Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Italy
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- Filomena Marturano (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Unreferenced film article. Not clear this work passes WP:NFILM or WP:GNG.4meter4 (talk) 01:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. 4meter4 (talk) 01:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Argentina-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:19, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- [Merge with Filumena Marturano] [is warranted] -Mushy Yank. 08:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC) [Opposed to deletion: coverage, notable screenwriter and members of cast].-Mushy Yank. 19:47, 26 February 2025 (UTC)--->After further findings, Keep per WP:NFIC, the role of Tita Merello being considered one of her best film appearances.-Mushy Yank. 20:38, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Italy-related deletion discussions. -Mushy Yank. 08:36, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note to nominator: Please slow down film nominations for a while. It's very hard to check all those old films. -Mushy Yank. 08:37, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep. Changed vote after new sources with enough coverage were added for this 1950 film.
Redirect to Filumena_Marturano#Film_adaptations or Delete. Fails to meet WP:NFILM. No significant coverage on the film.RangersRus (talk) 19:37, 26 February 2025 (UTC) - Added ref to significant coverage (including 3 paragraphs in a book).-Mushy Yank. 20:42, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Giuseppe Madonia (mafioso) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Basically an unremarkable criminal. What there is in the way of ongoung covereage is fundamentally trivial. Is there a plausible redirect target? TheLongTone (talk) 15:52, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Crime, and Italy. Shellwood (talk) 16:43, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to Francesco Madonia#Family. Clarityfiend (talk) 21:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- comment by nominator I can live with that.TheLongTone (talk) 12:32, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Augusto De Luca (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Dubious notability, tagged as such since 2023 without improvement. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:59, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists, Photography, and Italy. Shellwood (talk) 22:07, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, as mentioned in the previous deletion nomination, the article was initially created as a “promotional entry” and that may have been the case, however, I created this article independently, without knowing a previous version existed, and without any contact with those who worked on that said original. As stated in the previous deletion discussion, the subject had notability, but the article was removed due to its promotional nature, something that isn’t the case now. V.B.Speranza (talk) 22:25, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment In the previous deletion discussion, notability was never stated, established, or discussed.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Pardon me, but the nominator clearly said that there was notability but that was useless due to it being a promotional entry 👍.
- Cheers,
- V.B.Speranza (talk) 23:59, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- *I respectfully disagree with you. The first nomination states
The photographer (maybe) can have its own importance but this article was created together with other articles on other Wikis and other projects such as Wikiquote as part of a global promotional campaign on Wikipedia.
The nominator clearly statesmaybe
. The deletion was based on WP:PROMO. Notability was never addressed. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)- You said "notability was never stated", yet you quote the nominator mentioning the possibility of notability.
- V.B.Speranza (talk) 15:35, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- *I respectfully disagree with you. The first nomination states
- Comment In the previous deletion discussion, notability was never stated, established, or discussed.--WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 02:21, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, I believe that Wikipedia is mainly interested in the encyclopedic nature of the character. So... just look on Google at the dozens of articles that this photographer has had, the people he has met and photographed in his career, the exhibitions and books he has created to understand that De Luca has all the qualifications and requirements to stay. RonnyW55 (talk) 07:24, 14 February 2025 (UTC) — RonnyW55 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- @RonnyW55 I agree, even if the previous page had the wrong intentions, I created this without knowing about it and I’ve done my best to keep it neutral and correct. V.B.Speranza (talk) 16:37, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
