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June 25

Category:Theaters in Dagestan

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 31#Category:Theaters in Dagestan

Category:Pakistani wedding traditions

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 31#Category:Pakistani wedding traditions

Category:Macedonian Orthodox Church – Ohrid Archbishopric

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 31#Category:Macedonian Orthodox Church – Ohrid Archbishopric

Category:Judeo-Tat theatre

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 July 3#Category:Judeo-Tat theatre

Category:Judeo-Tat literature

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Judeo-Tat. – Fayenatic London 11:50, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with one article and one subcat. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:50, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Newspapers in Judeo-Tat

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge & delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:52, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:45, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Dagestani awards

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:53, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:39, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Russian cultural heritage sites in Dagestan

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) JBchrch talk 17:45, 18 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcat and one article. The other heritage sites in Russia are diffused by city rather than by federal subject. If merged, article Datuna Church should also be added to Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Russia. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:34, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Objects of cultural heritage of Russia of regional significance

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:55, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, "regional significance" seems not a defining characteristic, neither of the articles in this category mention it. The articles are already together in another category namely Category:Russian cultural heritage sites in Derbent. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:53, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep and populate. "Regional significance" (регионального значения) is one of the two tiers of listing on the Russian cultural heritage register, along with those of "federal significance" (федерального значения), equivalent to the National Register of Historic Places, the Grades of Listed buildings in the UK, and the many other List of heritage registers maintained by countries worldwide. That they don't mention it in the articles in the category (your use of "neither" implies there are two, there are currently six, though several are miscategorised and are listed as "federal significance" on the register) is a failure of the articles, which have been copied over from ru wiki. The register is enshrined by law, is monitored by a federal agency (Rosokhrankultura) and confers a degree of legal protection on the objects listed. It's concerning that cfd nominations are made with the rationale of "seems not a defining characteristic" based on a read of wikipedia articles which are often incomplete and are not reliable sources, without research or knowledge into what that characteristic actually is. Spokoyni (talk) 07:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • It would be helpful if you would update the articles if only by removing wrong category assignments. It is worrying though that even the Russian articles do not mention this properly. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:33, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's an issue for those articles, and those who write them there and here. It's not an issue for the categorisation scheme. I'd be prepared to take on this categorisation project, including the creation and population of the companion Category:Objects of cultural heritage of Russia of federal significance, but since it involves some 1,500 articles at least currently on the Russian wikipedia, it's a lot of work and I don't want to take it on without an understanding that this does constitute a defining characteristic of these subjects. Spokoyni (talk) 12:46, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a discussion about en.wp only and there are currently max 6 articles about which you have raised doubt whether they belong in this category. That is not a lot to check. If you intend to write more articles in English, by all means go ahead, but then you presumably will not include categorization mistakes to begin with. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:58, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Four of the six are listed as federal rather than regional significance, I've removed them. I've added as a sample the articles we have on sites listed as 'regional significance' from Rostov-on-Don, which has taken the category to 75 articles. Many of those do make specific mention of their listing status in their articles. If this is acceptable, perhaps the nomination can be withdrawn and I'll proceed along these lines to populate this category and a 'federal significance' one. Spokoyni (talk) 13:37, 26 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • The fact that it is well populated is not relevant. It was not a smallcat nomination to begin with. It is also not relevant that Spokoyni knows about the subject, that argument would amount to OR. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:21, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:Western visual novels

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. ✗plicit 11:39, 10 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think it is time for this category to be merged. The idea of a "western visual novel" has not been discussed indepth by reliable sources, and does not indicate a significant genre shift, as JRPG does, especially due to how often even western VNs mimic those of Japan (see also: Doki Doki Literature Club). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:00, 17 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 07:15, 25 June 2022 (UTC) [reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
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