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The result of the discussion was retarget to American football in American Samoa with a hatnote. (non-admin closure) C F A 💬 03:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Football in American Samoa → Soccer in American Samoa  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

The sport of "football" in American Samoa typically refers to American Football, which has much greater participation among American Samoans than does Association Football. I propose that this be either retargeted to American Football in American Samoa, or that a dab page be created between the two. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 23:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Disambig per nom. Thryduulf (talk) 12:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per nom. American Samoa uses American English, a hatnote can be added for non-native speakers for any rugby or soccer topic articles. There are many American Samoans who play(ed) in top level American football. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per nom. A hatnote to Soccer in American Samoa would also be useful for our readers. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete. Thryduulf (talk) 04:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Tim McBride → Sarah McBride  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Pre-notability deadname not mentioned in article. It's unlikely anyone knows of her by this name but not her current name. Fathoms Below (talk) 22:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep and add mention in the personal history. We do not delete history just because it is inconvenient -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 22:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:DEADNAME: no notability established under that name. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 22:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Snowball delete, salt and RevDel per WP:GENSEX and preferred practice in enforcement of that decision of RevDel'ing all deadnaming attempts not consistent with policy. There is really no need to have this discussion here before doing this. Once that is done, the same should be done with this discussion. Daniel Case (talk) 00:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  What would revdel even do for a deleted article? The deletion log and pointer to this discussion is still valuable to keep a record of. And salting is probably overkill. At most, ECP would probably stop the casual troll or good-faith but misguided newish editor. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete on the merits, as not mentioned at target, but I disagree with Daniel Case - a redirect created a decade ago by an admin in good standing deserves a discussion, and there's absolutely no reason to try to censor even internal references (nor is doing so practical). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Cbrown1023 talk 05:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  If the IP above hadn't voted "keep", this vote would have made the redirect eligible for {{Db-g7}}. Steel1943 (talk) 20:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  She is a politician who has made it part of her political activities, the issue of gender identity, so it would seem that her history should be in her biography. Thus meriting a mention of this name. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Her deadname isn't notable at all Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 08:26, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as long as it's not mentioned in the article, which consensus seems to be against doing. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 17:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:RSURPRISE. Steel1943 (talk) 20:29, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Name not mentioned at target, and likely will never be per MOS:DEADNAME.

-insert valid name here- (talk) 21:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete She was never notable under that name, so we should not include that name. Salt this if anyone tries to recreate it. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Snowball delete, salt, revdel - including the name mentioned in this discussion needs to be redacted per policy, falls under WP:RD4 as a privacy interest of non-notable old name, out of line with WP:DEADNAME. Raladic (talk) 03:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was G5 speedy deleted by User:Amortias. (non-admin closure) Ca ^{talk to me!} 03:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Busy2 → Template:Busy  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not really plausible? Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 22:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I could buy this if it were a {{R with history}}/{{R from merge}} but it isn't - it was created only a day ago for mysterious reasons. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Per prior deletion discussion, there was consensus to delete the page with this name. Not quite a WP:G4 because the redirect never existed prior, but I don't see a point in keeping this unless it is for the sole reason of rendering old pages using the preview function. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 05:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as if you are busy, you are also busy. (Busy "too") But, for real, delete per the above. Steel1943 (talk) 20:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was speedy delete per WP:G5 by Rsjaffe. (non-admin closure) Steel1943 (talk) 03:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Template:Wikipedia ads single → Template:Wikipedia ads  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Implausible redirect. Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 22:07, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not in use nor is transcluded in any non-XfD pages. Ca ^{talk to me!} 00:04, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Implausible, and I'm not ready to mingle. Steel1943 (talk) 00:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 01:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete without prejudice against the creation of a disambiguation page (which would ideally be a series). -- Tavix ^(talk) 17:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 47th president → Donald Trump  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Ambiguous. 47th President of the United States already exists. MSMST1543 (talk) 21:25, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 22:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep - as far as I can tell the United States is in fact the only country with a 47th president. If I'm wrong then feel free to strike my !vote. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 22:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as ambiguous. Plutarco Elías Calles, Guillermo Lasso, René Barrientos, Ricardo Pérez Godoy, Luis Guillermo Solís, Álvaro Colom, Nicanor Duarte...Latin America seems to go through presidents rather more quickly than the U.S. :) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 06:08, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  @A bit iffy, @Extraordinary Writ, @Fathoms Below, @Ivanvector, @MSMST1543, @Steel1943, Has anyone thought about converting this to a disambiguation page rather than deletion? Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 03:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I don't think this is necessary, and a complete disambiguation page would be very long indeed: there are also 47th presidents of courts and legislatures and universities and charities and bar associations and satirical micronations and who knows what else. (Most of these people aren't usually referred to as the "47th president" standing alone, but I'm not really sure Trump is either.) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 08:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  For our purposes @Extraordinary Writ, my inclusion criteria for “47th president” would only be for heads of state or heads of the government. We could come up with a less ambiguous title though for the disambiguation. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 16:01, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I'm the creator of the original redirect. Although it was only a few weeks ago I cannot actually remember doing this (I create a lot of redirects). Probably I was thinking of people coming across the term "47th president" somewhere and searching for it in Wikipedia to find out what it referred to, it most likely being the US president. Assigning sequential numbers to presidents is something I associate with presidents of the US (I'm not aware of other bodies that do this, but I don't doubt others do). I don't have an opinion on what should be done with the redirect.--A bit iffy (talk) 07:28, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Extraordinary Writ. Fathoms Below (talk) 16:27, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Extraordinary Writ's findings. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 17:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete since the US is younger than countries with almost 100 presidents during their lifetimes. Steel1943 (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Disambiguate – since there’s been multiple 47th presidents; I agree that we shouldn’t be redirecting to Trump. But maybe instead of deleting it; we should turn this into a disambiguation page; that way all 47th presidents can be listed that way. --Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 03:46, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 00:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Nesebu dialect → Amami Ōshima language  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

