Wikipedia:Meetup/Aotearoa New Zealand Online/40
Aotearoa New Zealand Online Meetup 40
- Date: Sunday 20 August 2023
- Time: midday to 2pm
- Location: Virtual Meeting at this link https://meet.jit.si/WikiAotearoa
Note this video conferencing software link will ask permission to use your computer camera and microphone. You will need to agree to get full functionality. Google Chrome or Chromium is recommended for the best experience (not all aspects work correctly with other browsers). The Jitsi web-based video conferencing platform is 100% open source and fully encrypted. No account is needed and it's free. - Cost: Free
Meetup code of conduct and anonymity when meeting via video conference
All attendees are expected to understand and abide by the Universal Code of Conduct.
This video conferencing meetup is a replacement for an in-person meetup. While attending and remaining anonymous is supported by the group, lurking is not supported and will be actively discouraged. All attendees are expected to use their User name as an identifier on the video conference call and to introduce themselves and their interest in joining the call on the chat channel of the call as a minimum. Participation using video and / or voice in addition to Chat is encouraged but not required.
Some members of the group have been the target of cyber bullying in the past and these measures are intended to support creating a safe space for collaboration.
If a new attendee joins the group with video and voice disabled, they will be encouraged to participate by the facilitator, using this script:
- Welcome new attendee. This group respects your right to remain anonymous. This group has a policy of discouraging lurking as it makes some of us uncomfortable. If you are happy to introduce yourself over voice, please let us know what you've been working on and if you need help with any editing issues.
- If you're not comfortable updating the group by voice, then that's okay. You have the option of introducing yourself and adding your user page link into the chat feature. The chat is deleted once the video conference finishes.
- If you want to remain completely anonymous and not chat, then this meetup is not for you. We make comprehensive and extensive notes of the meetup that will be included in the meetup page afterwards. That's the best way to catch up with what this meetup has been doing if you don't want to contribute during the video call.
- If you're not sure how to use the chat feature you can access it by clicking on the icon that looks like a speech bubble in the bottom left corner.
If, after an appropriate length of time, the new attendee does not participate by video, voice, or chat, the facilitator of the group will remove the attendee from the video call.
If the new attendee persists in logging in, the group will discuss abandoning the meet up.
Chat for sharing pastes, URLs and so on
The Jitsi video conferencing platform has a chat feature. This is used to share URLs and other commentary while the discussions are occurring. The facilitators may take a copy to help with writing up outcomes from the meeting on the meeting Wikipedia page. Any copies will be deleted once outcomes and notes are completed.
Future meetups
This is a monthly event running every 4 weeks, but double check the Aotearoa New Zealand Online page to confirm.
Join the Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand to be kept informed.
Also see Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for discussion relevant to New Zealand Wikipedians.
People
Attending
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- Yvanyblog (talk)
- Marshelec (talk)
- David Nind (talk)
- Oronsay (talk)
- Ambrosia10 (talk)
- Gertrude206 (talk)
- Giantflightlessbirds (talk)
- MargaretRDonald (talk)
- Schwede66 (talk)
Unable to come
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- Einebillion (talk) – Away at Wikimania 2023
- Paora (talk)
Agenda and notes
Introduction to meet up by organisers
Wikimedia User Group of Aotearoa New Zealand – update and discussion (15 minutes)
Update from President, WANZ
- Attending Wikimania 2023, 16–19 August in Singapore
Update from Treasurer, WANZ
- Work during the past month has included preparing presentations on Importance of articles, and a proposed carbon foot print policy for the WANZ committee strategy weekend on 22–23 July, and participating in the strategy weekend. Have also commissioned a new online accounting system for WANZ (using Xero), published a call for proposals for the planned Wikipedian-at-Large project 2023–24, prepared the final outturns for the General Support Grant 2022–2023, and developed a draft application for Chapter status to the Wikimedia Affiliations Committee. Other work has involved administering two grant applications for travel to Wikimania 2023, and two travel grants for attendances at conferences.Marshelec (talk) 00:00, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
Wikimania 2023 – Pasifika group performance
- A Pasifika group attended Wikimania 2023 in Singapore this week, with support from WANZ. They gave a 25 minute performance on the main stage on 17 August. Their performance was recorded and can be viewed at this link.
