Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 28
January 28
Category:Otidiphabinae
- Propose merging Category:Otidiphabinae to Category:Columbidae
- Nominator's rationale: Otidiphabinae is a monogeneric subfamily. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Claravis (bird)
- Propose merging Category:Claravis (bird) to Category:Columbidae
- Nominator's rationale: Claravis is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:35, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Noddies (tern)
- Propose merging Category:Noddies (tern) to Category:Anous
- Nominator's rationale: These categories are overlapping – noddy is the common name for members of the genus Anous. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Stiltia
- Propose merging Category:Stiltia to Category:Glareolidae
- Nominator's rationale: Stiltia is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:16, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Chionidae
- Propose merging Category:Chionidae to Category:Chionidi
- Nominator's rationale: Chionidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Ibidorhynchidae
- Propose merging Category:Ibidorhynchidae to Category:Charadrii
- Nominator's rationale: Ibidorhynchidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Haematopodidae
- Propose merging Category:Haematopodidae to Category:Charadrii
- Nominator's rationale: Haematopodidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Upupidae
- Propose merging Category:Upupidae to Category:Upupi
- Nominator's rationale: Upupidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Bucorvidae
- Propose merging Category:Bucorvidae to Category:Buceroti
- Nominator's rationale: Bucorvidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Rhinoplax
- Propose merging Category:Rhinoplax to Category:Bucerotidae
- Nominator's rationale: Rhinoplax is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:56, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Fictional alchemists
This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_10#Category:Fictional_witches_and_wizards.
Just because someone using magic used some material components, editors label them "alchemists". This is WP:OR.
To quote: Alchemy in art and entertainment: "In twentieth and twenty-first century examples, alchemists are generally presented in a more romantic or mystic light, and often little distinction is made between alchemy, magic, and witchcraft. Alchemy has become a common theme in fantasy fiction."
And many of the characters already are in other subcats of the target (WP:OVERLAPCAT). - jc37 20:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as nom. - jc37 20:11, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Sports venues in Egypt by populated place
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT User:Namiba 19:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:37, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Fictional summoners
This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_10#Category:Fictional_witches_and_wizards. - jc37 19:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as nom. - jc37 19:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Question, do the articles really belong in Category:Fictional characters who use magic even while that is the parent category? Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. For example, there are magic-using villains, magic-using creatures (like oni), and anime Magical girls. Once merged, they can be diffused to subcats (and subcats of subcats, etc.), if/as appropriate. - jc37 11:54, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hemiprocnidae
- Propose merging Category:Hemiprocnidae to Category:Apodiformes
- Nominator's rationale: Hemiprocnidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:41, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Albums arranged by Spencer Dryden
- Propose deleting Category:Albums arranged by Spencer Dryden ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: It's usually jazz or orchestral albums that are heavily reliant on arrangements, and the one article in this category only mentions Dryden as responsible for horn arrangements in the credits section. It seems that that wouldn't be any more defining to the album than Dryden being the drummer on the album. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 19:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Palaeospheniscinae
- Propose merging Category:Palaeospheniscinae to Category:Spheniscidae
- Nominator's rationale: Palaeospheniscinae is a monogeneric subfamily. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Tolkien book characters
Per other cats in Category:Characters in fantasy novel series of the 20th century and Category:Characters in British novels of the 20th century, etc.
And to match Category:The Lord of the Rings characters.
This could probably have been a speedy rename, but I thought I'd add them here, in case there were any concerns. - jc37 17:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename all - as nom. - jc37 17:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Willy Wonka
- Propose merging Category:Willy Wonka to Category:Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
- Nominator's rationale: Seemingly a case of WP:OVERLAPCAT. (Oinkers42) (talk) 17:12, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - Category:Willy Wonka characters should be renamed as well. - jc37 20:46, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Charlie and the Chocolate Factory in popular culture. I think there's still a category left, even when removing members of Category:Works based on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. - jc37 20:46, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Charmed (TV series) witches
Per WP:OVERLAPCAT - Most of the category members are already members of the parent. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/Delete - as nominator. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Fictional magic characters in comics
- Merge Category:DC Comics witches to Category:DC Comics characters who use magic
- Merge Category:Marvel Comics witches to Category:Marvel Comics characters who use magic
- Delete Category:Fictional witches by franchise
- Merge Category:DC Comics wizards to Category:DC Comics characters who use magic
- Merge Category:Marvel Comics wizards to Category:Marvel Comics characters who use magic
- Delete Category:Fictional wizards by franchise
This is a follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_September_10#Category:Fictional_witches_and_wizards. And as per Magician (fantasy), these terms are used disparately and subjectively by authors - in some cases the only similarity between the characters is the name.
Many of the first 2 categories' entries are merely female characters who use magic, that editors then decide to categorise as "witches". Similar thing with the wizard cats and male magic-users. It's WP:OR.
