Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 May 5
May 5
Category:Police brutality in Brazil by ex-policemen
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. No page left to be merged. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:01, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Overcategorization for a non-defining intersection of traits. We do not otherwise have any scheme of categorizing police brutality by ex-policemen separately from police brutality by current policemen. Bearcat (talk) 23:53, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:17, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge but per WP:SMALLCAT. I'm open minded about this type of subcategory in theory. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose -- This is not a right solution. The perpetrator was an ex-policeman. The problem is that the single article is inadequately categorised. Recategorize article to empty this category, then delete. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:59, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment This category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 03:15, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Murdered Brazilian politicians
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Murdered Brazilian politicians ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 16#Category:Murdered politicians, we do not categorize for the intersection of political career with status as a murder victim. Bearcat (talk) 23:48, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Comment Category is empty. Liz Read! Talk! 01:46, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:19, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete Unlike Category:Assassinated Brazilian politicians, these killings are not necessarily linked to the victims' political careers. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:35, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Mega-Sena
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Mega-Sena ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Caixa Econômica Federal Lotteries ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCAT for a non-defining characteristic. The article filed here is about an event that tangentially happened to involve a former winner of a Brazilian lottery, but the event and the lottery are otherwise unrelated to each other, so the event certainly isn't defined by the participant's incidental status as a past lottery winner. And Category:Caixa Econômica Federal Lotteries will simply be left empty otherwise, since it too was created solely to contain this. Bearcat (talk) 23:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Rio Bonito
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Rio Bonito ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Embu-Guaçu ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Juquitiba ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Single-entry WP:SMALLCATs for small municipalities in Brazil. As always, every town that exists does not automatically get one of these the moment one thing with an article has happened there -- there would have to be at least five or six articles to file in each of these before a category for any of them was warranted. For added bonus, the categories were created by an editor who's been on a royal rampage of bad overcategorization with a few dozen bad, misnamed, misconceived and/or duplicate categories created just in the past few days alone. Bearcat (talk) 23:31, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete for Now with no objection to recreation if any reach 5+ articles. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Canadian model stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Canadian model stubs to Category:Model stubs and Category:Canadian people stubs
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category. Unlike the Australian model stubs category below, this one was approved by WikiProject stub sorting back in 2008 -- however, while it purportedly had 60 articles at that time, it now only has 19, and neither Category:Model stubs nor Category:Canadian people stubs offer up anybody else who could be refiled here to repopulate it. So it was a good faith creation at the time, but it's no longer needed for the small number of people who are still here 15 years later. Bearcat (talk) 21:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Australian model stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Australian model stubs to Category:Model stubs and Category:Australian people stubs
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category with no evidence of approval by Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any random user to create on a whim: there have to be 60 articles to populate a stub category before it becomes warranted, below that a stub template should just sort pages into parent categories instead of being paired with their own dedicated categories, and because there's a minimum size requirement stub categories have to be approved for creation. But there are only 16 articles here even after a scan through Category:Model stubs for prodigal Australians, and there's no evidence that this was ever approved by the stub sorting project. Bearcat (talk) 21:37, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Portuguese Mozambique
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- The result of the discussion was: double merge per Oculi. – Fayenatic London 20:34, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: procedural nomination, stale discussion at WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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- @Oculi, Wozal, and Laurel Lodged: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Upmerge to Category:British emigrants to Mozambique and Category:Immigrants to Portuguese Mozambique (1 article, WP:SMALLCAT). If kept, rename per nom. Oculi (talk) 22:26, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Dual Upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT and Oculi. (If kept, rename.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:48, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Upmerge to Category:Immigrants to Portuguese Mozambique (1 article, WP:SMALLCAT). Create new target for additional upmerge called Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Mozambique. Laurel Lodged (talk) 16:48, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is there some difference between the existing Category:British emigrants to Mozambique, part of an existing tree, and Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Mozambique, not part of an existing tree? If so, what is it, and if not, what is the point? Oculi (talk) 18:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Apparently people from Montserrat are British. So they would be in Category:British emigrants to Mozambique but not in Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Mozambique. Laurel Lodged (talk) 11:35, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
- Is there some difference between the existing Category:British emigrants to Mozambique, part of an existing tree, and Category:Emigrants from the United Kingdom to Mozambique, not part of an existing tree? If so, what is it, and if not, what is the point? Oculi (talk) 18:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
