Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Japan
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- Jeon San-hae (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG, Only played on lower level and lacks significant and independent coverage, including ja:wiki which only has primary sources and a factsheet by Soccer-King. :Geschichte (talk) 05:56, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. The article also lacks anything besides statistics, which isn't enough for a whole article in on its own. AIntrestingGuy (talk) 06:16, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Football, Japan, South Korea, and Thailand. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 09:38, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 09:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: There are brief profiles in Thai sources covering Chonburi's announcement of his signing. They say he made 38 appearances for Jeonju Citizen FC between 2022 and 2024, before joining Chonburi.[1][2] --Paul_012 (talk) 21:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Jeonju Citizen plays on the fourth tier, though, so not as significant as top level Geschichte (talk) 12:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Miyu Takahashi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Super 500 tournament appears to be the only thing that has changed since Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2024 October 28 endorsed my closure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miyu Takahashi. While sources can be found, it does not appear that sufficient have been found for this to be in mainspace and Takahashi lost in the first round which does not meet N:SPORT either. Bringing this here for discussion and further handling if needed. NB: this was created by a new editor, and Pppery performed the requisite history merge to address the copy paste move. Star Mississippi 04:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Badminton, and Japan. Star Mississippi 04:11, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- My Opinion = Keep the article
- Reason = For the NSPORT criteria. The final sentence sounds like this - "For contemporary persons, given a reasonable amount of time to locate appropriate sources, the general notability guideline should be met in order for an article to meet Wikipedia's standards for inclusion." Miyu Takahashi is a contemporary person and she is young and still going on tournament which her last tournament is Kumamoto Masters S500 in November 2024 (last month) where she lost to someone as contemporary and as notable as Jia Yi Fan and Zhang Shuxian.[1]. Plus, She just recently won Vietnam Open and a runner up in Indonesia Masters (both are S100) - fulfilling NBAD criteria. Lowyat Slyder (talk) 11:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Both of those tournaments were addressed in the prior discussion. You're making an excellent case for draft space where time for sourcing can happen, but it hasn't been found since October. Star Mississippi 13:08, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - all citations I have found are stats pages and mentions, nothing significant. At best they mention that she has won some tournaments, but no details on her life and career. Shinadamina (talk) 05:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep As the winner of 2024 Vietnam Open and runner-up in 2024 Indonesia Masters Super 100 I, she and Mizuki Otake have finished on the podium of a BWF World Tour tournament passing WP:NBADMINTON. Note that her partner Otake's page was nominated for deletion with the result being no consensus. I've also added some additional sources and note there is more coverage in Japanese. It would be nice if nominators of Japanese articles showed evidence of doing a WP:BEFORE search that included native language sources. DCsansei (talk) 21:45, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
- Pokémon Home (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This subject has no significant coverage. My BEFORE yielded nothing barring WP:GAMEGUIDE content and WP:ROUTINE news coverage of updates, as well as trivial mentions of the app's connectivity with Sword and Shield. This subject has no actual reviews or pieces of commentary that would indicate this to be independently notable. All citations in the article, barring GAMEGUIDE content, are PRIMARY sources. This article is better off redirected to List of Pokémon video games, where the subject is listed in-depth already and is listed in the context of other games in the series. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Video games and Japan. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 19:56, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect Insufficient amounts of critical commentary besides this I found. Still not enough, IMO, to pass WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:00, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect Same - I had a look and couldn't find much commentary on the game beyond the TheGamer article. The list of games does seem to be the place for it. VRXCES (talk) 23:13, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- List of Pokémon volumes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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INDISCRIMINATE list of volumes from a variety of non-notable manga series, with their only similarity being that they're related to Pokémon. List of chapter information with no context as to why this split is notable nor necessary, and has no reason to exist separately from any other article. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 18:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature, Comics and animation, Anime and manga, and Japan. Magneton Considerer: Pokelego999 (Talk) (Contribs) 18:58, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 15:31, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with Pokémon Pocket Monsters. Not long enough to satisfy a WP:SPLIT. Merge the remaining info to the main article. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:34, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rugby School Japan (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article is about a branch of Rugby School, only opened a year ago. I think that it is WP:TOOSOON for it to be likely to meet WP:GNG or WP:NCORP, and indeed I cannot find significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. There was an article in The Rugby Advertiser in 2019 about the planned school, but this is local coverage and about a third of the article was a statement from Rugby School. There was an interview with the head in Relocate magazine, but I am not sure that this is a reliable source - the magazine's About talks about sponsored content. There is this article in the Sustainable Japan section of the Japan Times, which is a reliable source, but again it is mostly an interview. There is also an article from the British Chamber of Commerce in Japan, but this is not an independent source. I added a section on overseas branches to Rugby School, and redirected this article there, but another editor reverted this; so bringing it here for the community's view. Tacyarg (talk) 11:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Education, Schools, Japan, United Kingdom, and England. Tacyarg (talk) 11:30, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Rugby School. There is also a Rugby School Thailand which should really be considered together to avoid trainwrecks. Can that be added to this nomination? These are new ventures that purportedly are creating overseas campuses of Rugby school. Rugby is clearly notable, but the only thing making these other sites notable is the Rugby name, which is a clear case of WP:INHERITED. They are, per nom., too new to have gained any independent notability. They should, however, be discussed on the Rugby school page. There is mergeable content and the redirects would preserve former content and provide a pathway for readers to locate the relevant information in the relevant parent article. Spinout could occur if and when they become independenltly notable. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:03, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I had redirected Rugby School Thailand too - having put brief details of both schools in the Rugby School article first - but that was also reverted. I had considered AfD for that too, but have not yet had time to carry out WP:BEFORE for that branch and it has been going longer (2017) so there may be more coverage, so was holding off on that. Happy for it to be bundled with this discussion though if people want. Tacyarg (talk) 12:26, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
RottenTomato0222 speaking here: I think both articles should NOT be deleted and be kept as independent articles for the following reasons: Though not many readers might recognise either Rugby School Japan or Rugby School Thailand, some teachers/families who are intended to move to those schools have the need to read about that school online whether if they're reading it on Wikipedia or not. Second of all, just because there's not a lot of articles dedicated to Rugby School's branches in Asia compared to the original school, there are tens of articles online discussing about Rugby School Japan and Rugby School Thailand, so we actually do have loads more to write on the article. Third of all, just because the article's discussion is not widely discussed doesn't mean that the article has to be deleted. As mentioned earlier before, there are people who really needs to read those articles. In addition, other world-famous school from the UK like Harrow School's branches in Asia have seperate articles on Wikipedia; like Harrow International School Bangkok, Harrow International School Hong Kong, Harrow International School Beijing, etc.. Furthermore, other UK boarding schools' branches in Asia other than Harrow School all have an article as well, for example; Haileybury Almaty, Marlborough College Malaysia, and Dulwich College Beijing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RottenTomato0222 (talk • contribs) 12:44, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- It might look a bit messy and have some grammatically incorrect sentences or structures as I was writing that on a hurry. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 23:24, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFF is an argument to avoid at AfD, although here it raises an interesting question. Is this school a campus of Rugby School itself, or is it an international school in the way the Oxford International Schools (or Harrow) international schools, where these are legally independent private schools that affiliate to and adopt the syllabus of the affiliating body (e.g the Oxford Education group)? What is the legal arrangement? The page as it stands reads as if this is a campus of Rugby (which is a reasonably common arrangement, more so for universities). But if it is not really part of Rugby at all, but a legally independent private school that is permitted to use the Rugby name then a lot of what is on the page would necessarily be deleted and it is likely (as for a the Oxford International Schools) that there would not be notability of r an article as it would fail WP:NORG. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Answering your question, the legal arrangement is that Rugby School Japan is an independent private school, just like many other franchise schools. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Hope that helps. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- But the school was set up by Rugby School? Looking at RSJ's website, it says
Rugby School Japan is proud to be part of the Rugby School Group, an international network of pupils, teachers and senior leaders
. The website for the original Rugby School saysRugby is in the process of developing a family of Rugby schools around the world, following the successful establishment of Rugby School Thailand
