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This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on December 17, 2024.

Goth (Silverwing)

This no longer has a mention and the redirect is confusing. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 16:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Sarcenet

an alternate spelling of "sarsenet", a type of silk fabric. unmentioned in the target, though there are mentions of both spellings in other articles (but only two incoming links), and it gets steady views, so maybe there's a more fitting target i'm missing? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:18, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arben Isaraj

This redirect has been proposed for deletion a couple of time using various unsuitable processes like PROD or inadmissible CSDs. However, the corresponding stub on the Albanian Wikipedia has recently been deleted (see sq:Arben Isaraj) and the person here is not mentioned at target and there is no source for their association with the party, so it may be best to delete. —Kusma (talk) 19:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support Τhe fact that we need to discuss, spend other people's time and burden the various procedures for such obvious things is a sign of a bureaucratic mentality that could usefully be avoided. LefterDalaka (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 18:18, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

incomplete-shaped jugemu redirects

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was withdrawn. as it turns out, my brain is full of dumbness. the 255 (or was is 256?) character limit doesn't allow for his full name (non-admin closure) consarn (formerly cogsan) 15:02, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

missing the "chōsuke". if you'll write jugemu jugemu gokō-no surikire kaijarisuigyo-no suigyōmatsu unraimatsu fūraimatsu kuunerutokoro-ni sumutokoro yaburakōji-no burakōji paipo paipo paipo-no shūringan shūringan-no gūrindai gūrindai-no ponpokopī-no ponpokonā-no chōkyūmei-no chōsuke's name, i expect you'll at least have the decency to write the whole thing. get nippon egao hyakkei'd lol cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

oh wait, it's only got 6 characters left until the limit, and ō counts as two. i guess it's a good time to withdraw cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:30, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Adolph Blaine Charles David Earl Frederick Gerald Hubert Irvin John Kenneth Lloyd Martin Nero Oliver Paul Quincy Randolph Sherman Thomas Uncas Victor William Xerxes Yancy Zeus Wolfeschlegel­steinhausen­bergerdorff­welche­vor­altern­waren­gewissenhaft­schafers­wessen­schafe­waren­wohl­gepflege­und­sorgfaltigkeit­beschutzen­vor­angreifen­durch­ihr­raubgierig­feinde­welche­vor­altern­zwolfhundert­tausend­jahres­voran­die­erscheinen­von­der­erste­erdemensch­der­raumschiff­genacht­mit­tungstein­und­sieben­iridium­elektrisch­motors­gebrauch­licht­als­sein­ursprung­von­kraft­gestart­sein­lange­fahrt­hinzwischen­sternartig­raum­auf­der­suchen­nachbarschaft­der­stern­welche­gehabt­bewohnbar­planeten­kreise­drehen­sich­und­wohin­der­neue­rasse­von­verstandig­menschlichkeit­konnte­fortpflanzen­und­sich­erfreuen­an­lebenslanglich­freude­und­ruhe­mit­nicht­ein­furcht­vor­angreifen­vor­anderer­intelligent­geschopfs­von­hinzwischen­sternartig­raum Sr.[just kidding]
Just kidding; Keep per MediaWiki title length limit. 67.209.129.67 (talk) 20:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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sonic cd locations that aren't stardust speedway

either only mentioned in passing or unmentioned. those places (not zones, sonic cd doesn't call them zones) are really as notable on their own as any other zone not named green hill, stardust speedway, or death egg. admittedly a little iffy on metallic madness, though, as it was also in mania cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:54, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bryna

Displace the edit history to Bryna (Polyommatus) and replace with the disambiguation page Bryna (disambiguation) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 17:39, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This should be a move request, not a RFD. I agree that the butterfly isn't a primary topic. Animal subgenera are conventionally put in parentheses following the genus; the redirect should be Polyommatus (Bryna) if following zoological convention. Subgenera may also be written on their own; Bryna has been treated as a genus in the past, and I don't think it is currently even accepted as a subgenus; Bryna (butterfly) would be another way to form the redirect (leaving it ambiguous whether it is being treated as a synonymized genus, accepted subgenus, or synonymized subgenus). Plantdrew (talk) 00:14, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The edit history in question, one about the (sub)genus, will non-sensically, end up at Bryna (disambiguation), or will be deleted, to make way for the disambiguation page. That means we cannot retreive anything if we want to merge anything later, or, will just not make logical sense to anyone examining page histories (why do all these redirects called "(disambiguation)" contain non-disambiguation histories?). Since this article was not deleted, and someone might want to retrieve it later, it should be housed in a sensible location, not at a nonsense location (like "Bryna (version 2)" should the page swap end up with the page history somewhere else) or lost. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:03, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have no objection to moving the edit history to Bryna (butterfly), this also follows Wikipedia convention on disambiguators, where the disambiguator here is "butterfly" instead of the genus. As for "Polyommatus (Bryna)"; the requested name is because this is Wikipedia convention on pagenames. The name indicated being ambiguous is "Bryna", so a WP:parenthetical disambiguation attaches to the term, where the disambiguator is the genus in this case. Thus we get Bryna (Polyommatus). -- Polyommatus (Bryna) would not be a disambiguated redirect, but an alternate name for the topic; though I think it might confuse editors expecting Wikipedia nomenclature instead of zoological one. I agree that such should also be created as a redirect. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 06:25, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Age is just a number

