt]] ([[User talk:WHPratt|talk]]) 13:47, 25 September 2009 (UTC) |
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== DiZ? == |
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I know that Christopher plays Ansem, but has anyone thought that perhaps Ansem was MODELLED after Lee? |
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I did take that into consideration, but Mr. Christopher Lee never had blonde hair. |
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i guess this'd be a good place to ask this, does anybody know why christopher lee isn't voicing ansem in kingdom hearts birth by sleep?--[[Special:Contributions/98.18.69.176|98.18.69.176]] ([[User talk:98.18.69.176|talk]]) 00:13, 15 April 2010 (UTC) |
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== POV == |
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This is written like a press release by a Christopher Lee publicist lol |
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== Batman! == |
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This is related moreso towards Hammer than Lee himself, but, has anyone noticed that Dracula in Batman vs. Dracula looks exactly like Christopher Lee in Scars of Dracula and+? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/216.222.238.42|216.222.238.42]] ([[User talk:216.222.238.42|talk]]) 02:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned --> |
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Oh my gosh! I'm not the only person! I noticed that as well! |
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== J.B. Tito== |
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Does anubody know something more about C. Lee`s taking part in the Second World War finishing in Yugoslavia. My unproved information is that he was the bond between UK government and Yugoslav partisans` Supreme command in 1944. Same information is that he speaks Serbo - Croat language well. Thank you. Cheers. [[User:Petronije|Petronije]] 12:22, 13 March 2007 (UTC) |
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*The Yugoslavia bit is noticably skimmed over in his autobiography. That's possibly the time he was in SOE. He has has generally said that he's not going to talk about anything that was secret. [[User:205.201.7.191|205.201.7.191]] 23:04, 17 March 2007 (UTC) |
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== Christopher Lee in the movie "Pope John Paul II" == |
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He played cardinal Wyszyński in the 2005 movie "Pope John Paul II". See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_John_Paul_II_(movie). |
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==Gay?== |
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Quite a few people I know have got wind of a rumour that CL is gay. Does anyone have any evidence pointing one way or t'other? [[User:Alexrushfear|Alexrushfear]] 13:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC) |
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:::As usual, the Gay Lobby desires to inject unfounded rumor and smearing innuendo into an article on a famous person. This is to further their intention to have homosexuality accepted as a normal practice instead of the unnatural, immature danger that it is.[[User:Lestrade|Lestrade]] 20:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Lestrade |
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::::Wow. The question is a rather silly one (unless there are verifiable sources- he's been married for decades), but the response was way out of line. [[User:ChrisStansfield|ChrisStansfield]] <sup>[[Special:Contributions/ChrisStansfield|Contribs]]</sup> 21:08, 3 December 2007 (UTC) |
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No, he is certainly not gay. Although I think he has, in the past, endorsed gay rights. If someone found some quotes relating to his political beliefs, they might want to include them. UserID Browned. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/209.81.103.9|209.81.103.9]] ([[User talk:209.81.103.9|talk]]) 20:14, 29 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:No he isn't and local rumors violate [[WP:OR]]. Also Lestrade, can please stop posting your Homophobic views on talk pages! Some people may get offended! [[User:Freakmighty|FM]] <small>[ [[User_talk:Freakmighty|<span style="color:#000000">talk to me</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Freakmighty|<span style="color:#000000">show contributions</span>]] ]</small> 17:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC) |
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==Lee as Marvolo Gaunt== |
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''Wizard'' magazine nominated Christopher Lee to play [[Marvolo Gaunt]] in the film version of ''[[Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince]]'' Erudil 17:39, 4 August 2007 (UTC) |
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==Links to Film Entries in Wikipedia== |
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I have just finished making a number of minor edits to the CL article, essentially adding links to the films (mainly from the Hammer Era) that have entries in Wikipedia. I assume this is not counter to the intentions of the author or the great man himself. --[[User:Blue Dwarf|Blue Dwarf]] 15:57, 31 August 2007 (UTC) |
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[[User:BetacommandBot|BetacommandBot]] ([[User talk:BetacommandBot|talk]]) 04:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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==Lee's Height== |
