Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 January 29
January 29
Category:1965 establishments in the Collectivity of Saint Martin
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Category:Temporary disappearances
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Formerly missing people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Temporary disappearances to Category:Formerly missing people
- Nominator's rationale: Vague. How temporary is temporary? Mason (talk) 23:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, I wouldn't know how these two categories are meant to be distinct. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge Two categories with an identical scope. Dimadick (talk) 01:33, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Prosecutors general
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Category:21st-century British Virgin Islands lawyers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:21st-century British Virgin Islands lawyers to Category:British Virgin Islands lawyers and Category:21st-century lawyers
- Propose merging Category:20th-century British Virgin Islands lawyers to Category:British Virgin Islands lawyers and Category:20th-century lawyers
- Propose merging Category:18th-century British Virgin Islands lawyers to Category:18th-century lawyers and Category:British Virgin Islands lawyers
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. No other category for the BVI is diffused by century. Mason (talk) 22:22, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 23:18, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:33, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:58, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Pre-Columbian Mexico
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:10th-century establishments in Mexico to Category:10th-century establishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:11th-century establishments in Mexico to Category:11th-century establishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:12th-century establishments in Mexico to Category:12th-century establishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:13th-century disestablishments in Mexico to Category:13th-century disestablishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:14th century in Mexico to Category:14th century in North America
- Propose merging Category:14th-century establishments in Mexico to Category:14th-century establishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:15th century in Mexico to Category:15th century in North America
- Propose merging Category:15th-century establishments in Mexico to Category:15th-century establishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:15th-century disestablishments in Mexico to Category:15th-century disestablishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:1470s establishments in Mexico in Category:1470s establishments in North America
- Propose merging Category:1480s in Mexico to Category:1480s in North America
- Nominator's rationale: merge, these are articles insofar unrelated to the Aztec civilization, mostly quite unrelated to each other and certainly not related to the later state of Mexico. We have deleted Gutemalan categories before for the same reason. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:17, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 23:34, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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20th century in the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:31, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:20th century in the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland to Category:20th century in Rhodesia and Category:20th century in Malawi
- Propose merging Category:20th-century establishments in the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland to Category:20th-century establishments in Rhodesia and Category:20th-century establishments in Malawi
- Propose merging Category:Years of the 20th century in the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland to Category:Years of the 20th century in Rhodesia and Category:Years of the 20th century in Malawi
- Nominator's rationale: merge, this federation existed wholly within the 20th century, there is no need to diffuse this by century. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge. I really wonder if we need a full-scale category structure for the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland, a short-lived colonial structure. Place Clichy (talk) 21:13, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Name organic reactions
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Category:BBC Television Service original programming
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Category:Skate photographers
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Category:Native American people from the San Francisco Bay Area
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Category:People in 19th-century Utah
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- The result of the discussion was: split & redirect. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:30, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Split, then redirect to Category:People from pre-statehood Utah. Utah Territory 1850–1896 should hold most; Children of Joseph Smith should go to Category:19th-century American people. Add Category:People from Utah Territory into Category:19th-century American people by state or territory. – Fayenatic London 15:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Split, using 19th-century terminology. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Split per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:09, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:19th-century people from Oklahoma
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People from Indian Territory. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:16, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:19th-century people from Oklahoma to Category:People from Indian Territory
- Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect. "Indian Territory" was the relevant name for 1834–1907. – Fayenatic London 15:19, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, using 19th-century terminology. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge but do not redirect as Oklahoma Territory also existed from 1890–1907. Make it a disambiguation page. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:The Uganda Society
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Category:Jewish people in sports
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:32, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Jewish people in sports to Category:Jewish sports
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. Basically the same categories. Omnis Scientia (talk) 14:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update: Changed target category per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle but upmerge to Category:Jewish sports instead of downmerge, because the list article does not belong in sportspeople. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Good point! I will change the target category. Omnis Scientia (talk) 19:04, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. I created this category because List of Jews in sports (non-players) was previously categorized directly in Category:People in sports (a container category). pburka (talk) 04:40, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Pburka, you likely missed that Category:Jewish sportspeople exist.
YourThis category is basically a duplicate of that one. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)- Not at all! Sportspeople play sports. This category is more broad, as it includes coaches, managers, superfans, etc. It would be inappropriate to include non-players in the sportspeople category. pburka (talk) 01:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- It would probably be inappropriate also to associate non-players with Jewishness, when that's not related. I'm not aware that Judaism plays a significant role in sports refereeing. Place Clichy (talk) 17:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- I feel like that's an argument to delete List of Jews in sports (non-players). As long as that page exists, so should this category. Additionally, everyone in that list should be added to this category. pburka (talk) 03:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- No, for categories we have stricter criteria than for lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:22, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- You should also keep in mind that everyone in sports is considered a "sportsperson" - athlete, broadcaster, owner, executives, referees, etc. Omnis Scientia (talk) 11:11, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- I feel like that's an argument to delete List of Jews in sports (non-players). As long as that page exists, so should this category. Additionally, everyone in that list should be added to this category. pburka (talk) 03:09, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- It would probably be inappropriate also to associate non-players with Jewishness, when that's not related. I'm not aware that Judaism plays a significant role in sports refereeing. Place Clichy (talk) 17:19, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- Not at all! Sportspeople play sports. This category is more broad, as it includes coaches, managers, superfans, etc. It would be inappropriate to include non-players in the sportspeople category. pburka (talk) 01:15, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Pburka, you likely missed that Category:Jewish sportspeople exist.
