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Category:Muslim Kolis

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, Koli people is an ethnicity so you would expect biographies in this category, but there aren't any. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Category:Koli people needs to be split into biographies (e.g. Parshottambhai Solanki) and other articles (e.g. Koli Christians). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:42, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:College of Brown University Alumni

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:College of Brown University Alumni

Category:Ingrid Andress

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Ingrid Andress

Category:Phoebe Bridgers

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Phoebe Bridgers

Category:Saweetie

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Saweetie

Category:Sofia Carson

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Sofia Carson

Category:Ancient peoples of France

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:09, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "France" didn't exist yet until 987, and the category includes peoples/tribes who dwelled in areas outside the borders of modern France such as the Menapii (northern Belgium / southern Netherlands) and the Vangiones (southwestern Germany). Also, "in" is a better preposition than "of", compare the only item in the category Greeks in pre-Roman Gaul as well as siblings Category:Ancient tribes in the Balkans‎, Category:Ancient tribes in Greece, Category:Ancient tribes in Hungary (perhaps rename that one to "Pannonia" as well?). While we're at it, we might as well rename its child as well. Parent Category:French people by period should be purged, because that is in the Peoply by nationality tree, and there is no "French nationality" before there is a French state in 987. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 17:59, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Taxa named by Henry Charles Andrews

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories refer to the same person. The lead of Henry Cranke Andrews explains that this person's middle name was long thought to be Charles, hence the confusion. Vahurzpu (talk) 16:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Taxa named by Hugo Fleury Donzel

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories refer to the same person. Merge target incorporates the current name of the person's article. Vahurzpu (talk) 16:54, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Taxa named by Yngve Sjöstedt

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories refer to the same person. Merge target incorporates the current name of the person's article. Vahurzpu (talk) 16:53, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Taxa named by Valery Konstantinovich Jeremčenko

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories refer to the same person. I couldn't find the "Jeremčenko" transliteration elsewhere with a cursory search, but this obituary uses the "Eremchenko" transliteration. Vahurzpu (talk) 16:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Taxa named by Konrad H. Christ

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:10, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories refer to the same person. Merge target incorporates the current name of the person's article. Vahurzpu (talk) 16:48, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Fooian American

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Fooian American

Category:Celtic clans

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:11, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OR WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:CROSSCAT. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of Celtic clans and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 22#Category:Lists of modern Indo-European tribes and clans for more information. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, neither Scottish nor Irish clans are Celtic clans per se, due to a lot of immigration and assimilation in the course of history. Note that the three articles should be moved to one of the subcategories (or both) before deletion. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:23, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good point. 2 of them are already in Scottish clans, Sept should be moved to both. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:38, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
PS: The page Sept is all they seem to have in common, but irony has it that sept is a Germanic word, cognate of Sippe (German), sibbe (Dutch) and sibling (English), not "Celtic". Funny that. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 16:40, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:German chronicles

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:15, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Category:German chroniclers being Merged into Category:Chroniclers from the Holy Roman Empire (19 July). Take no. #2 after first attempt closed as no consensus on 18 July due to too many options (my mistake as nom). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:07, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: You first suggested this as an Alt rename in the previous CfR. Do you still support it? I was hesitant, but now I agree. :) Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 15:09, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Books about Charles Maurras

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Books about Charles Maurras

Category:Comorian nurses

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:16, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SMALLCAT. This category has only 1 entry. Estopedist1 (talk) 17:35, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwerfjkltalk 14:56, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Lists of modern Indo-European tribes and clans

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The result of the discussion was: manual upmerge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 15:59, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:CROSSCAT WP:OR. This mixes up language families and geography (countries/regions), as well as past and present. E.g. Tribes of Montenegro (Slavic, Albanian, or 'Vlach'), List of Scottish clans (Scottish Gaelic, Scots, or English) and List of Irish clans (Gaelic, or English) appear to be based on a specific country or region (Category:Irish clans is a child of Category:Culture of Ireland; Category:Scottish clans is a child of Category:Social history of Scotland): anyone counts, no matter what language they speak/spoke.
On the other hand, Albanian tribes is apparently primarily based on language, not geography ("in Albania and the southwestern Balkans"... "Some of the tribes are considered extinct because no collective memory of descent has survived (i.e. Mataruga, Rogami etc.) while others became slavicised very early on and the majority of the descendants no longer consider themselves Albanian (i.e. Kuči, Mahine etc.).") So too for most other items in this arbitrarycat, like Kurdish tribes who are divided across many countries and territories and only seem to share a language (family).
Moreover, the category claims to be about "modern" clans and tribes, but most contents are about "historical" tribes and clans which no longer exist. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 14:53, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Germanic people

