Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 3
May 3
Category:Christian bell towers
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:02, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Christian bell towers to Category:Bell towers
- Nominator's rationale: purge and manually merge, the articles about churches and cathedrals should be removed and articles about bell towers should be kept. However, bell towers do not have a religion, so manually disperse to Category:Bell towers and its country subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:08, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose None of these is a Christian bell tower: Linh Phuoc Pagoda, The Bell Tower of Xi'an, Shōrō, Swan Bells, Swan Bells. The Christian towers are sufficiently distinct to warrant their own sub-category. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:54, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:57, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Keep -- The use of bells is strongly associated with Christianity, bells having been long used to summon the faithful to worship. The Muslim equivalent is a minaret. The category might be limited to church bell towers, but on the whole it is better left alone. The target is a mixture of bell towers for other religions and secular ones, such as for war memoricals. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:02, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:West Lusatia
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 10#Category:West Lusatia
Category:Geology of Great Britain
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 17#Category:Geology of Great Britain
Category:Rock formations of Great Britain
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 May 17#Category:Rock formations of Great Britain
Category:Pseudoastronomers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 June 3#Category:Pseudoastronomers
Category:Songs about fires
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 21:42, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about fires ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about arson ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: These songs are not actually "about" fire, they just have the word fire in the title. For example, in "We Didn't Start the Fire", it is metaphorical, not a literal fire; the song is about the constant stream of events that show up in the media. A misinterpretation of Wikipedia's categorization policy. Should be deleted as inaccurate. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:51, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Comment I actually looked up the lyrics of the songs on Genius, they mentioned houses being intentionally burnt by someone else. Some songs talked about events that involved flames. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 23:00, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- I looked up one, Cherokee Highway, and it is a song "about racial unrest" featuring an episode of arson. Again, mere mentions of something in a work of media does not mean that it is defining per WP:NONDEF. It is correctly in Category:Songs against racism and xenophobia but saying it is "about" arson would be a stretch. The Roof Is on Fire can be even said to be metaphorical and not literal. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:24, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed – I doubt that any of the songs listed at Hearts on Fire are literally about fire. Richard3120 (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: We can look for songs those lyrics literally talked about fire throughout the song. SpinnerLaserzthe2nd (talk) 03:37, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Agreed – I doubt that any of the songs listed at Hearts on Fire are literally about fire. Richard3120 (talk) 01:39, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- I looked up one, Cherokee Highway, and it is a song "about racial unrest" featuring an episode of arson. Again, mere mentions of something in a work of media does not mean that it is defining per WP:NONDEF. It is correctly in Category:Songs against racism and xenophobia but saying it is "about" arson would be a stretch. The Roof Is on Fire can be even said to be metaphorical and not literal. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:24, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. "...But don't play with me, 'Cause you're playing with fire." Yes, Play with Fire is in there because it is about a fire according to one editor. So, perhaps the category should be renamed, Category:Songs that have 'Fire' in the title used metaphorically, allegorically, or other literary device, No, that fails WP:SHAREDNAME. "About" categories will always be problematic and generally more WP:OR than WP:CATV. And for any editor who says 'keep but prune' just start pruning...--Richhoncho (talk) 09:00, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Epsilonproteobacteria-stub
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Category:Songs about body parts
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- The result of the discussion was: Delete all Timrollpickering (talk) 21:05, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about body parts ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about breasts ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about buttocks ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about eyes ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about hair and hairstyles ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about penises ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Songs about vaginas ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: This category and all subcategories just contain songs with body parts in the title. Most of them are not actually about body parts, so the category is misleading and I doubt it is defining. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 20:24, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Time to put your foot down and elbow all of these. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 07:41, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and before they grow into Frankenstein's monster. --Richhoncho (talk) 14:29, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per WP:SHAREDNAME. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 14:15, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:46, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Deltaproteobacteria-stub
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 20:03, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Template:Deltaproteobacteria-stub ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Template:Deltaproteobacteria-stub ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: The bacterial class Deltaproteobacteria has been dismantled and four new phyla erected in its place (see here). New stub templates have been created for these new phyla (as needed) and the new stub templates have been placed in the appropriate articles. There is no longer any use for this stub and the associated category (Category:Deltaproteobacteria stubs) is effectively empty. Ninjatacoshell (talk) 20:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Ninjatacoshell: I think you might have confused CfD for TfD with this and the above nomination? As for the category, delete as empty and not useful. FrankSpheres (talk) 20:50, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Stub templates may be nominated here. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
- Presumably this nomination fits WP:G8. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:37, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Wikipedians interested in Sant Nirankari Mission
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:42, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Wikipedians interested in Sant Nirankari Mission ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:USERCATNO. Overly narrow scope. 1857a (talk) 19:53, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Historical letters
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Category:Slothrust albums
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 19:21, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Slothrust albums ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Category is entirely populated by redirects back to the artist's article, serves no purpose as an album category. Richard3120 (talk) 17:32, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 20:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete without prejudice towards recreation if any of the redirects grow into articles. FrankSpheres (talk) 20:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. A category of redirects all to the main article is not helpful. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:31, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Swabian-language writers from Germany
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 11:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Swabian-language writers from Germany to Category:Swabian-language writers
