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The Yorkshire WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter Issue 202 – February 2025 January issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News Welcome to the two hundred and second WikiProject Yorkshire monthly newsletter. Thanks to the contributions of our many members and supporters, WikiProject Yorkshire has become a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 20,093 last month to 20,194 on 30 January 2025). In the area of GAs WikiProject Yorkshire at 225 is ahead of WikiProject Greater Manchester who have 91. WikiProject Yorkshire also has the lead in FAs at 95 while WikiProject Greater Manchester has 64 out of a total number of 5,178 articles. Currently we have seventy eight Yorkshire featured articles: George Calvert, 1st Baron Baltimore • York City F.C. • Joseph Priestley • Stocksbridge Park Steels F.C. • Valley Parade • William Wilberforce • History of Bradford City A.F.C. • Last of the Summer Wine • Ealdred (archbishop of York) • Paulinus of York • Wilfrid • HMS Endeavour • Cosmo Gordon Lang • Thomas of Bayeux • Cottingley Fairies • Wilfred Rhodes • Guy Fawkes • Yorkshire captaincy affair of 1927 • Roy Kilner • George Macaulay • Frederick Delius • Battle of Towton • Halifax Gibbet • Gerard (archbishop of York) • George Hirst • Geoffrey (archbishop of York) • Len Hutton • Hedley Verity • Abe Waddington • Æthelwold ætheling • Preparing for a Fancy Dress Ball • The Combat: Woman Pleading for the Vanquished • The Wrestlers (Etty) • Bootham Crescent • History of York City F.C. (1922–1980) • William Etty • History of York City F.C. (1980–present) • William Sterndale Bennett • Candaules, King of Lydia, Shews his Wife by Stealth to Gyges, One of his Ministers, as She Goes to Bed • The World Before the Flood • Musidora: The Bather 'At the Doubtful Breeze Alarmed' • North Eastern Railway War Memorial • York City War Memorial • Northern England • Albert Pierrepoint • RSPB Dearne Valley Old Moor • Keldholme Priory election dispute • 2018 World Snooker Championship • 2019 World Snooker Championship • Capture of Wakefield • 2017 World Snooker Championship • 2017 EFL Championship play-off Final • 1985 World Snooker Championship • Cardiff City F.C. 2–1 Leeds United F.C. (2002) • 1986 World Snooker Championship • 1988 Football League Second Division play-off Final • 2020 World Snooker Championship • 1984 World Snooker Championship • 1925 FA Cup Final • 2006 Football League Championship play-off Final • Acamptonectes • 1997 Football League First Division play-off Final • 1987 World Snooker Championship • 1989 World Snooker Championship • 2014 World Snooker Championship • 1983 World Snooker Championship • 1988 World Snooker Championship • 2015 World Snooker Championship • 2002 World Snooker Championship • 2021 World Snooker Championship • 1982 World Snooker Championship • 2016 World Snooker Championship • 2022 World Snooker Championship • 1981 World Snooker Championship • 1980 World Snooker Championship • Ian Carmichael •2023 World Snooker Championship • 1858 Bradford sweets poisoning There are also seventeen featured lists: York City F.C. Clubman of the Year • List of York City F.C. managers • List of York City F.C. players • List of York City F.C. seasons • List of Bradford City A.F.C. seasons • List of York City F.C. records and statistics • List of Leeds United F.C. seasons • List of Scarborough F.C. seasons • List of awards and nominations received by Arctic Monkeys • List of Sites of Special Scientific Interest in Cleveland • List of Hull City A.F.C. seasons • List of churches preserved by the Churches Conservation Trust in Northern England • Sheffield United F.C. league record by opponent • York City F.C. league record by opponent • List of York City F.C. players (25–99 appearances) • List of York City F.C. players (1–24 appearances) • Bootham Crescent • Kate Rusby discography Thank you and well done to all those who contributed. Article Activity Jackie Stamps nominated for GA on 31 December 2006 World