Wiki-Con Weekends, Editathons, Events and Outreach in 2023
- Don't forget to add your program to the Campaign Dashboard. The Dashboard is a key tracking tool for reporting back to Wikimedia Foundation and will help us ensure that we get funding in future years. If you are unsure how to add programs to the Campaign dashboard contact: Ambrosia10 (talk) on her talk page
- New Zealand Wikidata Thesis Project aims to get New Zealand dissertations into Wikidata. Project Page, Project Dashboard. There is a google spreadsheet of theses authors with Wikipedia pages who need their theses adding to their page if folk want to work on this during #1Lib1Ref.
- New information: Video on how to add thesis to people's pages has been completed.
- Project Contacts: DrThneed, Giantflightlessbirds and Ambrosia10
- 2023 Annual Wikidata Fellowship Grant One New Zealand and two Australian fellowships available. Applications opened on 9 January and closed on Sunday 26 February 2023. Check out the Annual Wikidata Fellowship Grant fellowship grant page for more details.
- 2023 August 16–19 Wikimania, Singapore and online The application process for scholarship to attend has closed. [Registration] is now open for both inperson and virtual participants.
- Other suggestions for themes around events include Library Week, Conservation Week, International Volunteers Day, 24hr editathon for Ada Lovelace Day, WikiSource Women's History Month for Wikisource, Winter Olympics, Matariki Event, Library Week. We should think about the focus of the work – is it to onboard folk or to focus on content. Any further update?
- Anything to update / discuss?
Round table for participants
Opportunity to say what you’re working on and if you need help to do anything or want anything demonstrated. You can add requests for help here prior to the meeting if you want
- Giantflightlessbirds joined us from Singapore after attending Wikimania 2023. Activities over the past month have included work commissioned by institutions, and a tramp on the Haast to Paringa Cattle Track. Stand-out impressions from Wikimania include the presentation by Canley on tools to expedite the resolution of the very large number of incorrect geographic location data that were created by a bot linked to the Cebuano Wikipedia. See details in the section below. Canley is focussed on New Zealand as a good place to develop the technique, because of the LINZ data that is available. Editors have been manually correcting entries to date, but this is highly laborious. Progress is around 35% at present, so Canley is targetting the remaining 65%. Geographic location information for New Zealand rivers and streams is the top priority, followed by mountains. There is potential for global application of the process he has developed, and there was wide interest in his presentation.
- Oronsay has continued work on the NZ Thesis project and has now matched more than 1,000 theses with their student authors. For universities such as Massey that don't provide metadata on supervisors she has manually added thesis committee member to the thesis and also linked the author to supervisors. She recently wrote her 450th woman's bio. Continues to merge duplicates on Wikidata and general Wikipedia gardening.
- Gertrude206 has been working on hospitals: Green Lane Hospital, Auckland, National Women's Hospital, and Wellington Hospital, New Zealand which was badly in need of improvement. Also created articles on Strike (percussion group), the University of Auckland Festival Choir and Peter Godfrey (choral conductor). Asked if anyone would be willing to tidy up the article on Ewen McQueen - add and fix references.
- MargaretRDonald has been working on a large number of significant gaps in Wikidata entries about cultural items in Korea. There are major gaps in basic parameters such as "Instance of" that prevent effective use of the data. These anomalies were uncovered during the judging of international entries for a photo competition. She gave a remote Wikimania 3023 talk about her work in addressing these deficiencies.
- Schwede66 has been busy with IRL work, but continues to administer the Wikipedia home page, helps out at WP:ITN and WP:DYK, and is helping two prospective admins to prepare for requesting admin status.