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The result of the discussion was delete. Complex/Rational 16:46, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Not mentioned at the target, and interpreted this way as a general phrase, could just as likely refer to Age disparity in sexual relationships, but it's even more ambiguous, as this tends to be a catch phrase used by older folks as a slogan that life doesn't have to slow down when you get old, as for active seniors, or just people who feel young at heart, etc. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 16:34, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"delete per nom" is just a phrase, then cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 16:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete If a person is searching this phrase up instead of a more conventional search term, then they are most likely looking for information about the phrase itself, which the current target does not provide. Ca talk to me! 01:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. This is a bit of a surprising redirect; the way it's being used is to refer to a tongue-in-cheek joke about relationships with minors, which is different than the ordinary way that this is used (to generally talk about age gaps in relationships, or to comment on someone's appearance). I don't see a good place for this to point, and thus I favor deletion. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:11, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete as per WP:REDYES. This is a common enough English phrase/expression, and it might be worthy of an article one day describing the origins, usage, and so on and so forth, similar to articles such as raining cats and dogs. The meanings and usages of this phrase are numerous, and so we cannot point to a single existing article. Fieari (talk) 04:56, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Child genital mutilation

I was wondering if this is a helpful redirect, as it seems to link a WP:FRINGE and bigoted term to actual people. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:14, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguate with Female genital mutilation, Circumcision, and Transgender youth. I would think Transgender health care misinformation would have some information pertaining to this, but it does not currently. It seems like a common yet vague term. This term is frequently tossed around in right-wing personalities, like Donald Trump and Republican lawmakers Southern Poverty Law Center. Ca talk to me! 01:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2025 SAFF U-16 Women's Championship

No relevant information at the target, making this a misleading redirect for anybody who searches for this. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:12, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Gender delusion

I was wondering if this is a helpful redirect, as it seems to links a WP:FRINGE and bigoted term to a real phenomena. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 16:12, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • For what it's worth, I did mark this as reviewed with the thought process that it's an entirely incorrect term, but it leads to a relevant article about what someone searching the incorrect terminology may have actually been looking for. I recognize it may too non-neutral to be an accepted redirect, and I will mentally recalibrate if this ends up deleted. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:15, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom, but as a note to Hey man im josh: I think that's a reasonable idea and I don't disagree with your thought process. If this does not get deleted, someone please make sure it ends up with a {{R from non-neutral name}}. Tessaract2Hi! 16:30, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
delete, sort of per nom. while non-neutral terms are kind of fine, this really isn't one i can attest to seeing in more places than... here cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:43, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and tag as {{R from non-neutral name}}. This is a pretty common phrase in the TERF and similar transphobic spaces User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:21, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Such a redirect is of no use if the target article doesn't define the term. Nor would this be the appropriate article to define the term in. Maybe Transphobia or Anti-gender movement. But again we'd still need some explanation of what the term means. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 03:34, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chongqing No.1 Middle School

As per WP:RDELETE points 2 and 10, this redirect not only could plausibly be expanded into into an article (See prior edit history), but also creates significant confusion (The primary article linking to this is Chongqing, which this redirects back to, creating a recursive link) - Additionally, there are next to no pageviews (Prior to proposing this redirect be deleted), suggesting that it's not used frequently Gmoat (talk) 16:41, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per WP:RETURNTORED. It redirects to a list with no context, providng very little information for readers. Ca talk to me! 01:34, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reality shows on Suvarna Channel

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The result of the discussion was delete. Hog Farm Talk 14:11, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The target section for these redirects does not exist anymore. Further, there are basically no pageviews, suggesting that the redirects are not used often, if at all. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 13:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Suvarna Channel doesn't exist, and these two redirects are the only time this is ever mentioned in mainspace User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 03:23, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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antiwhatever, helminth

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Helminth protein. Liz Read! Talk! 06:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

same-ish rationale as worms, animals below, but "helminth" refers to parasitic worms, so even if not deleted, it points to the wrong target (and the right one doesn't mention antigens or antibodies). could also be a case of xy, thinking about it cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:35, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The title of this nomination made me chuckle. Further thoughts on retargeting to Helminth protein?
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Relisting comment: Retarget or Delete? Also notified of this discussion at the proposed target.
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Wading bird(s)