- Nominator's rationale: They are all from Germany and not likely to be from elsewhere. Rathfelder (talk) 10:03, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Rename, without prejudice to recreating if needed due to discoveries of secret Swabian literary cultures. I note the suggested target is already a redirect pointing to the cat under discussion, so this really should be fine. FrankSpheres (talk) 20:44, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Scholars and academics
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Former constituencies
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- The result of the discussion was: Rename/Merge Timrollpickering (talk) 21:03, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming
- Bangladesh
- Canada
- Category:Defunct Canadian electoral districts to Category:Former electoral districts of Canada
- Category:Defunct Canadian federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Canada
- Category:Defunct Alberta federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Alberta
- Category:Defunct British Columbia federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of British Columbia
- Category:Defunct Manitoba federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Manitoba
- Category:Defunct New Brunswick federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of New Brunswick
- Category:Defunct Newfoundland and Labrador federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Newfoundland and Labrador
- Category:Defunct Northwest Territories federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Northwest Territories
- Category:Defunct Nova Scotia federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Nova Scotia
- Category:Defunct Ontario federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Ontario
- Category:Defunct Prince Edward Island federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Prince Edward Island
- Category:Defunct Quebec federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Quebec
- Category:Defunct Saskatchewan federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Saskatchewan
- Category:Defunct Yukon federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Yukon
- Category:Defunct Canadian provincial and territorial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial and territorial electoral districts of Canada
- Category:Former Alberta provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Alberta
- Category:Defunct British Columbia provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of British Columbia
- Category:Defunct Manitoba provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Manitoba
- Category:Defunct New Brunswick provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of New Brunswick
- Category:Former Northwest Territories electoral districts to Category:Former electoral districts of Northwest Territories
- Category:Former Nova Scotia provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Nova Scotia
- Category:Defunct Ontario provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Ontario
- Category:Defunct Prince Edward Island provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Prince Edward Island
- Category:Former Quebec provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Quebec
- Category:Former Saskatchewan provincial electoral districts to Category:Former provincial electoral districts of Saskatchewan
- Category:Defunct Canadian federal electoral districts to Category:Former federal electoral districts of Canada
- Category:Defunct Canadian electoral districts to Category:Former electoral districts of Canada
- Estonia
- India
- Category:Defunct constituencies of the Lok Sabha to Category:Former constituencies of the Lok Sabha
- Category:Defunct Lok Sabha constituencies in Karnataka to Category:Former Lok Sabha constituencies of Karnataka
- Category:Former Lok Sabha constituencies in Madhya Pradesh to Category:Former Lok Sabha constituencies of Madhya Pradesh
- Category:Defunct Lok Sabha constituencies in Punjab to Category:Former Lok Sabha constituencies of Punjab, India
- Category:Defunct Lok Sabha constituencies in Uttar Pradesh to Category:Former Lok Sabha constituencies of Uttar Pradesh
- Category:Defunct Lok Sabha constituencies in Uttarakhand to Category:Former Lok Sabha constituencies of Uttarakhand
- Category:Defunct legislative assembly constituencies of Indian states to Category:Former legislative assembly constituencies of Indian states
- Category:Former assembly constituencies in Andhra Pradesh to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Andhra Pradesh
- Category:Former assembly constituencies in Bihar to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Bihar
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Delhi to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Delhi
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Goa to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Goa
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Gujarat to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Gujarat
- Category:Former Assembly constituencies of Haryana to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Haryana
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Himachal Pradesh to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Himachal Pradesh
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Jammu and Kashmir to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Jammu and Kashmir
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Karnataka to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Karnataka
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Kerala to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Kerala
- Category:Former Assembly constituencies of Madhya Pradesh to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Madhya Pradesh
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Maharashtra to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Maharashtra
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Meghalaya to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Meghalaya
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Punjab, India to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Punjab, India
- Category:Defunct legislative assembly constituencies of Rajasthan to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Rajasthan
- Category:Defunct assembly constituencies of Tamil Nadu to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Tamil Nadu
- Category:Former assembly constituencies in Telangana and Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Telangana to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Telangana (both are the same)
- Category:Defunct Assembly constituencies of Uttar Pradesh to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Uttar Pradesh
- Category:Former assembly constituencies in Uttarakhand to Category:Former assembly constituencies of Uttarakhand
- Category:Former assembly constituencies in West Bengal to Category:Former assembly constituencies of West Bengal
- Category:Defunct constituencies of the Lok Sabha to Category:Former constituencies of the Lok Sabha
- Norway
- UK
- USA
- Category:Defunct legislative districts of the United States to Category:Former legislative districts of the United States
- Category:Obsolete United States congressional districts to Category:Former congressional districts of the United States
- Category:Obsolete Massachusetts Senate districts to Category:Former Senate districts of Massachusetts
- Category:Obsolete Massachusetts House of Representatives districts to Category:Former House of Representatives districts of Massachusetts
- Category:Defunct legislative districts of the United States to Category:Former legislative districts of the United States
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with the category tree. Some things:
- Other nominations in the group are updated to follow the Wikipedia:Category names#State-based topics : the "... of <country/state>" as these are administrative divisions and not settlements.
- The Indian parliamentaries are named "Former Lok Sabha constituencies of ..." which seems out of consistency with others in the tree. The alternative would be "Former parliamentary constituency of <India/Indian state name here>"
- I proposed "Former assembly constituency of <Indian state name>" instead of "Former Assembly constituency of ..." (see Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Indian constituencies)) so that they are consistent with other in the category tree, viz. "electoral districts", "parliamentary constituencies"
- P.S. I haven't notified the creators. If required, please let me know. For now, I'll notify just the above respective country WikiProjects — DaxServer (t · m · c) 09:01, 3 May 2022 (UTC) (Updated with the entire list — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:18, 3 May 2022 (UTC))
- Support -- It will be good to have consistency between countries. In USA, we need to be careful over names so that we do not confuse federal and state electoral districts. I think UK constituencies use "former". Peterkingiron (talk) 15:38, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support - as the head category is Category:Former constituencies the subcategories should follow suit. 18:37, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support — former also is much clearer than defunct — GhostInTheMachine talk to me 08:21, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. 'Former' seems to be a more accurate word -- Ab207 (talk) 13:40, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
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