Archived discussion for July 2005 from Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates.

• STS-114: NASA announces that the mission will be extended for one day, so that Discovery's crew can assist the Expedition 11 crew in maintenance tasks on-board the International Space Station. --Kitch 23:07, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe we should hold off on another Shuttle story till it lands. The announcement that the mission will be extended one day is not really unusual at all.--Pharos 23:49, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I agree. There is enough going on on planet earth without a day by day account of the trials and tribulations of an American space shuttle. FearÉIREANN\^(caint) 00:55, 31 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• I just wanted to note... shouldn't we mention that the 21 July 2005 London bombings suspects were captured in Rome? --Kitch 20:25, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, one was captured in Birmingham, two in London, and one in Rome. It would be a mouthful to put all that on ITN.--Pharos 23:47, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• In India, the death toll in the 2005 Maharashtra floods rises to over 800. -- 199.71.174.100 02:54, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Done. - BanyanTree 06:31, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Astronomers have discovered a large new Kuiper Belt object, tentatively named 2003 EL61. Depending on albedo, 2003 EL61 potentially has twice the radius of Pluto. Thue | talk 15:41, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Added, see if you can find a graphic (the one the BBC has might work). --Dante Alighieri | Talk 18:08, July 29, 2005 (UTC)

• Let's use for the blurb about Northern Ireland on ITN right now, shall we ? The current image doesn't go with the top news item. -- 199.71.174.100 01:21, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Possibly one of these murals from Commons would be better. In particular a central crop from Image:Derry_mural_9.jpg. These are of course politically loaded, so care needs to be taken. -- Solipsist 10:04, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • The detail from the wide wall of murals doesn't work, but this one might. File:Derry murals 5 detail.jpg -- Solipsist 10:46, 29 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Space Shuttle Discovery lifts off at 10:39 EDT from Kennedy Space Center on mission STS-114, the first space shuttle mission since the Columbia disaster on February 1, 2003. --Jpo 15:08, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

Shucks, I was beaten. :) --Golbez 15:15, July 26, 2005 (UTC)

the first spaceflight since the Columbia disaster in 2003

This is wrong and should be removed ASAP. There have been several other spaceflights since then (e.g. Soyuz TMA-5 in October 2004). Ben Arnold 16:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've found a whole bunch of other spaceflights since Columbia:

• 26 April 2003 Soyuz TMA-2
• 15 October 2003 Shenzhou 5
• 18 October 2003 Soyuz TMA-3
• 19 April 2004 Soyuz TMA-4
• 14 October 2004 Soyuz TMA-5
• 15 April 2005 Soyuz TMA-6

It's frustrating that false information has been put in the News section and the page is protected. Ben Arnold 16:51, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Can we have "... the first U.S. spaceflight since ..." changed to "... the first NASA spaceflight since ...", please ? -- 64.229.206.3 18:00, 26 July 2005 (UTC) And I don't think we need a hyphen in "lifts-off". -- 64.229.32.127 18:52, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Prime Minister Helen Clark of New Zealand calls a general election for September 17. -- 199.71.174.100 01:19, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The setting of a date for the election is not of sufficient importance for ITN. Maybe it would be if it was a snap election, but this is one of the most expected dates. We should certainly have the election itself here on September 17, and the results on September 18.-gadfium 03:18, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it's not a surprise, but we haven't had much from that part of the world lately. Let's not leave them out. This was apparently the top news item there yesterday, as it is now on the ITN at Wikipedia:Wikiportal/New Zealand. Also, I would suggest an update of ITN with something for the sake of an update. I'd rather have the earthquake, or the Philippine electoral crisis, 2005, but we need well updated articles. An alternative would be the Guinea-Bissau presidential election, 2005, but I'd wait for the pending results in a few days. This suggestion was made in response to a complaint at Talk:Main Page#Update the news section regularly. Please re-consider. Thanks. -- 199.71.174.100 04:56, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's updated with something! -- 199.71.174.100 21:45, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• 2005 Tour de France: Lance Armstrong of the Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team wins his 7th consecutive Tour de France and plans to retire from bicycle racing. -- 199.71.174.100 18:41, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks, Solipsist, for posting. -- 199.71.174.100 20:30, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • The bicycle racing wiki should be bicycle racing (actually referencing road bicycle racing), since plain bicycle racing is a disambiguation page of sorts, and in the context of Lance Armstrong, road bicycle racing is the meaning intended. --Serge 17:46, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Is Lance moving on to other (non-road) bicycle racing ? -- 64.229.32.127 18:55, 26 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A plane crashed close to the German parliament (Bundestag) and Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's office. See http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-germany-plane-crash,1,7523308.story?coll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