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I am not convinced that Lee is really 6ft5 tall. True, he is very tall but I have never seen any official verification of his exact height. I know that he was at lease 6ft4 when he was younger. -- [[User:Ray-Ginsay|Vitus Werdegast]] ([[User talk:Ray-Ginsay|talk]]) 17:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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He is listed as being 6ft 5 on the [[ imdb]] website |
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[http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000489/bio] [[User:Paul210|Paul210]] ([[User talk:Paul210|talk]]) 20:39, 2 January 2008 (UTC) |
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* Most places put him at 6'5", I think. Regardless, he is very tall for an actor and says this hampered his career. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 15:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC) |
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==Related to Tolkien??== |
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Is there any truth to him being related to Tolkien?[[User:Rickremember|Rickremember]] ([[User talk:Rickremember|talk]]) 08:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC) |
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:No, but CL knew Tolkein when CL was younger (information from LOTR FOTR, Exdended Edition Behind scenes DVD) |
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==David Croft== |
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Lee has starred with most of ''Dad's Army'' (Not with Walker and Pike) but does anyone know how many people he worked with who also worked with David Croft. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/84.64.127.63|84.64.127.63]] ([[User talk:84.64.127.63|talk]]) 18:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Korean-Englishman == |
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The introductory section to his article says that he is Korean, which redirects to [[Koreans in the United Kingdom]], but is not mentioned anywhere else in the article. Just wondering where this comes from. [[User:Darthjarek|Darthjarek]] ([[User talk:Darthjarek|talk]]) 01:23, 25 December 2008 (UTC) |
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It comes either from vandalism, or someone confusing the 80 year old English actor with a 30-something Korean businessman and has already been removed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/74.65.227.195|74.65.227.195]] ([[User talk:74.65.227.195|talk]]) 04:54, 29 December 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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==Lee witnessing the execution of Eugen Weidmann== |
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I have deleted this reference for three reasons. First of all, it was unsourced (though I hear tell it's from his biography). Second, it had absolutely no relevance to where it was placed (this was the context: "Instead, Lee attended Wellington College (Berkshire), where he won scholarships in classics. Lee witnessed the execution of Eugen Weidmann, the last person to be publicly executed in France, in June 1939). So he went to Wellington College and - as if in the process - witnessed the last execution in France? Third, though an interesting piece of trivia, it's not really significant. And if I may be so bold, as much as I like Christopher Lee, if his own biography is the only source it should be taken with a grain of salt. --[[User:Tsuka|Tsuka]] ([[User talk:Tsuka|talk]]) 21:43, 12 July 2010 (UTC) |
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==SOE secrecy== |
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The claim that "all details of actions undertaken by members of the SOE are still classified" is odd, and demonstrably false. Wikipedia itself has a list of SOE members and the exploits of quite a few of them, and indeed books have been written about SOE exploits, so I wonder where the claim that they are still classified comes from. Placing a "citation needed" would seem to cast doubt on the whole SOE thing in its entirety, however, so I opted just to snip away the excess. --[[User:Tsuka|Tsuka]] ([[User talk:Tsuka|talk]]) 14:27, 14 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:He says this in his autobiography, in fact I think the first edition doesn't mention SOE at all, but talks about being a 'commando'. I think it's dubious too. It is just about possible that there are missions (politically sensitive assassinations of 'allies'?) that are still secret... [[User:Lovingboth|Lovingboth]] ([[User talk:Lovingboth|talk]]) 11:52, 10 February 2011 (UTC) |
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He has acted in 266 movies but others have acted in more. For example, the tamil actress Manorama has acted in more than 1500 of them. Therefore, it could be edited to read "in Hollywood" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.193.4.15 (talk) 13:59, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
Bacon number information
I removed the information about Christopher Lee being second on the Bacon number list as Lee is currently eleventh, not second. My edit was reverted so I wanted to state here for other editors that I don't think bacon number information is relevent in Wikipedia as they change every time a new movie is made. Stating in the article that Christopher Lee for a certain period time was second on the list may be interesting but it isn't encyclopedic. Stating that he is currently eleventh is neither interesting or encyclopedic. Do what you want, I have had my say on the matter. ColinBlair (talk) 00:15, 6 June 2011 (UTC)