. So should there be an umbrella Rugby School Group article, if notability is met, and then if we don't find RSJ notable, it can be mentioned there and a redirect in place? Tacyarg (talk) 11:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)- Rugby School Japan, or should we call it RSJ, was indeed established by Rugby School, but that doesn't mean RSJ is part of Rugby School's campuses. In contrast, Harrow International School Bangkok for example, was established by a British private school, but still has a Wikipedia page on its own, rather than being merged with Harrow School. The reason is simple; going back to the Rugby Schools Group, that is a brand of a school set up by Rugby School, though their schools are still independent. Another reason; many British private schools in Asia might have opened under the name of their original school in the UK, but the operator of the school in Asia are different. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 13:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that this was not established by Rugby School at all. It is a venture of Clarence Education Asia [3], who seem to have funded the school and then partnered with Rugby School Group. This is a similar structure used by the Oxford Schools. The school is therefore not a campus of Rugby but an independent sister school that is licensed to use the Rugby name and branding, and follows a Rugby School Group curriculum. What this means is that it is a private for profit independent school. The appropriate notability guidelines are WP:NORG. My searches do not find independent sources that meet WP:ORGDEPTH, so we are still not at a keep here. The question is only whether an appropriate merge target can be found. I think there is still a case for a merge with Rugby School under a section called either "sister schools" or "Rugby school group". The alternative is there could be a Rugby School Group article per Tacyarg, and that could then cover all such schools. Failing these alternatives, my view is that it should be deleted as it currently lacks independent notability, but my preference is merge somewhere, and Rugby School remains my preference. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Exactly, Rugby School Japan is an independent school, either if Rugby School established it or not. Any school can be made into an article, even if it's operated under the name of another institution, unless the whole building is a campus of Rugby School, for example. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 08:30, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- It appears that this was not established by Rugby School at all. It is a venture of Clarence Education Asia [3], who seem to have funded the school and then partnered with Rugby School Group. This is a similar structure used by the Oxford Schools. The school is therefore not a campus of Rugby but an independent sister school that is licensed to use the Rugby name and branding, and follows a Rugby School Group curriculum. What this means is that it is a private for profit independent school. The appropriate notability guidelines are WP:NORG. My searches do not find independent sources that meet WP:ORGDEPTH, so we are still not at a keep here. The question is only whether an appropriate merge target can be found. I think there is still a case for a merge with Rugby School under a section called either "sister schools" or "Rugby school group". The alternative is there could be a Rugby School Group article per Tacyarg, and that could then cover all such schools. Failing these alternatives, my view is that it should be deleted as it currently lacks independent notability, but my preference is merge somewhere, and Rugby School remains my preference. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 14:39, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rugby School Japan, or should we call it RSJ, was indeed established by Rugby School, but that doesn't mean RSJ is part of Rugby School's campuses. In contrast, Harrow International School Bangkok for example, was established by a British private school, but still has a Wikipedia page on its own, rather than being merged with Harrow School. The reason is simple; going back to the Rugby Schools Group, that is a brand of a school set up by Rugby School, though their schools are still independent. Another reason; many British private schools in Asia might have opened under the name of their original school in the UK, but the operator of the school in Asia are different. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 13:26, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- But the school was set up by Rugby School? Looking at RSJ's website, it says
- Hope that helps. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- Answering your question, the legal arrangement is that Rugby School Japan is an independent private school, just like many other franchise schools. RottenTomato0222 (talk) 09:56, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
- WP:OTHERSTUFF is an argument to avoid at AfD, although here it raises an interesting question. Is this school a campus of Rugby School itself, or is it an international school in the way the Oxford International Schools (or Harrow) international schools, where these are legally independent private schools that affiliate to and adopt the syllabus of the affiliating body (e.g the Oxford Education group)? What is the legal arrangement? The page as it stands reads as if this is a campus of Rugby (which is a reasonably common arrangement, more so for universities). But if it is not really part of Rugby at all, but a legally independent private school that is permitted to use the Rugby name then a lot of what is on the page would necessarily be deleted and it is likely (as for a the Oxford International Schools) that there would not be notability of r an article as it would fail WP:NORG. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 09:10, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 12:52, 15 December 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Owen× ☎ 01:33, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Added significant coverage from Mainichi in both English and Japanese [4] [5] to the article. Lots of additional coverage in the context of the expansion of British schools into Japan and their tenuous legal status. [6] A significant profile of the headmaster in the Japan Times [7]. Coverage on opening. [8] A bit tricky to search for sources in Japanese but likely quite a bit exists once you filter through coverage of school rugby games that come up for those keywords... DCsansei (talk) 22:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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