- Yvanyblog shared some details of work on improvements to New Zealand articles.
- David Nind has been active in Wikisource, and in particular on works that are part of the West Coast Wikisource project. Current activity includes preparing to finalise an historic work about Richard John Seddon - some pages in the source scan need updating, which will require re-validation of several pages.
- Ambrosia10 joined us from Singapore, where she had attended Wikimania 2023, and been recognised with the prestigious Wikimedia Laureate award for 2023. Her award citation is here: [1]. She has submitted a paper for the TWDG Biodiversity Information Standards conference to be held in Hobart from 9-13 October. Other activity includes work on a paper on plant genera named after women. She is also considering an opportunity associated with Biodiversity Heritage Library (BHL) Australia, and collaborating on an initiative to develop university course material.
- Marshelec has been working on Good article reviews:
- shared in the responses to the GA review of Matiu / Somes Island, nominated by Wainuiomartian and reviewed by Jonathanischoice (article has now passed) :)
- led the GA review of Malvern Railway Station, Melbourne (eventually got this to pass)
- invited Jonathanischoice to undertake GA review of Tellico Dam, and then supported the process until it was passed (third time lucky for this article that I had previously failed)
- led the GA reviews of Serpent (instrument) and Soprano trombone – both nominated by Jonathanischoice (both articles have now passed) :)
- Other work includes major expansion of Bushy Park Homestead (after my wife and I stayed there recently), expanding Wharves in Wellington Harbour and CentrePort Wellington, some minor work on several articles related to the weekly RNZ programme Critter of the Week, and supporting a new editor with a biographical article Violet Bowring.
Review of questions raised during round table
Further discussion
- Oronsay asked for help with:
- updating New Zealand Book Awards for Children and Young Adults with the 2022 and 2023 winners. The table has to be edited in Source and the formatting is complex. She has struggled with it in the past but it is really tedious. David Nind volunteered to take a look.
- Justine Smith: Is she the same person as Justine Smith on IMdB? – Decision was inconclusive so will not add to Wikipedia or Wikidata.
- Wikidata entry for Lake Rotomakariri, an historic lake.
Links to useful Wikimania 2023 presentations
Links to some talks that participants at today's meeting found useful:
- User:Canley: Duplicating Everywhere All at Once demonstrating the way he has developed to identify and merge duplicates caused by a bot in Ceb Wikipedia and subsequently Wikidata with incorrect coordinates.
- User:DrThneed: A Nation's Dissertations: The New Zealand Thesis Project (from 2:23:48)
- User:Diegodlh: Collaboratively fixing automatic citations in Wikipedia with Web2Cit (from 4:22.03) and Web2Cit for script and user instructions.
Outcomes
- Add anything you worked on or learned during the meetup.
- There is a large number of Wikipedia Infobox templates that can automatically receive and publish data fetched from Wikidata. A (not 100% complete) list of the templates that can use parameters from Wikidata is in this category: en:Category:Infobox templates using Wikidata. Using these automatic features can save time in creating an Infobox about a taxon (for example), or a person, but more importantly helps to achieve a "single source of truth".Marshelec (talk) 05:35, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- On a related theme, using en:Template:Automatic taxobox is recommended instead of the "manual" en:Template:Speciesbox, because the automatic version will be updated by any change in the taxonomic hierarchy, and avoid having an infobox with stranded, out-of-date taxonomic classification.Marshelec (talk) 05:35, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
- Wikidata - reasons for statement rankings: you can add reason for preferred rank (P7452) and reason for deprecated rank (P2241) as qualifiers when changing the ranking for statements. There are controlled lists for reasons for the rankings: list of Wikidata reasons for preferred rank (Q76637123) and list of Wikidata reasons for deprecation (Q52105174).
- Organisation time: 1 hr doing notes, 1.5 h adding info after meeting
Next meeting and meetup timetables
- 17 September 2023, same time, same place