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Category:Articles about multiple people

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: containerize and figure out the rest later. There doesn't seem to be anyone arguing for keeping the category around in its current state, although there isn't very much agreement on much else within this discussion. So, the category will be converted into a container category (which will effectively "make it hidden", at least on articles). There seems to be agreement that the category will need to be renamed after the containerization, but there doesn't seem to be any consensus on what it's new name should be. I'd suggest that someone boldly renames it and see if anyone objects. ‑Scottywong| comment _ 01:26, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: containerize per WP:TRIVIALCAT, the fact that an article is about multiple people is entirely trivial, but the category need to be kept in order to tie the subcategories together. The consequence of containerizing is that the category also needs to be renamed (as it will no longer contain articles). Possibilities are:
Note that the objective of the nomination is containerization while the consequence is a rename. With the objective in mind, any of the rename options will do.
This is a follow-up on this earlier discussion. @Rathfelder, Fayenatic london, Anomalous+0, DexDor, Peterkingiron, Dimadick, and Janke: pinging contributors to previous discussion - Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • What maintenance would the articles in such a category need? Maintenance categories are usually/always added by a template (rather than a category tag being placed directly on an article). DexDor (talk) 05:33, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Make hidden. as per Animalparty's suggestion. This is in effect a maintenance category, about articles with multiple topics. Several of which may need to be split eventually. Dimadick (talk) 07:57, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think we need to look at the subcategories before we decide what to do about this one. They are mostly perfectly legit. NB I am having trouble persuading people that Nonet should be in Category:Nonets. I'm told that disambiguation pages should not be in categories.Rathfelder (talk) 09:17, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I leapt to defend this at the previous discussion, seeing it as a useful way to group the sub-cats and some other valid content. However, it is a mixed bag (some of the above comments overlook this). It includes:
    1. Biographies of couples or other groups of 2+ people who acted together or had some other shared experience.
    2. Biographies of people sharing a name. Many are from the ancient world, but not all (e.g. Keaweaweulaokalani, Winamac). In many of these cases the persons were not contemporaries of each other. The pages could be split, but (as argued by User:Peterkingiron at CFD 2009 May 12) there is little point in splitting the articles, since in many cases nothing more will be known of them, and reducing them to standard form dab pages would be destructive.
    3. Articles about families, which do not need to be categorised here as they are already categorised within Category:Families. (Note: groups of relatives such as Witches of Belvoir come within #1 above.)
I would not object to splitting group #2 to a separate sub-cat, if there is a helpful name for it. – Fayenatic London 10:41, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Christian terrorism by country

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete, recreation permitted if coverage of this topic improves. MER-C 09:31, 19 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, unneeded category layer with only one subcategory. No objection against recreation if more country categories with a substantial amount of content on this topic are created, but I do not envisage that on a short term. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:15, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Latgalians

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 10:06, 9 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, does not contribute much to its parent Category:People from Latgale. The two biography articles are already in Category:People from Daugavpils, a subcategory of Category:People from Latgale. If kept, rename to Category:Latgalians (modern), aligned with its main article, and remove the subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:49, 28 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:15, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Category:People by historical province in Latvia

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Latvian people by location and then delete. ‑Scottywong| converse _ 01:43, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, probematic holding category. For both subcategories the word "province" is inaccurate (Livonia is a former confederation and a former Russian governorate; Courland is a former prince-bishopric, part of Livonia). In addition, the phrase "in Latvia" is quite problematic for Livonia because Livonia was actually bigger than Latvia (it also contained the southern half of Estonia). Finally for people from Courland we already have people by historical region in Category:People by cultural region in Latvia or Category:People by region in Latvia, so then this holding category is redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:33, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Were the two states contemporaries for a few decades? ("The states of the Livonian Confederation ceased to exist during the Livonian War of 1558–1582."). In any case, since a "by state" categorisation is out of the question given the fluid nature of states in the region, then a regional categorisation is best. Is "Eastern Baltic" a thing or "Southeastern Baltic"? I don't want to have the word "provinces" in the title as it raises questions of state "ownership" of provinces. Laurel Lodged (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hetmans of Livonia

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge to parents Category:Hetmans and Category:People from Livonia. Jan Hieronimowicz Chodkiewicz is already in Category:Duchy of Livonia; if this is incorrect, please move it to Category:History of Livonia. – Fayenatic London 06:54, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, small category and hardly defining for the one biography in it. Limited growth possibilities since the Duchy of Livonia only existed from 1566 to 1621. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:26, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MER-C 14:13, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Serer royal houses

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 June 2#Category:Serer royal houses

Category:Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao geography stubs

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 03:21, 27 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The related categories were renamed following consensus here. The stub category was opposed on the Speedy page and the opposition was not withdrawn. I have added the template to this nomination. – Fayenatic London 07:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Copy of Speedy discussion
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Category:Books by Anne Sexton

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:57, 26 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Anne Sexton is primarily known as a poet, known for individual poems (e.g. Sylvia's Death, Her Kind) and her books are chiefly if not exclusively poetry collections as opposed to novels, non-fiction, etc. I think a poetry category is more suited (compare to Category:Poetry by Emily Dickinson), at least until there are more Sexton articles to categorize. --Animalparty! (talk) 02:27, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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