Seems to me that these should point to the same target, possibly a disambiguation page. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 16:40, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Target both to Wader? Or to Wader (American)?
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Relisting comment: Same question as the prvious relist.
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Trump nominations for independent agencies

These have significant pre-merge edit history for Political appointments of the first Trump administration, but this title does not differentiate between first or second term. Not sure whether to redirect it to 1st term article or to the disambiguation page. Should we move it to a title mentioning "first presidency" without leaving a redirect? CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 21:41, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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polypifer

refers to organisms formed from polyps, including but not limited to coral. suggest retargeting there. no opinion on the plausibility of the second redirect cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:22, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Archaic term that I see used in older texts to refer to corals. However, what's more relevant for us is Richard Dawkins' book The Ancestor's Tale in which he notes that "coral" is ambiguous between the organisms themselves and the hard stuff their colonies leave behind. He ressurects the older term "polypifer" to refer to the organisms. Thus, it would seem that coral polyp is the optimal target. But that page redirects to the nom's proposed target, which discusses polyps generally, not just those of corals, I think. The problem is that Polyp (zoology) discusses polyps generally, unrestricted to corals while coral discusses much more about corals than the living polyps themselves. Sigh. Refining to Coral#Anatomy could be quite nice, and I think I prefer that target over the nom's proposal, which is my second choice. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 01:32, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and the second redirect is plausible enough. Should follow wherever Polypifer ends up going. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 01:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dating style

seems pretty confusing, what with both words referring to a lot of other things cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:15, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Retarget to Dating (disambiguation)? Or to Calendar date#Date format?
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Camera make

what cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:45, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikiedia

admittedly on the weak side of noms, but could someone also be looking for wikimedia? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:46, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(Keep) It's possible, but much more likely Wikipedia. Even if they aren't, they should see their error, so I don't think a hat note is necessary. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 13:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]
13:13, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

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And the universe said I love you because you are love

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) CycloneYoris talk! 08:58, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think it likely that someone would search for this long of a string even though it's part of the lyrics of the poem. Even if someone was unfamiliar how to search it, it's likely that it would be "because you are love" and variations thereupon. So, I think this redirect should be deleted. DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 07:05, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • And the universe said keep. This line is quoted in full in the article. The use of the "and the universe said" motif is discussed in the article's prose, citing the Irish Independent. And a tattoo of this exact quote appears in the article, a freely-licensed re-shoot of a photo used in Gough's blog post about the poem, which repeatedly invokes (a slightly misquoted version of) the line. I think that's enough to establish the significance of the complete line. (Note: I created the target article, but did not create this redirect.) -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 07:27, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And the universe said "screw the joke-y !keep text i was gonna do because Tamzin beat me to it"
Keep This line is one of, if not the most popular ones in the poem. The only reason I haven't heard of it up until now is because I'm not skilled enough to get to the End without help (let alone defeat the Ender Dragon which is needed in order to get to the poem in the first place) User:Someone-123-321 (I contribute, Talk page so SineBot will shut up) 07:31, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – the whole "not viable search result" argument falls flat considering the quote is likely to pop up on a suggested target when typing the search in. Also, full quote indeed stands in article. BarntToust 12:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Albidovulum xiamenensis

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The result of the discussion was delete. plicit 14:25, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not a recognised synonym of the species it is redirected to. Absent from BacDrive, LPSN, and Uniprot - referenced in target article (which needs to be moved anyway) but seemingly by mistake. Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk | contribs) 01:09, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Breena

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The result of the discussion was disambiguate. Jay 💬 07:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does not generally seem to be the Primary Topic for "Breena". From my searching, it seems to generally refer to a Magic The Gathering character, but in general I can't find much about Breena. Casablanca 🪨(T) 00:03, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Weak disambiguate this term. There's also Breena Clarke and Breena Palmer, which I'm not 100% sure is enough for a disambiguation page. I also can't find anything about Breena the Demagogue (the Magic: The Gathering character in question, who may or may not be worth mentioning on this disambiguation page) or how this name is connected to Sabrina Carpenter other than her playing some characters with that name (I get it, "Breena" might be used as a diminuitive and/or nickname for "Sabrina," but still, I'm not sure how Carpenter is known by that name). I've drafted a disambiguation page below the redirect. Regards, SONIC678 04:28, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate --- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 08:20, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Agreed, disambiguate. For me, a Google Books query for the term doesn't bring up Carpenter at all. Even just the existence of two people with the given name is quite sufficient, because we know there's a contingent of readers who look up names, mostly to get to biographies, but also to learn about the names themselves. --Joy (talk) 14:35, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Disambiguate – not seeing how this falls as a primary topic to Carpenter, much better as a dab which could include her as an entry.--☾Loriendrew☽ (ring-ring) 22:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • disambiguate Sabrina is usually referred by the nicknames sab, sabby or brina- not breena. Might be lead there by a misspelling though 111.65.46.163 (talk) 04:45, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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