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I don't think this should have passed as a good article and I have to say the initial review was pretty perfunctory. Basic facts about the subject - date of birth and place of birth - are unsourced. Criteria 3 (broad coverage) is definitely not met. An apparent six-year period as the country's foreign and defence minister is sourced to a dead link and no information about this period other than the duration of his term is included. The section about his six-year prime ministership is also brief, with no coverage of elections or his relationship with the King, and no attention to policy matters/issues other than some quotes from opposition MPs which has WP:NPOV. The "Dismissal of government" has neutrality issues in the opposite direction, with one-sided criticism of PM ʻAkilisi Pōhiva; it is not mentioned that Pōhiva was immediately re-elected to the position. The eruption/tsunami section is also incomplete, with a single sentence mentioning his departure from the royal palace but no indication of his role in the disaster or what happened afterward. There is a general overreliance on primary sources (a dead link to the UK Style section of Yahoo!, IMDB [??] and no use at all of anything approaching an academic/scholarly source - where brief searches on Google Books and Google Scholar return multiple relevant mentions/analyses. While GA standards are lower than those of the FA, I feel like outside of a few sections there has been quite shallow engagement with the subject and makes me wonder what else has been missed - nothing from the COVID period for instance? In its present form the article is just not up to scratch. I T B F 📢 16:04, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I reviewed this article for GA in 2023 and quickfailed it, largely on Criteria #3 (breadth). At the time, I listed a bunch of potential sources for expansion. A few of those have been used, and the article has been expanded since then. However, if I were looking at it with fresh eyes today, I would still be skeptical. Tonga is a small country, but Tupou VI has been both head of state and government at times; he's probably the most prominent living Tongan and it's not impossible to find coverage in reliable sources. From what I see of the most recent review, Mike Christie did a thorough spot-check on the existing sources. I'd be curious to hear your thoughts on breadth, Mike. ITBF's comments seem reasonable. —Ganesha811 (talk) 16:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can't swear that I recall my thinking at the time of the review, but as far as I can remember, I did make some brief searches for other information and came up with nothing obvious, and decided that the gaps in coverage probably reflected the sources. (That is, broad coverage doesn't mean insisting on coverage that there is no source for.) I'm entirely willing to believe there is such coverage and I missed it, but I am pretty sure I did spend a little time looking. The lack of a source for the birthdate is a mistake on my part; I should have noticed that. Dead links are not an issue for GAN, perhaps surprisingly (see this discussion for my attempt to change that); because of that restriction, what I typically do is pick some random citations to spotcheck, and if they come up dead then I ask for verification which usually means replacing the dead link. If a dead link isn't picked for spotchecking then my understanding is a reviewer is not supposed to complain about it (though if I notice them I often let the nominator know, making sure I flag it as an optional fix). Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:05, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All makes sense, Mike. @ITBF, could you share a few of the best reliable sources you've found that contain important information missing in our article? —Ganesha811 (talk) 18:15, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I, the original nominator of the article, added sources for date and place of birth. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:59, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also please ping me if I have anything else specific I need to do. History6042😊 (Contact me) 21:17, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! History6042, there were five academic sources I listed at the very bottom of /GA1. As far as I can see none of them have been incorporated. I would recommend going through those and adding content where possible to up the rigor of the sourcing and expand coverage. —Ganesha811 (talk) 01:34, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]