Snooker Championship promoted to GA on 5 January Clifton House School appeared in DYK on 9 January Legend of the Sea Devils promoted to GA on 10 January 2024 World Snooker Championship nominated for FA on 11 January Oh No It's Selwyn Froggitt nominated for GA on 12 January Draughton, North Yorkshire promoted to GA on 14 January Laurence Sterne nominated for GA on 16 January Laurence Sterne promoted to GA on 17 January Geoffrey Boycott nominated for GA review on 17 January Leeds Country Way nominated for GA review on 19 January One Direction nominated for FA on 22 January Leeds Country Way retained GA after review review on 24 January Geoffrey Boycott retained GA after review review on 25 January Louis Tomlinson nominated for GA on 26 January Member News There are 102 members of WikiProject Yorkshire! A warm welcome to the new members that have joined us since the January newsletter. Itsziggyp (talk · contribs) Assessment Assess and review As of 30 January 2025, we have assessed 100% of all articles with a project banner. (Some new and additional article talk pages may still require a banner however) Aims After discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire in April 2008. Specific aims for the project are:- To complete tagging and assessment of all Yorkshire related articles (See Assessment) To recruit more active editors (See Member News) To bring our top level article Yorkshire up to Featured article status To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members Priority Articles The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows - Bradford • Doncaster • East Riding of Yorkshire • Henry Moore • Kingston upon Hull • Leeds • Northern England • North Yorkshire • Ripon • Sheffield • South Yorkshire • Wakefield • West Yorkshire • William Wilberforce • York • Yorkshire • Yorkshire and the Humber The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first. Article activity Thanks to all members for the great start to the year with the number of articles that have been nominated or promoted to Good Article or Featured Article status during the month. It was also great that the couple of articles that were nominated for a Good Article Review were retained after work was done on them. Keep up the good work. WikiProject Yorkshire Collaboration of the Month Project The February 2025 articles selected below are an editor choice as there were no nominations on the project talk page. Month Dates Article(s) B class choice Start class choice 177 1 Sep 2024 ~ 30 Sep 2024 On Ilkla Moor Baht 'at Kaiser Chiefs 178 1 Oct 2024 ~ 31 Oct 2024 Michael Parkinson Leeds dripping riot 179 1 Nov 2024 ~ 30 Nov 2024 River Went Minster Yard 180 1 Dec 2024 ~ 31 Dec 2024 Scarborough Castle Nunnery Colliery 181 1 Jan 2025 ~ 31 Jan 2025 John Thomson (bishop) Ormesby Hall 182 1 Feb 2025 ~ 28 Feb 2025 Upgang Lifeboat Station Pocklington School Please nominate future articles for improvement at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire. Please bear in mind... The project is subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis. Monitoring is essential Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible. Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR. You will also have to check that the Commons link is set correctly. Thanks A very big Thank you to all the editors who labour away quietly and help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. To members who have added suggestions to the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal. To the football and rugby editors who have done sterling work in keeping abreast of the top clubs. To all the WikiProject Yorkshire editors who have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist.  Great! Comments, questions and suggestions about this, or any, issue of the newsletter are always welcome and can be made by pressing the feedback button below... Written by Keith D • Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:YORKS? Please nominate yourself at WT:YORKS! New editors are always welcome!

11:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

I am the one who nominated the Draft of a name I have forgot for deletion (you can find a contribution about it in my contributions page). What was the name of it, because the page creation has been wiped from the contributions of the IP (71.17.196.25 i believe?). 71.78.136.213 (talk) 19:37, 1 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Replied on your talk page a couple of days ago. — Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:48, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025). Administrator changes Arcticocean Wugapodes Euryalus CheckUser changes Firefly L235 Oversighter changes Firefly Guerillero L235 Moneytrees Technical news Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846 A 'Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145 Arbitration The arbitration case Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been closed.

Hello there. I wanted to talk about the Sinfest situation in more detail. As you said before that brief RfC closed: "find high-quality sources and summarise what they say." While that's certainly true, polite and said in good faith, I think the complainers already understood that would be the best option, they just didn't think it would be possible. I'm inclined to agree with them.

I don't know how familiar you are with writing about webcomics, so I hope you don't mind if I gab the scenic route. It's a real bother. While there are plenty of readers, with one hosting platform pulling in tens of millions of readers alone, webcomics are very poorly positioned to produce the kind of sources we can use. They're overwhelmingly hobbyist, "a person, a tablet, and a dream" affairs. That doesn't draw in reporters for a webcomic beat, the way there's a book beat or a comics beat. A webcomic's very successful if it can support its artist, so they don't get the kind of dollars or commercialization that get attention. There hasn't been the time or cash flow for respectable, well-established publishers. There's little academic interest. In short, waiting for a cite from something like the New York Times is a bad idea. Sourcing webcomics is more of a scrounging act. "We found statements from two noted cartoonists and a newspaper article going "Local artist does something on Internet, computers confuse us but good on them I guess.""

This might be easier if we had a body of editors experienced in where to look and how, and their notes - you know, institutional knowledge - but the webcomic wikiproject was killed after - and bitterness may be coloring my memories here - a small number of editors devastated our coverage of the topic, using AfD as a first resort, making no effort to improve articles or look for sources, re-nominating and re-re-nominating the same articles for deletion as many times as it took to get a "delete", and even if you made the grueling scavenger hunt to find sources for an article that would probably be deleted regardless, you wouldn't have the time or energy to do the same for the other nineteen they AfD'd blithely at the same time. You can understand why that'd be bad for morale.

You especially won't find articles going "Webcomic respected long time ago spouts Nazi stances." Why would people write those? There's rather a lot of very disagreeable things on the Internet. Keeping track of it wouldn't be possible or sane, and charting its history is perhaps of interest to students of radicalization and history professors, who are thin on the ground with webcomics. But since notability's not temporary, we can end up in a situation where all we have are good, reasonable, old sources about what a webcomic was that are wholly inaccurate about what a webcomic is.

Which brings us to the business at hand.

Sinfest was wacky, irreverent gag-a-day comedy. Then it was earnest feminism. In the last couple of months it's depicted Jews poisoning wells, sacrificing babies and draining their blood, and a Jew being killed in an on-panel lynching as a righteous act. A quote:

"What's the password?
"Kill all the goyim. Smash their idols. Burn their statues. Annihilate them from memory."
"Shalom."

I don't mean to say the Sinfest of today is that bad. I mean to say it's much worse. I've left out the things someone might contest, such as the council of the "Learned Elders of Zion" being a reference to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, Yahweh being drawn as The Happy Merchant, and his "We are eternal" line being another reference, and the things from further back such as how the camps and Hitler being evil were propaganda and the real victim was Germany and the real perpetrator the Jews, or the perfidy of the Jewish financiers and media in the Weimar Republic.

To my feeble understanding, the complainers' argument is that having an encyclopedia article that presents what Sinfest has become as what it once was is inaccurate - worse, it's deceptive. People who oppose covering what it is without secondary sources argue that it's accepted that Wikipedia is a work in progress, but what are we supposed to do, wait thirty years until the 200-hour adaptation of Homestuck takes the world by storm and the field gets enough interest for someone to compile The History of Webcomics, 1985-2007?

I'm sympathetic to the complainers on this, and would invoke IAR if I thought it had a snowball's chance. Do you have any angles on tackling this mess? For instance, would you happen to know if it'd be appropriate to use that "What's the password?" panel as the illustration for the article? --Kizor 19:38, 7 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your rangeblock and mass deletion of the "Shruthi swarup" edits - we'll see what happens in 72 hours (if not sooner) - thanks again - Arjayay (talk) 12:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The nature of those edits was a bit unexpected! Hopefully, they will move on. — Malcolmxl5 (talk) 12:22, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 00:09, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

Seven years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, thanks for blocking the IPs, but this person is using new IPs as you perform a block. Please range-block 211.36.142. See 211.36.142.34 filter logs. Jerium (talk) 16:36, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A rangeblock is in place. — Malcolmxl5 (talk) 16:42, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would you mind doing a rev/del on [25] please? Thanks in advance, Knitsey (talk) 18:31, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. No problem. — Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:34, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. Knitsey (talk) 18:39, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

MediaWiki message delivery 00:38, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I think you might have mistakenly undone one of my edits to this page where I mass rollbacked that IP hopper. It was supposed to be the year 1935. Can you please check this again? Thanks. User3749 (talk) 18:21, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that was a mistake, I probably misclicked when looking at the IPs contributions. I’ve rollbacked my edit. Thanks for letting me know. — Malcolmxl5 (talk) 18:26, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]