- @V.B.SperanzaI am certain that the current page does not contain any celebratory or promotional element. RonnyW55 (talk) 09:15, 15 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: To remind you, we are discussing the notability of the article's subject per WP:NBIO, not the intentions of the article's author or the neutrality of its content.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 07:54, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Keep, In addition to the many links that I have inserted in the discussion page of this photographer, some very important events with related correspondence are mentioned, such as: the exhibition at the Chamber of Deputies with the presentation of the President of the Italian Republic Giorgio Napolitano and the interventions of the Honorable Nilde Iotti and of Carlo Azeglio Ciampi, also President of the Italian Republic before Giorgio Napolitano * "La mostra alla Camera dei Deputati di Augusto De Luca" (in Italian).Scatole Piene. Then De Luca received, together with the maestro Ennio Morricone (Oscar for career as a composer), the "Città di Roma Award" for his photographic book "Roma Nostra". Morricone received the prize for a poem he wrote in the same book * "Ennio Morricone e Augusto De Luca Premiati" (in Italian).EDUcational Encyclopedia of Digital Arts. Is this notable or not ? RonnyW55 (talk) 13:55, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - note to closer SPA RonnyW55 has !voted twice. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:00, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- This article has just been published * "Interview with Augusto De Luca". - The Unique Magazine. In which Augusto De Luca talks about his meeting with Carla Fracci. Carla Fracci (quote from en.wikipedia): “was an Italian prima ballerina, actress and ballet director. Considered one of the greatest ballerinas of the 20th century”. RonnyW55 (talk) 12:10, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I am not finding any reliable sources for the biographical information presented in the article. Unsourced list of books and promotional "link farm" tacked on the end. This artist does not meet WP:NARTIST. He has not been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, or won significant critical attention, or been represented within the permanent collections of any notable galleries or museums. Seems more like WP:PROMO. See source assessment table below. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:22, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
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- Comment - I apologize but I didn't know that if there is a new vote, however, there cannot be a new vote of the individual with new testimonies. But, having clarified this... is at least a discussion possible?
I believe (citing the exhibition above at the Chamber of Deputies) that probably two Presidents of the Italian Republic would not have gone to present the exhibition of an unknown photographer. To the many other exhibitions mentioned on the photographer's discussion page, there is also a video and an article of this other exhibition by Augusto De Luca at the Museum of Rome - Palazzo Braschi.
The critical texts are there: this is an important critical text in Italian and English from the FOTOTECA Siracusana*- Siracusana Photo Library In all De Luca's books, as you can verify, there are interventions by very important people who certainly would not have participated if the author had not been a renowned photographer:
Ferruccio Amendola, Maurizio Costanzo, Carlo Delle Piane, Virna Lisi, Luigi Magni, Nino Manfredi, Ennio Morricone, Nicola Pietrangeli, Paolo Portoghesi, Alberto Sordi, Valentino, Monica Vitti, Lina Wertmuller, Gino Bartali, Alessandro Benvenuti, Chiara Boni, Athina Cenci, Jury Chechi, Sandro Chia, Margherita Hack, Fiona May, Sergio Staino, Mario Luzi, Giorgio Albertazzi, Giuseppe Abbagnale, Peppe Barra, Renato Carosone, Luciano De Crescenzo, Luigi De Filippo, Ida Di Benedetto, Roberto Murolo, Nino Longobardi, Michele Prisco, Lina Sastri, Mimmo Liguoro. In the end…in many articles like the one I published above on the portrait of the dancer Carla Fracci, the various public and private collections in which De Luca's works are found are mentioned, just go and see. To name a few: Musee de la photography - Charleroi, Belgium International Polaroid Collection - Cambridge, États-Unis Musée de l'Élysée - Lausanne, Suisse Municipal Photographic Archive - Rome, Italy Bibliothèque nationale de France, Paris Galerie nationale des arts esthétiques de la Chine, Pékin RonnyW55 (talk) 07:45, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- RonnyW55, Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 16:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- WomenArtistUpdates, Ok,Thanks. --RonnyW55 (talk) 20:36, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cinder painter (talk) 14:12, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Weak Keep: A non-trivial amount of coverage found in Gnews, mostly Italian sources [1], I spot checked some. This is an interview [2] but he seems to have been active for a while and has taken photos of rather notable individuals. Oaktree b (talk) 14:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- also has a listing in the Getty ULAN, [3], with biographical info in Dutch, implying an amount of critical notice outside his home country as well. The Italian wiki says he has photos in the collection of a gallery in Firenze (Florence?), which should satisfy one of the artistic notability criteria. Oaktree b (talk) 14:39, 26 February 2025 (UTC)