The current In the News says "following yesterday's abortive bombing attempts..." Didn't the bombs actually go off? (ie they were not attempts, nor abortive). The section should read "following yesterday's bombings on the London Underground..." Kaisershatner 18:18, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Only the detonators, not the devices themselves, exploded with the bombers then fleeing the scene. I think that qualifies as an abortive attempt. Ddye 20:28, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• In Germany, President Horst Köhler dissolves the Bundestag, paving the way for the federal election on September 18. -- 199.71.174.100 08:24, 22 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• New explosions in the London Underground.
• The Chinese government announces a 2 percent revauluation of its currency, the yuan, and says the yuan will no longer be pegged to the US dollar, instead trading within a narrow range against a market basket of currencies.

• James Doohan, best known for playing the character Montgomery Scott in the Star Trek TV series and movies, died of pneumonia and Alzheimer's Disease at 85. --Kitch 16:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• After killing at least four people in the Caribbean, Hurricane Emily slams into the Yucatán Peninsula. Tens of thousands of residents and tourists in Mexico and were evacuated from the beach resorts in and around Cancún and Cozumel in the state of Quintana Roo. -- 64.229.206.159 12:13, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for posting so quickly, User:BanyanTree. -- 64.229.206.159 12:53, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• In Taiwan, Ma Ying-jeou defeats Wang Jin-pyng in the first direct election for chairmanship in the 110-year history of the Kuomintang. -- (added now, 'coz there is so much room on the right side of the Front Page) 64.229.206.159 12:40, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • The KMT, formed in 1912, should be 93 years old, not 110. Sorry. I've fixed the articles, but I need a sysop to fix the MainPage, please. -- 64.229.206.159 13:13, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done. Morwen - Talk 13:19, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• The English language edition of the Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is released first at midnight local time across the UK, Ireland and North America. International releases follow later on the same day.

pamri 04:41, July 16, 2005 (UTC)

Time to do a Karl Rove story. The latest news [1] is that an undisclosed New York times source claims that Rove admitted to investigators to have talked to columnist Robert Novak, shortly before Novak publicized the name of Valerie Plame. In the past weeks, it was revealed that Rove told Times reporter Matthew Cooper that "Wilson's wife" was a CIA agent, but until today it was not clear if Rove had ever talked directly to Novak. The report, if confirmed will substantiate both the claims of Rove's misconduct, accidental or deliberate, and further implicate the White House and perhaps even its appointed investigator. -SV|t 01:28, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• This is a U.S. story with somewhat limited international interest, so we probably wouldn't want to put it up more than once. I think it might be best to wait a few days on this one, as events are movingly rapidly and it seems likely there will be at least some sort of a "confession" (if not resignation) on Rove's part soon.--Pharos 02:02, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• The National Hockey League labor dispute, the longest work stoppage in North American professional sports, ends after 301 days.

We have too much room on the right side of the Main Page, how about sticking this in somewhere on ITN ? -- 199.71.174.100 06:50, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Thanks for posting so quickly, Golbez. -- 199.71.174.100 07:42, 15 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• While I do enjoy hockey, and this is important, what with everything it affects, they still have not officialy ended the lockout. After its ratified would be a better time to announce it, which should happen sometime next week. Kaiser Matias 18:05 15 July 2005 (UTC)

• Fair enough. Fits my own criteria for elections and voting I suppose. But I'm sure someone will revert me sans reason rather quickly. --Golbez 18:19, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

Awesome.The deal has rammifications within hockey and the other NA pro sports... like the MLB... now the only one w/o a (long overdue) salary cap. --Madchester 20:51, July 15, 2005 (UTC)

• Due to faulty fuel-tank sensors, NASA delays the launch of Space Shuttle Discovery in mission STS-114, the first manned space launch by NASA since the loss of Columbia in 2003. -- revised by 64.229.223.38 18:15, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• British police announce that the London bombings which killed 52 people and injured about 700 people on July 7 were carried out by four suicide bombers, all suspects were British citizens from Leeds. -- revised by 64.229.223.38 17:49, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • One of the suspects was from Aylesbury, not Leeds. --Moochocoogle 22:15, 14 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Prince Albert II formally assumes the throne in the Principality of Monaco, succeeding his father, the late Prince Rainier III, at the end of the three-month mourning period. -- 64.229.5.159 14:06, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for posting this, User:Rdsmith4. I like your shortened version better. -- 64.229.223.38 18:36, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Acting President Kurmanbek Bakiyev scores a landslide victory in the presidential election in Kyrgyzstan. -- 64.229.6.148 02:03, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for posting it, User:MacGyverMagic. -- 64.229.227.66 05:36, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• My pleasure. - Mgm|^(talk) 19:27, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