No mention in target article. No google hits on dialect, except for place existing. Blethering Scot 21:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. This redirect has been changed into an article and exists no longer. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Early Netherlandish painters → Early Netherlandish painting  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

The target article does not contain a list of painters. People looking for a list of painters would be misled, as their query is not giving them a list. People who are familiar with "early netherlandish painters", would already know the base of "early netherlandish painting", so going back to the general article despite seeking a list does not seem to be useful here. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I suppose the article had a list once. This is a case where the most useful thing would be a redirect to Category:Early Netherlandish painters, but there may be a prejudice against that. Johnbod (talk) 00:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep There is a list in the article lead, and this would not be a surprising target. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:53, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• I spun the list out of the ENA article when that page was stubby and before it was expanded. And later changed the list article to a redirect. It could be reverted back to an actual -although uncited- list as it was here, dont feel strongly either way support this as wouldn't be difficult to find citations. Ceoil (talk) 22:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Keep * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:47, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Greek words with English derivatives → English words of Greek origin  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

The target is not a list of Greek words. The target is about English words, and not in a list. People searching for such a list would not find it at the target article, and with the preference of "greek words" being used first, the desire is for an article centralized around Greek words, which is not available. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:46, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note for those interested in WP nostalgia, this has 2001 history. Honestly, one of the strangest page histories I've seen around. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 01:00, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep. The target contains multiple lists of Greek words, so that part of the nomination is incorrect. Any list of English words of Greek origin that notes the original Greek word (as this does) is necessarily also a list of Greek words with English derivatives. The only issue is that the lists are organised by the English word rather than the Greek word. Does that make this misleading or otherwise not useful? I don't think so, but if a better target is available somewhere then it should be retargetted there. Thryduulf (talk) 13:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Inclined towards keeping. Arguably techically inaccurate on some level I suppose, as the page isn't a list article with one large list of Greek words, but, as pointed out above, the page contains lists of Greek words, and the essence of the redirect ("Greek words with English derivatives") is certainly met by the destination (and this seems to be the best target). – Michael Aurel (talk) 22:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Interlingue periodicals → Interlingue literature  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

The phrase "periodical" is not listed at the target article. There is no such list that exists here, and people looking for such a list would be misled by the promise of a "list of periodicals", which is not featured at the target, nor a list or any mention of "Interlingue periodicals" anywhere on Wikipedia, as it seems. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I'm not yet sure what the right call is here. For what it's worth, the target article does talk about the Interlingue magazine Cosmoglotta, and magazines are a type of periodical. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 21:20, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete per nom. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was No consensus on whether to delete or restore, hence defaulting to the latter since deleting something requires an explicit consensus * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:46, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of molecules by year of discovery → Lists of molecules  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