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Germanic people

Category:15th-century Turkic women

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge all to Category:15th-century women, etc. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:17, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to CfD "16th-century Turkic women" (Deleted yesterday). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Celtic American

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:17, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:ARBITRARYCAT WP:CROSSCAT of language families, countries/regions and nationalities. Follow-up to CfD "Celtic culture by country" (Deleted yesterday), "Celtic women" rename & purge (people after 500 CE are no longer called "Celts/Celtic") (27 June 2023), "Chilean people of Germanic descent" (Deleted 7 May 2023), "People of Germanic descent") (Deleted 16 May 2023), and the total deletion of the "People by language family of descent" tree (Deleted 2 June 2023). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 13:20, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Celtic warfare

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:18, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to "Celtic women" being renamed to Category:Ancient Celtic women (matching Ancient Celtic women). Per category description: Category for topics on ancient Celtic warfare. For medieval Gaelic warfare, see Gaelic warfare. I've already boldy renamed main article Celtic warfare to Ancient Celtic warfare. As the article indicates, Celtic/Gallic culture assimilated into Roman culture after 50 BCE, but Gaelic warfare was a medieval continuation in Ireland and Britain (and the category description also already said that). Recent precedents confirm "Ancient Celts/Celtic". Compare Early Germanic warfare. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:41, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Moldovan Ministers of the Interior

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Moldovan Ministers of the Interior

Category:Temples in Anga Region

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Temples in Anga Region

Category:5th-century women rulers

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The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:05, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This better describes the lives of these ancient women. Follow-up to 2nd-century BC women rulers (Split), 3rd-century BC women rulers (Split), and 4th-century BC women rulers (Split). See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 22#Category:3rd-century women rulers for why "women monarchs" should be grouped. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:21, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closer: Apparently I can't make a CfD template identify 4 targets instead of 2, but I'm proposing to split this category into 4 new categories, not 2. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:22, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dutch queens consort

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:24, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Follow-up to Renaming Category:Dutch regents to Category:Regents of the Netherlands (yesterday). Also per the Monarchs of Foo principle (Suggestion B) precedents, including Category:Cypriot monarchs being renamed to Category:Monarchs of Cyprus (13 June 2023), and recent Queens consort of Foo precedents such as Category:Queens consort of Bosnia (12 July 2023‎). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 11:06, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mauryan empresses

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:24, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: More WP:CATSPECIFIC. Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 10:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:4th-century women rulers

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The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:25, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This better describes the lives of these ancient women. There are no empresses regnant in this group. Some were both empresses consort and women regents (in that order, as is common throughout human history). Sofya of Axum and Zarmandukht were both queens consort first and later women regents, but 2 people is not enough for a queens consort by century category, so they have been put in Category:Ancient queens consort. Follow-up to 2nd-century BC women rulers (Split), 3rd-century BC women rulers (Split), and 4th-century BC women rulers (Split). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:42, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note to closer: Apparently I can't make a CfD template identify 3 targets instead of 2, but I'm proposing to split this category into 3 new categories, not 2. Cheers, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:57, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wives of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Wives of Pahlavi Shahs. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:26, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT. More generally, I'm wondering whether parent categories Category:Wives of Iranian Shahs by person and Category:Wives of Pahlavi Shahs both suffer as parents of only WP:SMALLCAT categories, and whether all their subcats should be deleted or merged upwards. Could overall be a matter of WP:Overcategorization. Largoplazo (talk) 09:27, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I agree it's certainly a case of overcategorisation. I yesterday nominated some related cats which were also created a few days ago, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 21#Category:Persian queens consort. I'm not sure if Deletion is the best option here though. Maybe merge with Category:Iranian queens? What does @Marcocapelle think? Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:39, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:3rd-century women rulers

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The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:26, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Background discussion / rationale Nederlandse Leeuw & Marcocapelle here. TL;DR: Unlike in earlier cases, @Marcocapelle and I decided to combine "queens regnant" and "empresses regnant" to "women monarchs" per ancestor Category:Women monarchs to prevent creating SMALLCATs. We also agreed to purge the non-consort Augustae (List of Augustae, Category:Augustae).
Follow-up to 2nd-century BC women rulers (Split), 3rd-century BC women rulers (Split), and 4th-century BC women rulers (Split). Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 09:25, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Iranic folklore

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:25, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. No need to merge, the subcategory is already in Category:Asian folklore. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:07, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Indo-European folklore

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The result of the discussion was: split. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:27, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: split, trivial intersection, there is insufficient commonality in folklore between peoples who speak an Indo-European language. The three remaining "Indo-European" subcategories should be moved to Category:Indo-European culture. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 22 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Queens of Rome

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 30#Category:Queens of Rome

Quelle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2023_July_22