Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 10
December 10
Populated places established before 1500
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:06, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: At present we have two underpopulated categories for populated places established before 1500. These are Category:Populated places established in 1250 and Category:Populated places established in 1495 with each category containing only one article and little or no prospects for even modest category growth. Both of these catagories are sub-categories of Category:Populated places by year of establishment which itself is part of the long-established and wider Category:Populated places by period of establishment category tree. The guidelines for this category set are as follows:
- Where reliable foundation dates exist, articles describing populated places (including cities, towns and villages) should be categorised by year for 1500 and later, by decade from the 1200s to the 1490s, by century from the 10th century BC to the 13th century and by millennium for the 2nd millennium BC and earlier. Prior to 1500, where greater dating accuracy exists, articles should also be placed in the appropriate Establishments by year category. For any period in history, if reliable information does not narrow down the point of foundation beyond a given time period then articles should only be categorised by the most specific time period (i.e. decade, century or millennium) as indicated by reliable sources and without breaking the aforementioned scheme.
Prior to 1500, there are insufficient populated places being founded per annum to justify categorization by year. See WP:OCYEAR for more general guidelines pertinent to this point. Specifically "avoid creating a category tree of individual by year categories with very few members."
In the case of these two categories the two articles in question (Bottle Creek Indian Mounds and Santiago de los Caballeros) would be appropriately recategorized to Category:Populated places established in the 1250s and Category:1250 establishments and also Category:Populated places established in the 1490s and Category:1495 establishments respectively. Greenshed (talk) 22:24, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Upmerge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:02, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:American films set in New York City
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 20#Category:American films set in New York City
Category:Funsoft games
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:58, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Funsoft games to Category:Funsoft, Inc. games
- Nominator's rationale: To disambiguate from Category:Funsoft GmbH games. Mika1h (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Presumably the target is meant to be Category:Funsoft Inc games. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I fixed it. --Mika1h (talk) 09:33, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:45, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Ice exoplanets
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 17#Category:Ice exoplanets
Category:Burton family
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 17#Category:Burton family
Category:Set designers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge and rename (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:10, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Set designers to Category:Scenic designers
- Propose merging Category:American set designers to Category:American scenic designers
- Propose renaming Category:Broadway set designers to Category:Broadway scenic designers
- Nominator's rationale: As the main article (scenic design) states, these are the same thing. The categories should be merged to match the main article. The two child categories should also be merged/renamed as proposed above. Axem Titanium (talk) 06:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:54, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge/rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Non-Assamese-language films with Assamese connection
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:48, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Japan in non-Japanese culture. Kailash29792 (talk) 14:49, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
- Delete in the spirit of WP:OCASSOC. It could have been different if the entries were documentary films about Assam but that is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:05, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename or delete?
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Relisting comment: One more time, see above
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- Delete - per Marcocapelle (sort of). This is basically films about or set in a location, that are not in the language generally associated with that location? Sounds like WP:LIST material to me (per WP:BEFORECAT/WP:CLN), if anything... - jc37 21:12, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:College basketball venues
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:San Diego Toreros basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in California and Category:San Diego Toreros basketball
- Propose merging Category:Kansas Jayhawks basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Kansas and Category:Kansas Jayhawks basketball
- Propose merging Category:Emporia State Hornets basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Kansas and Category:Emporia State Hornets basketball
- Propose merging Category:George Mason Patriots basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Virginia and Category:George Mason Patriots basketball
- Propose merging Category:Oklahoma State Cowboys and Cowgirls basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Oklahoma and Category:Oklahoma State Cowboys and Cowgirls basketball
- Propose merging Category:Central Oklahoma Bronchos basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Oklahoma and Category:Central Oklahoma Bronchos basketball
- Propose merging Category:Nevada Wolf Pack basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Nevada and Category:Nevada Wolf Pack basketball
- Propose merging Category:Saint Joseph's Hawks basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Pennsylvania and Category:Saint Joseph's Hawks basketball
- Propose merging Category:Virginia Tech Hokies basketball venues to Category:College basketball venues in Virginia and Category:Virginia Tech Hokies basketball
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT. There is only 1 applicable article for each of the above categories. User:Namiba 15:40, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:41, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Bakersfield Condors (1998–2015)
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Defunct ECHL teams. Category:Bakersfield Condors (1998–2015) players will remain in Category:ECHL players but will not be placed in Category:Defunct ECHL teams. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Bakersfield Condors (1998–2015) to Category:Defunct ECHL teams
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NARROWCAT. User:Namiba 15:38, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom but purge the subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Do not purge Category:Bakersfield Condors (1998–2015) players. It is correctly placed within Category:ECHL players. Flibirigit (talk) 12:12, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes but it shouldn't be directly under Category:Defunct ECHL teams which is what would happen with a full merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:47, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Your explanation is baffling. I feel like we don't have the same understanding of the words purge or merge. Flibirigit (talk) 12:33, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Flibirigit: it is probably a misunderstanding. I mean to say, purge the players subcategory from the teams category while merging. Purging articles from the players category was not my intention. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:09, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Kabaddi players from Manipur
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Kabaddi players from Manipur to Category:Sportspeople from Manipur
- Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 14:43, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:46, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Times that 1000 Wikipedians supported something