- Upmerge per Oculi. We don't need that extra layer. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:35, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Treasure hunt television series
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 00:23, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Treasure hunt television series to Category:Television series about treasure hunting
- Propose renaming Category:Treasure hunt films to Category:Films about treasure hunting
- Propose renaming Category:Treasure hunt comics to Category:Comics about treasure hunting
- Nominator's rationale: procedural nomination, stale discussion at WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:43, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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- @Zxcvbnm, Armbrust, and Oculi: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:46, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Rename Clearer and follows convention. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:49, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support The main article is called treasure hunting. Dimadick (talk) 11:21, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom. (It wasn't a speedy IMO.) Oculi (talk) 18:56, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Maccabi Ironi Tamra F.C. players
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- The result of the discussion was: keep per RM outcome at Talk:Maccabi_Ironi_Tamra_F.C.#Requested_move_8_May_2023. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:03, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Maccabi Ironi Tamra F.C. players to Category:Maccabi Tamra F.C. players
- Nominator's rationale: procedural nomination, stale discussion at WP:CFDS. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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- @Geregen2 and Gonnym: pinging contributors to speedy discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:38, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Question @Marcocapelle: Did you mean to remove "players" from the proposed rename? (Looks like the word was included in the speedy nom.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:51, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for that, I have corrected it. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:50, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 15:26, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose if the parent article is at Maccabi Ironi Tamra, the category should reflect that and be Category:Maccabi Ironi Tamra players. Really, this discussion should be closed, and a RM for the parent article should be had, as the lack of 'F.C.' is not standard (see Category:Football clubs in Israel. The sub-category name can then flow from that. GiantSnowman 15:30, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- When I originally proposed the category move, the parent article was located at Maccabi Tamra F.C.
- The full formal name of the club is Maccabi Ironi Tamra, according to the Israel Football Association, but that does not seem to be the WP:COMMONNAME or, at least, that's not certain.
- The club calls itself Maccabi Tamra F.C. on their actual logo and on their socials, in Hebrew and in Arabic. No "Ironi". Hebrew Wiki does not say Ironi. News searches are not of much use. Soccerway says "Maccabi Ironi Tamra". Worldfootball.net says "Maccabi Tamra".
- @Gonnym moved the parent article to Maccabi Ironi Tamra after my nomination.
- I think the question of the proper name for the article should be discussed on the talk page for that article, at least, before any definitive category moves are made.
- Thanks, Geregen2 (talk) 00:15, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- RM Nomination I opened a formal requested move of the main article. Your input (pro/con/other) is welcome right here. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:35, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Defer To whatever the outcome of that RM is, whether I agree with it or not. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:35, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
- Result of the Requested Move The article was formally moved back to Maccabi Ironi Tamra F.C. per consensus. @Marcocapelle: Would you consider withdrawing the nomination as moot? - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, I am withdrawing this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Supporters of the Aryan idea
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 21#Category:Supporters of the Aryan idea
Category:Shukuyodo deities
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:02, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Shukuyodo deities ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, not a defining characteristic of the articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:11, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Low Countries newspaper publishers, pre-1795 (people)
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Low Countries newspaper publishers, pre-1795 (people) ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, only two articles, of people from two different countries that split up when they were born. No need to merge, they are already in Category:17th-century newspaper publishers (people). Marcocapelle (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Weak delete It's a bit of a weird category, it certainly doesn't fit the Category:Newspaper publishers (people) by nationality tree. By comparison, Category:Book publishers (people) of the Austrian Netherlands is a child of Category:Book publishers (people) of the Holy Roman Empire, which is in the Category:Book publishers (people) by nationality tree. A bit weird to consider the HRE a 'nationality', but legally it makes sense. One could also take 'Austria' or 'Habsburg monarchy' to be the relevant 'nationality' here. One advantage of the HRE 'nationality' is that it can include Liégeois people. Anyway. I'll look at this some other day. Too much fuss about "heritage" in one day already. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 19:03, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. If retained, rename to anything comprehensible. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:53, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete -- At this period we should not be combining United Provinces with Austrian Netherlands. We have one article for each country. Possibly upmerge to a European parent (but there is not one). Perhaps better is to ignore the hiatus between French conquest in 1795 and put them in the Dutch or Belgian category as appropriate, despite anachronism. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:07, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Canada's Got Talent judges
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Canada's Got Talent judges ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: This is just a WP:PERFCAT. A judge on a TV series is not WP:DEFINING. --woodensuperman 13:42, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:42, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete The judges were famous celebrities with a long list of credits before joining this show. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:54, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Earth mysteries