• World leaders at the 31st G8 summit held in Gleneagles, Scotland pledge US$50 billion in aid to fight poverty in Africa. -- Harro5 July 9, 2005 10:18 (UTC) -- revised by 64.229.229.159 9 July 2005 18:20 (UTC)
  • I'd love to add it but I don't see a properly updated article here. --Golbez July 9, 2005 17:21 (UTC)
    • Is this better now ? -- 64.229.229.159 9 July 2005 18:20 (UTC) Nope.... Not on Current events, either.... -- 64.229.229.159 9 July 2005 18:33 (UTC)
      • The article has been updated. See Results of the summit. Harro5 10:47, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
        • I've added this to Current events. Can someone add the newslinks there, please ? -- 65.95.107.117 00:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        • A newslink has been added now. Wanna mention the US$3 billions for Palestine in the blurb on ITN as well ? -- 64.229.206.179 05:02, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Item was added to main page. Mgm|^(talk) 08:22, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • Please fix ALT text. The red area in the map now on ITN is not Southern Scotland, but the entire Scotland. Perhaps [[Image:Map_of_Scotland_within_the_United_Kingdom.png|none|100px|Map marking southern Scotland]] should be changed to [[Image:Map of_Scotland within the United Kingdom.png|100px|Map marking Scotland within the United Kingdom]] ? Thanks. -- 64.229.220.38 14:06, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

that's true i think the main image should be replace with the one of the world leaders instead of the map of scotland. after all, it's them pledging the aid, not scotland

I agree. But right now, the Flag of Kyrgyzstan would be even better. :-) -- 64.229.227.66 04:04, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Hurricane Dennis, the first hurricane of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, has killed at least 10 people in Cuba, and is heading towards the Gulf Coast of the United States. 82.33.138.198 9 July 2005 11:01 (UTC)
  • Posted. (Or rather, existing entry edited) --Golbez July 9, 2005 17:21 (UTC)
    • Is it possible to use an older version of Image:Dennis 2005 Track.gif which also shows Cuba in red ? The updated version is not as informative. -- 64.229.229.159 9 July 2005 18:31 (UTC)
      • How is having accurate information less informative? Cuba is no longer under a hurricane warning. It no longer should be in red. --Golbez July 9, 2005 18:50 (UTC)
        • Accuracy is not the issue. As the blurb mentions damages in Cuba, it would be nice to show Cuba in the figure, without the scale bar covering the island. If Haiti is shown as well, so much the better... Never mind, we have a different pic now... -- 64.229.221.159 07:55, 10 July 2005 (UTC) P.S. I meant being informative about the track. -- 64.229.206.179 05:23, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Here's an update: Hurricane Dennis, after killing 22 people in Haiti and 10 in Cuba, makes landfall in the U.S. Gulf Coast and slams into the Florida Panhandle. -- 64.229.206.179 05:23, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• A documentary film made of footage filmed during the Yugoslav wars, showing war crimes commited over Serbs, is introduced in the Sava Center in Belgrade, sparking public outrage in Serbia. Nikola 18:04, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • The wikipage with the bolded link, i.e. Yugoslav wars, needs to be updated with the relevant info. -- 65.95.107.117 23:29, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, if the film is encyclopedic, then it should have an article, and that should be bolded instead. The Current events page holds its name -- "The Truth (movie)" (Istina). --Joy [shallot] 22:26, 13 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Potential path of Hurricane Dennis as of 11am EDT 8 July 05

• Hurricane Dennis, the first hurricane of the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season, approaches Cuba, heading towards the Gulf Coast of the United States. -- 64.229.205.2 8 July 2005 16:37 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your speedy posting, Rdsmith4. :-) -- 64.229.205.2 8 July 2005 16:57 (UTC) Please be reminded to protect the image on the FrontPage. Thanks. -- 64.229.205.2 8 July 2005 17:14 (UTC)

Typo, should be: "The attack comes less than 24 hours after the city won the nomination to host the 2012 Summer Olympics." – Smyth\^talk 7 July 2005 19:30 (UTC)

"The attack comes less than 24 hours after London's winning the contract" - Typo? No, it's just a different (and equally correct) wording. — Dan | Talk 7 July 2005 19:47 (UTC)

I was referring to the previous wording. It's fine now. – Smyth\^talk 7 July 2005 19:51 (UTC)

The European Parliament rejects the proposed Directive on the patentability of computer-implemented inventions by a 648-14 vote with 18 abstentions, ending four years of intense debate and lobbying.

