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Filomena Marturano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced film article. Not clear this work passes WP:NFILM or WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 01:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note to nominator: Please slow down film nominations for a while. It's very hard to check all those old films. -Mushy Yank. 08:37, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Giuseppe Madonia (mafioso) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Basically an unremarkable criminal. What there is in the way of ongoung covereage is fundamentally trivial. Is there a plausible redirect target? TheLongTone (talk) 15:52, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Augusto De Luca (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Dubious notability, tagged as such since 2023 without improvement. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:59, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep, as mentioned in the previous deletion nomination, the article was initially created as a “promotional entry” and that may have been the case, however, I created this article independently, without knowing a previous version existed, and without any contact with those who worked on that said original. As stated in the previous deletion discussion, the subject had notability, but the article was removed due to its promotional nature, something that isn’t the case now. V.B.Speranza (talk) 22:25, 12 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment In the previous deletion discussion, notability was never stated, established, or discussed.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon me, but the nominator clearly said that there was notability but that was useless due to it being a promotional entry 👍.
Cheers,
V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
*I respectfully disagree with you. The first nomination states The photographer (maybe) can have its own importance but this article was created together with other articles on other Wikis and other projects such as Wikiquote as part of a global promotional campaign on Wikipedia. The nominator clearly states maybe. The deletion was based on WP:PROMO. Notability was never addressed. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You said "notability was never stated", yet you quote the nominator mentioning the possibility of notability.
V.B.Speranza (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To remind you, we are discussing the notability of the article's subject per WP:NBIO, not the intentions of the article's author or the neutrality of its content.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× 07:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - note to closer SPA RonnyW55 has !voted twice. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This article has just been published * "Interview with Augusto De Luca". - The Unique Magazine. In which Augusto De Luca talks about his meeting with Carla Fracci. Carla Fracci (quote from en.wikipedia): “was an Italian prima ballerina, actress and ballet director. Considered one of the greatest ballerinas of the 20th century”. RonnyW55 (talk) 12:10, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I am not finding any reliable sources for the biographical information presented in the article. Unsourced list of books and promotional "link farm" tacked on the end. This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. He has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. Seems more like WP:PROMO. See source assessment table below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Source assessment table
Source Independent? Reliable? Significant coverage? Count source toward GNG?
No Looks like user submitted work on the site No
Yes Yes No listing for birth date and place only. No
Dailybest is an online magazine dedicated to the best of digital culture and Italian and international creativity. Looks like churnalism site. the translated "about" page tells how to submit articles. ? Unknown
No dead link No
Looks like churnalism site. ? Unknown
No first person /interview No
No No No YouTube promotion of book and exhibtion"NAPOLI DONNA" No
No No No YouTube promotion of book"FIRENZE FRAGMENTI D'ANIMA", No
No No No user generated content No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.
Comment - I apologize but I didn't know that if there is a new vote, however, there cannot be a new vote of the individual with new testimonies. But, having clarified this... is at least a discussion possible?

I believe (citing the exhibition above at the Chamber of Deputies) that probably two Presidents of the Italian Republic would not have gone to present the exhibition of an unknown photographer. To the many other exhibitions mentioned on the photographer's discussion page, there is also a video and an article of this other exhibition by Augusto De Luca at the Museum of Rome - Palazzo Braschi.

The critical texts are there: this is an important critical text in Italian and English from the FOTOTECA Siracusana*- Siracusana Photo Library In all De Luca's books, as you can verify, there are interventions by very important people who certainly would not have participated if the author had not been a renowned photographer:

Ferruccio Amendola, Maurizio Costanzo, Carlo Delle Piane, Virna Lisi, Luigi Magni, Nino Manfredi, Ennio Morricone, Nicola Pietrangeli, Paolo Portoghesi, Alberto Sordi, Valentino, Monica Vitti, Lina Wertmuller, Gino Bartali, Alessandro Benvenuti, Chiara Boni, Athina Cenci, Jury Chechi, Sandro Chia, Margherita Hack, Fiona May, Sergio Staino, Mario Luzi, Giorgio Albertazzi, Giuseppe Abbagnale, Peppe Barra, Renato Carosone, Luciano De Crescenzo, Luigi De Filippo, Ida Di Benedetto, Roberto Murolo, Nino Longobardi, Michele Prisco, Lina Sastri, Mimmo Liguoro. In the end…in many articles like the one I published above on the portrait of the dancer Carla Fracci, the various public and private collections in which De Luca's works are found are mentioned, just go and see. To name a few: Musee de la photography - Charleroi, Belgium International Polaroid Collection - Cambridge, États-Unis Musée de l'Élysée - Lausanne, Suisse Municipal Photographic Archive - Rome, Italy Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris Galerie nationale des arts esthétiques de la Chine, Pékin RonnyW55 (talk) 07:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cinder painter (talk) 14:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak Keep: A non-trivial amount of coverage found in Gnews, mostly Italian sources [1], I spot checked some. This is an interview [2] but he seems to have been active for a while and has taken photos of rather notable individuals. Oaktree b (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
also has a listing in the Getty ULAN, [3], with biographical info in Dutch, implying an amount of critical notice outside his home country as well. The Italian wiki says he has photos in the collection of a gallery in Firenze (Florence?), which should satisfy one of the artistic notability criteria. Oaktree b (talk) 14:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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