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:03, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Earth mysteries ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: This is meant for "Earth mysteries", which are locations connected to certain spiritual beliefs, but the term is so seldom used and poorly defined that it's not really a viable category. Before I cleaned it up, this was used as sort of a catch-all for unexplained phenomena, but there's no good reason to maintain a separate category from Category:Unexplained phenomena. –dlthewave ☎ 12:36, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete, not a defining characteristic for the articles in this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Dual internationalists (football)
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 21#Category:Dual internationalists (football)
Category:Shprefeja players
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete (non-admin closure) * Pppery * it has begun... 14:34, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Shprefeja players ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: No evidence that Shprefeja club is notable. No reliable information can be easily found, and it has no article. Geregen2 (talk) 02:40, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. As the club doesn't look notable, it's unlikely that there will be many more notable players to add to this category, as well as whether playing for an obscure club is WP:NOTDEFINING anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:08, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 10:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 10:35, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
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Floods by country
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:04, 29 May 2023 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Austria to Category:Natural disasters in Austria
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Belgium to Category:Natural disasters in Belgium
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Benin to Category:Natural disasters in Benin
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Bosnia and Herzegovina to Category:Natural disasters in Bosnia and Herzegovina
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Botswana to Category:Natural disasters in Botswana
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Bulgaria to Category:Natural disasters in Bulgaria
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Chad to Category:Natural disasters in Chad
- Propose merging Category:Floods in the Democratic Republic of the Congo to Category:Natural disasters in the Democratic Republic of the Congo
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Croatia to Category:Natural disasters in Croatia
- Propose merging Category:Floods in the Czech Republic to Category:Natural disasters in the Czech Republic
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Denmark to Category:Natural disasters in Denmark
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Ethiopia to Category:Natural disasters in Ethiopia
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Fiji to Category:Natural disasters in Fiji
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Greece to Category:Natural disasters in Greece
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Haiti to Category:Natural disasters in Haiti and Category:Floods in the Caribbean
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Hungary to Category:Natural disasters in Hungary
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Iran to Category:Natural disasters in Iran
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Madagascar to Category:Natural disasters in Madagascar
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Malawi to Category:Natural disasters in Malawi
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Mexico to Category:Natural disasters in Mexico
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Moldova to Category:Natural disasters in Moldova
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Namibia to Category:Natural disasters in Namibia
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Niger to Category:Natural disasters in Niger
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Peru to Category:Natural disasters in Peru
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Poland to Category:Natural disasters in Poland
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Portugal to Category:Natural disasters in Portugal
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Rwanda to Category:Natural disasters in Rwanda
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Saudi Arabia to Category:Natural disasters in Saudi Arabia
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Serbia to Category:Natural disasters in Serbia
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Singapore to Category:Natural disasters in Singapore
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Slovenia to Category:Natural disasters in Slovenia
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Switzerland to Category:Natural disasters in Switzerland and Category:Floods in Europe
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Tanzania to Category:Natural disasters in Tanzania
- Propose merging
Category:Floods in Turkey to Category:Natural disasters in Turkey(not tagged) - Propose merging Category:Floods in Uganda to Category:Natural disasters in Uganda
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Ukraine to Category:Natural disasters in Ukraine
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Uruguay to Category:Natural disasters in Uruguay
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Venezuela to Category:Natural disasters in Venezuela
- Propose merging Category:Floods in Zimbabwe to Category:Natural disasters in Zimbabwe
- Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Do not need to merge to continent level except where listed above since articles are in yearly or decade continent categories. Some merging will need to be manual since the articles are also categorized under earthquakes or landslides. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:15, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Support all per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:23, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge all as per nom. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:42, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:47, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge all as per nom. --Bduke (talk) 01:03, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- Merge all Per WP:SMALLCAT. - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:57, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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Category:Royal houses of the Netherlands
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 21#Category:Royal houses of the Netherlands