Why the hell not, posted. It's also a rather good article, which helps. --Golbez July 6, 2005 14:23 (UTC)

• In tennis, Roger Federer beats Andy Roddick to win his third successive Wimbledon men's singles title, and Venus Williams defeats Lindsay Davenport to win the women's title.
  • Doesn't look good to feature the guys but not the gals in 2005 Wimbledon. Wikipedia is not run by male chauvinists, eh ? :-) -- 199.71.174.100 4 July 2005 05:44 (UTC)
    • Right now, there is a lot of space on the right side of the Front Page to include the ladies' final. Please add. The ladies' final, the longest women's Wimbledon final of all time according to 2005 Wimbledon, was a better game to watch, too. -- 64.229.4.122 4 July 2005 13:55 (UTC)
    • Thanks, Phils. -- 64.229.6.103 4 July 2005 17:00 (UTC)
  • "(at right)" is no longer relevant

• Cooper Documents reveal that one of the two sources in the Valerie Plame exposure scandal was Karl Rove, president George W. Bush's chief political advisor. (Wikinews) (TIME Magazine) (Editor & Publisher) (The Huffington Post) posted here by Kevin Baas^talk: July 3, 2005 16:14 (UTC)
  • It's not something that is widely known in the world. Here in Canada, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who even knew what this is about, myself included. And I spend a lot of time looking up international news. Kaiser Matias 23:39 3 July 2005 (UTC)
    • No proper article update: Cooper Documents is a red link, Valerie Plame has a single mention from Larry O'Donnell of MSNBC (All other mentions of Rove are two years old), Matthew Cooper has no mention of it, and Karl Rove has no mention of it. Try again please. --Golbez July 4, 2005 01:18 (UTC)
      • FWIW, I have shifted my focus to wikinews, so i'm primarily relying on others on wikipedias to stay on top of things like this. If I update Valerie Plame or an article on the Supreme Court case (if there is one, which there should be) will this item be reconsidered, and if not, why not? Kevin Baas^talk: July 4, 2005 13:44 (UTC)
        • I suppose it would be reconsidered (that Wikinews article looks quite good, btw), I'd think the best place would be to have an article on the documents themselves, or update Plame. Is this public record yet, though, or is this just Larry O'Donnell's raving? --Golbez July 4, 2005 20:11 (UTC)

• Live 8 concerts are taking place in each of the G8 countries around the world with the message calling for an end to world poverty.
  • Biggest musical event ever, might deserve to be on the Main Page I guess... Dan100 (Talk) July 2, 2005 15:47 (UTC)
    • It's a shame not to see Live 8 not on the Main Page yet. Never before has there been something this big happening, with an estimated audience of 5 billion. Kaiser Matias 15:57 2 July (UTC)
      • 83% of the whole world population is going to this concert? That deserves to be on the Main Page without a doubt! ;-) — Timwi 2 July 2005 18:22 (UTC)

• American R&B singer Luther Vandross dies at the age of 54, from complications of a stroke.
  • Very popular musician over the course of a two-decade career in music. Currently confirmed breaking news at cnn.com [2]. --FuriousFreddy 1 July 2005 23:01 (UTC)
    • Well, now they have an article. --FuriousFreddy 1 July 2005 23:05 (UTC)
  • Support this one. This is a name known around the world, is covered well in the article, and the news item could take very little space if necessary. Deco 2 July 2005 21:40 (UTC)
  • See yesterday's furor over Sandra Day O'Connor. Today's the wrong day for "dead U.S. musician" to try and make the front page. –Hajor 2 July 2005 21:51 (UTC)
• Sandra Day O'Connor submits her letter of resignation from the U.S. Supreme Court, the first resignation in over ten years, effective when her successor is confirmed.
  • I offer this because I feel the post there now is inadequately worded. --Kitch 1 July 2005 15:02 (UTC)

• Germany's parliament is due to hold a vote of confidence. Chancellor Gerhard Schröder wants to lose it to trigger new elections.
  • Now that he's lost, I've posted it. Best to point the link to the elections rather than our (rather poor) Schröder biography, I think - should this be on expansion requests? David | Talk 1 July 2005 12:06 (UTC)
    • How about this pic of Gerhard Schröder from the Commons ? (on the right, the one on the left is {{unverified}}.)-- 64.229.177.151 1 July 2005 12:48 (UTC)
      • Thanks - done. David | Talk 1 July 2005 14:08 (UTC)