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Times that 1000+ Wikipedians supported something. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:05, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This is to clarify that this category is for any pages with >1000 signatures supporting something. See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 20#Category:Times that 1100 Wikipedians supported something where there was some support for the rename. We can also rename to "Times that 1000 or more Wikipedians supported something" after Wikipedia:Times that 1000 or more Wikipedians supported something if people find the "+" confusing. All, except one, of the pages here are >1,100 signatures anyway. – robertsky (talk) 05:30, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. One might expect that people would naturally understand the concept of "more than" but that appeared not to be the case recently when categories were created for 1100 and 1200 supporters. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. xRozuRozu • teacups 04:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Category is not useful to the project. In other words, there is no encyclopedia-benefiting reason to specifically go looking through this category to find things. The only common denominator for these categories is over 1000 Wikipedians supported it, that leaves a (potentially) huge grouping of otherwise completely unrelated pages together, if this category were more complete. I see no real use for such a grouping. If no consensus to delete, I would suggest a rename to make it more obvious that this category is to be used in Wikipedia space (and not mainspace) categories, Such as Category:Wikipedia topics that 1000+ Wikipedians supported. VegaDark (talk) 17:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with Category:Wikipedia topics that 1000+ Wikipedians supported too. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category:Wikipedia topics that 1000+ Wikipedians supported does seem like a better alternative. xRozuRozu • teacups 23:17, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This would create an inconsistency with Category:Times that 100 Wikipedians supported something, Category:Times that 200 Wikipedians supported something, Category:Times that 300 Wikipedians supported something, etc. Marcocapelle's reasoning fails, since the 1100 category wasn't created due to a misunderstanding, but rather because (as far as I know), nothing before the ANI open letter had been supported by 1100 Wikipedians. JJPMaster (she/they) 18:02, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Times that 1000 or more Wikipedians supported something to be consistent with the base page Wikipedia:Times that 1000 or more Wikipedians supported something. And I don't see a reason to delete this - counter VegaDark (who I usually agree with in this kind of discussion) I would say that times than 1000 people supported something are defining moments in Wikipedia's history and deserve to be grouped together. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:39, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Times that 1000+ Wikipedians supported something for consistency' sake with existing categories. This will make any additional categories for higher number counts unnecessary. Liz Read! Talk! 01:30, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: 1000+ or 1000 or more
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- Both options are ok, I have a slight preference for "1000+" over "1000 or more" for brevity. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:1998 European Women's Handball Championship
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:1998 in women's handball. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 16:11, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:1998 European Women's Handball Championship ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Contains only the eponymous category and the squads. User:Namiba 22:40, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:1998 in women's handball. I assume the other parent categories aren't very applicable to the squads list, but this one at least is. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:09, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose. Keep per WP:SMALLCAT: such categories are part of a large overall accepted sub-categorization scheme, subcat of Category:European Women's Handball Championship. Also this category does have realistic potential for growth (articles about bidding process, qualification, final match will be added in future, such as 2022 European Women's Handball Championship bidding process, 2022 European Women's Handball Championship qualification etc. Teterev53 (talk) 07:43, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
- Almost all of the categories in Category:European Women's Handball Championship should be nominated as well. They do not help navigation per WP:SMALLCAT. If 5 or more articles are written for a particular event, then I would have no problem recreating it.--User:Namiba 15:53, 4 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Merge per Marcocapelle. WP:SMALLCAT is no longer a guideline. No objection to recreating when the category can be appropriately populated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:31, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Newtown High School alumni
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Newtown High School alumni to Category:Newtown High School (Queens) alumni
- Nominator's rationale: There are several Newtown High Schools. The title of the article which corresponds to this category is Newtown High School (Queens). The category needs the same disambiguator. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 13:45, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. ~ Quacks Like a Duck (talk) 15:49, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Films with songs by composer/songwriter(s)
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 14:33, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: I'm not even sure this category is needed (which is why it's here instead of C2A), but if kept, should be renamed per MOS:SLASH and singular per WP:CAT. Gonnym (talk) 12:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete for now, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:57, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category is empty. Liz Read! Talk! 19:05, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Category was moved to proposed target by original category creator during this CfD. My recommendation would be to delete per Marcocapelle. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:39, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:The Bigs video games
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 17#Category:The Bigs video games
Government buildings 1300-1700
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:29, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Government buildings completed in 1381 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1381 and Category:Government buildings completed in the 14th century
- Propose merging Category:Government buildings completed in 1400 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1400 and Category:Government buildings completed in the 15th century
- Propose merging Category:Government buildings completed in 1411 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1411 and Category:Government buildings completed in the 15th century
- Propose merging Category:Government buildings completed in 1413 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1413 and Category:Government buildings completed in the 15th century
- Propose merging Category:Government buildings completed in 1417 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1417 and Category:Government buildings completed in the 15th century
- Propose merging Category:Government buildings completed in 1428 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1428 and Category:Government buildings completed in the 15th century
- Propose merging Category:Government buildings completed in 1440 (1 P) to Category: Buildings and structures completed in 1440 and Category:Government buildings completed in the 15th century
- Nominator's rationale: merge, until 1700 the tree mainly consists of single-article categories, this is unhelpful for easy navigation between related articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:CARB's ZEV Mandate
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:59, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:CARB's ZEV Mandate ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Not entirely certain what the purpose of this category is. Perhaps to categorise vehicle models that comply with some regulation(s) connected to the California Air Resources Board's ZEV program? If that is the case, then it's a WP:NONDEFINING characteristic. 1857a (talk) 02:41, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, they are electric cars and already categorized as such. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:19, 10 December 2024 (UTC)
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