The target list of molecules has no mention of a "year of discovery". Is currently a misleading redirect as this cannot be sorted for in the target article's current state. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment This was previously an article that was created in March 2018 by Zchemic then prodded and endorsed the same day by Graeme Bartlett and Edgar181 respectively. The concern was "This list is going to be useless as there are millions of molecules known, and it will become too massive. The idea of making and discovery of the molecules is also confused". The following day Zchemic redirected the article to the present target. Thryduulf (talk) 12:54, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment – Edgar181 was blocked by Arbcom and is indefinitely site banned on English Wikipedia. No opinion regarding the redirect. Hurricane Clyde 🌀^{my talk page!} 03:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete completely as this is useless as a redirect, and useless as an article. Perhaps in future there could be an article extending History of molecular theory with early discoveries. Anything after the 19th century would be far too much. And in the much earlier times the idea of molecule was less clear, and discoverers did not think they were finding molecules. I think that List of gases could have year of discovery added as a column. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 20:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, this redirect is misleading because it wrongly suggests we have a list of molecules by discovery year. There is a List of drugs by year of discovery linked to at the target article, but that's not the same thing. 🦬 Beefaloe 🦬 06:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Restore and take to Afd if desired. I get WP:NOTBURO, but all we can/should do here is decide that it's not a good redirect, i.e. WP:BLAR was not a good WP:ATD in this case. WP:AFD is the proper venue to decide whether enwiki could/should have a list article like this, after the deprod. Mdewman6 (talk) 07:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Restore per Mdewman6. Thryduulf (talk) 12:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Graeme Bartlett. Restoration should not happen without evidence of notability or arguments that the list may be keepable. Unlike perhaps a couple others, I have faith that RfD participants can figure that out without needing to punt to a second discussion. -- Tavix ^(talk) 13:59, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The point is that RfD participants are not the ones who should be deciding notability, because determining notability is the job of AfD participants. Thryduulf (talk) 20:25, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If there was no chance of it not being deleted at Afd, then yes, we should delete here per WP:SNOWBALL. But that's not the case here. Yes, such a list could never be complete, but enwiki has many such lists, like List of molecules. It never got the chance to be expanded, as it was immediately improperly redirected (improper because if it were deemed we shouldn't have such a list, it was unreasonable to expect anyone searching it to find the information at a different, broader list.) Mdewman6 (talk) 23:56, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Leedsshire → West Yorkshire  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Non plausible search term. Blethering Scot 15:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. Rcsprinter123 (dialogue) 15:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Google doesn't return much however months ago, probably before this was created I did try searching for this and things like Ipswichshire, Chelmsfordshire etc. I did ask someone years ago if there should be "Leedsshire". There may be a problem with this redirect in that Leeds has never been the capital of West Yorkshire or even West Riding of Yorkshire but rather Wakefield so could arguably be Wakefieldshire which may also lead to ambiguity with the former county which arguably could be a target however we would probably prefer the current county. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete its the name of a non-notable sports team (who played a match against the wonderfully named "Leeds Apatheticals") and a couple of local businesses, but everything else is hypothetical (not all for the same thing, e.g. one source described Halifax as the largest and most important place in Leedsshire) or borderline nonsense. Thryduulf (talk) 20:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Survivor 49 → Survivor (American TV series)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• Survivor 50 → Survivor (American TV series)  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

No mention of the 49th or 50th season at the target and, based on the lead, the series is currently only renewed up until the 48th season. As such, the redirects are misleading and WP:TOOSOON. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:38, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE. Unnecessary and too soon. Season 48 hasn’t even debuted yet. Bgsu98 (Talk) 17:09, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Totally WP:TOOSOON. - UtherSRG (talk) 02:03, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 14:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 2030 United States House of Representatives elections → United States presidential election#Comparison with other U.S. general elections  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• 2032 United States House of Representatives elections → United States presidential election#Comparison with other U.S. general elections  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not mentioned at the target at all. The farthest away election mentioned in 2028, making the redirects misleading and WP:TOOSOON. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom, too soon. Give it a couple of years and these can be recreated. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 14:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Way too soon. Besides, 2030 isn't even an applicable election- its either 2028 or 2032.^{removed as I might be wrong} Can be mistaken as a hoax ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Cooldudeseven7 _{join in on the tea talk} 17:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Retarget to good faith * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:43, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Presume good faith → Wikipedia:Assume good faith  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

JPerez90, there's a reason we don't generally make these. See also The five pillars and The Manual of Style. Remsense ‥ 论 05:35, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per WP:XNR and sounding like an encyclopedic subject. Steel1943 (talk) 08:26, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Yep. Steel1943 (talk) 13:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Alternatively, align with Assume good faith. 1234qwer1234qwer4 10:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget to Assume good faith Good faith, where the general topic is covered and there's a hatnote to Wikipedia:Assume good faith. Skynxnex (talk) 13:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC) Update retarget to final destination. Still think it's an acceptable redirect with that target. Skynxnex (talk) 21:13, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak retarget to Good faith given Assume good faith goes there but otherwise could be deleted. Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:50, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗plicit 10:55, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• List of American Athletic Conference Men's Basketball Tournament Finals broadcasters → American Athletic Conference men's basketball tournament  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 
• List of Atlantic 10 Men's Basketball Tournament Finals broadcasters → Atlantic 10 men's basketball tournament  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

No mention of "broadcasters" at the target article. No such list exists at the target. Utopes _{(talk / cont)} 00:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete: Per nom. I don't see the page history being relevant in this case, as I don't expect the articles to ever become notable based on the most recent flurry of list of broadcaster nominations we went through. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:06, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was Delete * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• 2041 Ryder Cup → Ryder Cup  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: //delete ] 

Not mentioned at target. No relevant info there, making this redirect misleading. Delete as WP:TOOSOON. Hey man im josh (talk) 02:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as pointless until we have an article on the event, years from now. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment, there are also 2025 Ryder Cup, which is closer, but still hasn't happened yet, but could get refined to the "Editions" section at least I guess, and 2024 Ryder Cup, which doesn't exist, due to the year shifting, but it was created back in 2018 before that happened, and contains no relevant content, so can safely be deleted. There are a couple more like that, but those existed with more content and were the result of page moves. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 14:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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