Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Don Pepin Garcia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was procedural close. Of the three commenters, two stated that they felt this should not have been a bundled nomination. With low participation and several relists, it's clear the format of this AFD is preventing wider community participation. No prejudice against a speedy re-nomination of each individual article in its own separate AFD. (non-admin closure) 4meter4 (talk) 18:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Don Pepin Garcia

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Appears to fail WP:GNG, minimal sources, promotional, advertisement-like article. Nythar^T^.^C 09:29, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also adding these non-notable cigar brand articles that appear to have been made by the same user:

El Rey de los Habanos (cigar)

Vegas Cubanas

Rey Miguel (cigar brand)

Sancti Spiritus (cigar)

Rio Tabac Alpha Series

Most of the articles listed above have database or unreliable sources, not particularly notable; they don't appear to pass WP:GNG. Nythar^T^.^C 09:41, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Products-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 09:43, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Nicaragua and Florida. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:39, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I find it difficult to consider these as a group - some have at least one "decent" reference (from Cigar Aficionado magazine), and since these articles are from around 2006 there may be other sources. Others have zero references, and after a short review might be quickly deleted. A fair amount of WP:BEFORE is going to be needed. Having taken a look at some of these and at articles for other cigar brands it does look to me that the only information is going to come from cigar magazines, which are as pretty much about promotion, but I assume that's the same for other types of products. (There are occasional mentions in business news sources, but that relates to the company, not the product.) I suggest considering this one, which is in relatively good shape, which might help us all understand what sources are needed for cigar notability. Lamona (talk) 18:35, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Lamona: The article of Cigar Aficionado looks like an advertisement, and most of the sources in the article are from its own website, so I don't know how relevant that magazine is. Nythar^T^.^C 19:25, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
User:Nythar I definitely hear you. At the same time, I think that CA is one of those magazines, like wine magazines and fashion magazines, that essentially exist as advertisements. But I don't know where such magazines stand as sources, but this one isn't on the list of Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Perennial_sources, nor is the wine magazine by the same editor. I looked at the WP Cigar Aficionado article and it is entirely sourced to itself (with one exception that doesn't support notability). I've added the "needs 3rd party sources" tag. Lamona (talk) 03:33, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I am wondering if these might be merged into a list of hand-rolled cigar manufacturers. BD2412 T 05:28, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 09:47, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I would suggest this AfD to only be about Don Pepin Garcia to save confusion. A separate discussion through WP:RM might benefit for the list mentioned. – The Grid (talk) 13:58, 12 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 19:08, 18 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Seems like an advertisement stuff. Found no reliable sources Atighot (talk) 20:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relisting to consider Merge option or unbundling this nomination brought up by a participant.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:36, 25 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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Don Pepin Garcia