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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 January 2025
Why is there no discussion of the controversies in regards to his handling of Covid 19? 2603:8080:3B00:EB9:84B9:F97B:5B87:F7C7 (talk) 15:21, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The problem with this article is that it fails to acknowledge the gravity of reasonable criticisms of Fauci in connection with the government's response to the Covid 19 pandemic. Currently the article falls far short of the standards of an encyclopedia. It reads as if drafted by a public relations firm. 76.98.245.38 (talk) 04:14, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The first Trump government's horrible mishandling of the pandemic is not Fauci's fault. I am not aware of any "reasonable critism" of him about it. Can you give any sources? No wackjobs please. --Hob Gadling (talk) 09:07, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There should be a subsection in his career that goes more in-depth into his work with biodefense after 9/11. He was a major figure in the Bush administration's notable work to conduct research on bioweapons as part of their plan to secure the country against terrorism, combining that work with research into natural pathogens.[1][2][3][4][5]Manuductive (talk) 09:31, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
What may have happened is that the document was printed and dated on Sunday, but Biden did not make the final decision until Monday morning. Jfire (talk) 16:32, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ostensible rationale for preemptive pardon
@Jtbobwaysf requested that material from the lead be discussed here. The material in question is ostensibly in order to thwart potential prosecution by the incoming second Trump administration. This is supported by the cited New York Times article, which says President Biden granted a wave of pre-emptive pardons ... to guard ... high-profile figures from a promised campaign of “retribution” by his incoming successor, Donald J. Trump. ... In an extraordinary effort by an outgoing president to derail political prosecutions by an incoming president, Mr. Biden pardoned ... Dr. Anthony S. Fauci. Jtbobwaysf could you explain why you think this falls afoul of WP:CRYSTAL? As I see it, this is a statement about Biden's stated rationale and beliefs, not a prediction in Wiki-voice about the future. I am open to wordsmithing the language to make this clearer, but I think it's perfectly acceptable content for the lead (and for the body). As WP:CRYSTAL states: It is appropriate to report discussion and arguments about ... whether some development will occur, if discussion is properly referenced. That is what this is. Jfire (talk) 05:53, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Three problems here, none of them I see easily overcome.
Second the entire statement is obvious WP:CRYSTAL. Just because the nyt said it, doesnt mean it isn't crystal. We dont just take crystal statements and regurgitate them in wikivoice.
Third it is grossly undue as it implies that we know with sufficient clarity what someone in the future might do. At wikipedia we cover things that have actually happended, or in some cases super notable predictions, but in that case they have to be attributed. Here we are not going to attribute (at least I dont think we are) this statement to the NYT and just parrot it here at wikipedia. We are amplifying the voice of the NYT for no reason, and thus it is WP:UNDUE for weight reasons (as well as the synth and crystal above). It is also undue as excessive weight is given to summarzing something that doesn't even have a section in the article. If you would like to create a whole section on the pardon (I dont see one now) and then summarize it in the lead, then we can discuss that, but that doesnt exist for the moment.
level-5 vital article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale.
Not done for now: There seems to be enough content on his handling of Covid-19 in the section Anthony Fauci#COVID-19 pandemic, with the potential controversies as a result of it TNM101 (chat) 15:45, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