And it's also WP:OVERLAPCAT, as many are also in the targets. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/Delete - as nominator. - jc37 17:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Michael Stipe
- Propose deleting Category:Michael Stipe ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON, this can be handled by the "Works by" tree as only one other article to consider. --woodensuperman 15:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Peter Buck
- Propose deleting Category:Peter Buck ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:OCEPON, this can be handled by the "Works by" tree as only one other article to consider. --woodensuperman 15:08, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:50, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:CKY
- Propose splitting Category:CKY to Category:CKY and Category:CKY crew
- Nominator's rationale: Individuals should be in a separate category per WP:COPSEP, would suggest it should match the article CKY crew. Alternatively, they could be purged, as this could be a WP:PERFCAT issue. --woodensuperman 14:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
22nd-century decades
- Propose deleting Category:2100s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2100s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2110s (1 C, 2 P)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2110s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2120s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2120s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2130s (1 C, 1 P); add the article to Category:22nd century
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2130s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2140s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2140s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2150s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2150s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2160s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2160s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2170s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2170s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2180s (1 C, 1 P)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2180s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:2190s (1 C)
- Propose deleting Category:Fiction set in the 2190s (1 C)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, two redundant category layers, diffusion by decade is only useful for the lower "works set in decade" level. Apart from one article (in the 2130s) there is no need to merge, the content is already in other 22nd-century subcats. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:49, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. This is too far in the future to gather enough articles — I checked the eclipses as well, and the four articles are all from different decades. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:40, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not needed now. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)
International families needing locational disambiguation
- Propose renaming Category:Barhath family of Shahpura to Category:Barhath family (Shahpura)
- Category:Oppenheim family of Cologne to Category:Oppenheim family (Cologne)
- Category:Denison family of Toronto to Category:Denison family (Toronto)
- Category:Yadav family of Uttar Pradesh to Category:Yadav family (Uttar Pradesh)
- Category:Yadav family of Bihar to Category:Yadav family (Bihar)
- Category:Das family of Telirbagh to Category:Das family (Telirbagh)
- Propose renaming Category:Barhath family of Shahpura to Category:Barhath family (Shahpura)
- Nominator's rationale: We've renamed all US family categories which need locational disambiguation to put the location in parentheses. These international categories should match. Mike Selinker (talk) 06:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Odontobatrachidae
- Propose merging Category:Odontobatrachidae to Category:Ranoidea
- Nominator's rationale: Odontobatrachidae is a monogeneric family. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:31, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:51, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:July 2026 sports events in the United Kingdom
- Propose merging Category:January 2026 sports events in Africa (1) to Category:January 2026 sports events
- Propose merging Category:January 2026 sports events in the United States (1) to Category:January 2026 sports events
- Propose merging Category:June 2026 sports events in the United States (1) to Category:June 2026 sports events, Category:June 2026 events in the United States, and Category:2026 in American sports
- Propose merging Category:July 2026 sports events in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:July 2026 sports events in Europe
- Propose merging Category:July 2026 sports events in the United States (1) to Category:July 2026 sports events and Category:July 2026 events in the United States
- Propose merging Category:August 2026 sports events in the United Kingdom (1) to Category:August 2026 sports events in Europe
- Propose merging Category:August 2026 sports events in Germany (1) to Category:August 2026 sports events in Europe and Category:2026 in German sport
- Propose merging Category:November 2026 sports events in Canada (2) to Category:November 2026 sports events in North America
- Propose deleting Category:January 2026 events in Africa (1)
- Propose deleting
Category:2026 events in Africa by month (0)Category:2026 in Africa by month (2) (page was speedy moved during this discussion) - Propose deleting Category:July 2026 events in the United Kingdom (1)
- Propose deleting Category:August 2026 events in the United Kingdom (1)
- Propose deleting Category:2026 in the United Kingdom by month (2)
- Propose deleting Category:August 2026 events in Germany (1)
- Propose deleting Category:2026 events in Germany by month (1)
- Propose deleting Category:January 2026 events in the United States (1)
- Propose deleting Category:January 2026 sports events in North America (1)
- Propose deleting Category:January 2026 events in North America (2)
- Propose deleting Category:June 2026 sports events in North America (2)
- Nominator's rationale: Too soon to diffuse by country & month. –Aidan721 (talk) 01:23, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge/delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Surnames from ornamental names
- Propose renaming Category:Surnames from ornamental names to Category:Ornamental surnames
- Nominator's rationale: These surnames, i.e., such as Rosenkrantz or Goldfarb are ornamental surnames themselves, not "derived" from anything but their fancy meaning. --Altenmann >talk 01:10, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete in the spirit of WP:SHAREDNAME. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:13, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Support per nom. (SHAREDNAME is obviously about items, not the categories themselves? We can obviously categorize surnames) PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:27, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed we can categorize surnames, e.g. by language, and we already do that. But this category is what the surnames are named after. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:47, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, but that is encyclopedic when it comes to surnames themselves because they're discussed in categories that way in the literature. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed we can categorize surnames, e.g. by language, and we already do that. But this category is what the surnames are named after. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:47, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - This is another "things named after other things". We can't do 1:1 relationships in categories (unless we start doing a myriad of 2-member cats - which would presumably be overcat). - jc37 21:56, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Sanskrit Aesthetics
- Propose renaming Category:Sanskrit Aesthetics to Category:Sanskrit aesthetics
- Nominator's rationale: So that the capitalization can comply with Wikipedia capitalization conventions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oraclesto (talk • contribs) 00:04, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per WP:C2A but purge the biographies which mostly belong in the tree of Category:Linguists of Sanskrit. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Nomination was malformed and has been standardized. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy rename per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:43, 28 January 2025 (UTC)