The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.

Suspected sockpuppeteer

Jebbrady (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)

Suspected sockpuppets

69.115.162.235 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
67.80.157.45 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log) (Added by EdJohnston 22 July 2007; see note below)

Report submission by

Lisasmall 15:29, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Evidence

Please compare 69.115.162.235's contributions to jebbrady's contributions.

Please also review Talk:Herbert W. Armstrong to see both identities in action, using identical arguments and language, posting aggressively in the same time frame but never actually overlapping in the same exact moment.

Please see User_talk:Jebbrady for his admission that he has previously been "blocked so rapidly by more than one administrator." Without making a judgment on the validity of those blocks or holding them against him in this complaint, this evidence of past blocks is offered here solely as a possible reason the sockpuppet has been used.

Please note that the majority of the "work" done by both identities is the reversion/deletion of work done by other editors. I did not do a reversion count; someone with more experience might be able to tell if justified fear of the 3RR rule might have inspired the creation of the puppet.

This user, by either name, is in violation of WP:OWN, WP:NPOV, WP:VERIFY, WP:CIVIL, WP:SKILL, WP:NPA throughout Talk:Herbert W. Armstrong. Those violations are not the subject of this report. It is the behavior of both identities while violating the other policies which seems to prove they are controlled by the same individual. Similarities in conduct, vocabulary, syntax, timing, and the consistent POV expressed by both identities, prove they are the same individual.

Proof that this is not an innocent-though-repetitive "I forgot to log in" error but is actually intentional use of a sockpuppet is that not once during a multitude of opportunities on the Talk:Herbert W. Armstrong page does Jebbrady say anything like, "Oh, that's me, I just forgot to log in." He does nothing to clear up the manifest confusion among other editors about whether they are talking to one person or two.

"Proof" here means proved to my own satisfaction in reviewing the referenced documents. Someone else might have a lower or higher standard of proof. Examining other articles the two identities have "worked" on might, or might not, produce additional evidence.

Evidence added by User:EdJohnston: See another IP account employed by this same user at 67.80.157.45 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log). This account was blocked for 31 hours on 4 March 2007 by User:Jossi for editing violations at Worldwide Church of God. A discussion of this event is still visible at User_talk:Jebbrady. The note in the block log is 'vandalism' and the unwanted changes consisted of blanking of some paragraphs critical of Herbert W. Armstrong, which this editor repeated three times, until blocked. EdJohnston 16:44, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Conclusions

Yes, they appear to be the same editor, pretty clearly. It may be as simple as forgetting to log in. However, in the absence of any explanation from Jebbrady, I have soft-blocked the IP for 1 week, which should encourage him to log in. If the IP again becomes a problem in terms of tag-teaming with the named account, I can block it for longer, but it appears to be a dynamic IP, so don't be surprised if another related IP pops up in the next few days. MastCell ^Talk 17:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]