- Merge per nom. I don't think it would be a good idea to have categories for non-competing people in sports such as administrators and referees based in their Jewishness, beyond the list article. Place Clichy (talk) 21:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Bailando por un Sueño (Argentine TV series) BAR members
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Bailando por un Sueño (Argentine TV series) BAR members ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 13:50, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Bailando por un Sueño (Argentine TV series) participants
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Bailando por un Sueño (Argentine TV series) participants ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 13:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Bailando por un Sueño (Argentine TV series) judges
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:15, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Bailando por un Sueño (Argentine TV series) judges ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT --woodensuperman 13:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Jewish Canadian filmmakers
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- The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:35, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Jewish Canadian filmmakers to Category:Jewish film people and Category:Canadian filmmakers
- Nominator's rationale: Merge per previous Cfd on "Jewish American filmmakers" Omnis Scientia (talk) 10:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Manually merge, most articles are already in Canadian film directors or Canadian film producers. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom and Marcocapelle. Place Clichy (talk) 21:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. There is no previous CfD on Jewish American filmmakers. I just created the category for the first time. Uriahheep228 (talk) 19:52, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Related enough categories that were deleted under WP:EGRS/I:
- Category:Jewish American film directors (which is the recent discussion the nominator was referring to)
- Category:American Jewish Film Producers
- Category:Jewish film producers
- Category:Jewish film directors
- Category:Jewish films (twice)
- Category:Jewish television series
- Category:Jewish American theatre producers
- So indeed, there is little evidence that Jewish film people are a notable intersection per our guidelines. There are of course notable filmmakers who are Jews, but they are Jewish, and filmmakers, not Jewish-filmmakers. Place Clichy (talk) 23:27, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
- Related enough categories that were deleted under WP:EGRS/I:
- Manual merge per Marco. The "keep" voter has not advanced a substantive reason to keep the category (i.e. has not rebutted a solid rationale for deletion). HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:14, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:African-American women lawyers
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Category:American tennis coaches by state
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Category:English given names invented by fiction writers
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:12, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:English given names invented by fiction writers to Category:????
- Nominator's rationale: Per the last discussion these kinds of categories are problematic, I do not believe that the vast majority of the names included in this category belong here. Either this category needs to be heavily monitored, renamed, or deleted. ★Trekker (talk) 08:59, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. This isn't something for a category, but rathe the page contents. Mason (talk) 20:54, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Centuries in the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:History of the Federation of Rhodesia and Nyasaland. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge, this category only has one century in it with is unhelpful for navigaiton Mason (talk) 06:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:49, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Truck road incident deaths
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:11, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Truck road incident deaths to Category:Road incident deaths
- Nominator's rationale: Do we really need to specify what kind of automobile is involved? Mason (talk) 06:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- If not kept, then just delete. Do not merge because the articles are already in the tree of Category:Road incident deaths by country. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per Marco. Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:50, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Asian-American women psychologists
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Category:African-American women economists
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Category:Television stations in Portsmouth, Ohio
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Television stations in Portsmouth, Ohio ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page, which is a redirect. Let'srun (talk) 02:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:10, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Basically empty. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:21, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Russian activists against the Russian invasion of Ukraine
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- The result of the discussion was: purge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:37, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I am concerned that most people in this category are not activists, just various notable people (artists, scientists, sportspeople, etc.) who are Russians that have criticized the invasion. Only a few are activists. I suggest this is renamed to generic people,with no prejudice to recreating activists as a subcategory (but it should be used only for activists). It is not right to classify (categorize) someone as an activists simply because they made a staement here or there about their political views. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 02:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose rename. Purge the non-activists from the category instead. Mason (talk) 02:37, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Purge per Mason. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Purge per Mason. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Goans in science and technology
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:34, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Goans in science and technology to Category:Scientists from Goa
- Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 02:06, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:16, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Underwater diving
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Category:Depictions of women in film
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Depictions of women in film to Category:Films about women
- Nominator's rationale: rename, aligning with the name of most subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:09, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, as that would exclude the topical articles currently held here. No objection to splitting if that would be useful. – Fayenatic London 14:20, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 01:32, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
- Withdraw this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Old Cities of Mon people
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