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August 19

Category:1920 establishments in Northern Ireland

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. – Fayenatic London 17:06, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The partition of Ireland didn't take place till 1921. So Northern Ireland didn't yet exist. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 19:34, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Szatmár County

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:51, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A user has created categories like these two for nearly all the Counties of the Kingdom of Hungary. Not being inclined to list over 110 categories for deletion, I've brought this pair as a test case. If the discussion results in a deletion, we can see about a mass nomination.
Anyway, these counties have not existed for a very long time. At the end of World War I, most of the Kingdom of Hungary was absorbed by Czechoslovakia, Romania and Yugoslavia, and the counties stopped existing in any form by the mid-1920s at the latest, when these three states carried out wholesale administrative reforms. In Hungary itself, they lingered on, sometimes with altered or merged boundaries, as late as 1950, but the point is that they have been defunct everywhere for decades. And that is the main reason these should be deleted: we do not, as a matter of course, classify places or people by former subdivision. We do not, for instance, have subcategories for Category:Districts of East Germany – we do not classify places in present-day Germany by their East German district, nor do we categorize people born in East Germany between 1952 and 1990 according to these districts. Towns in southern Maine are not categorized based on their belonging to York County, Massachusetts until 1820, and neither are natives of that region assigned such a category, even if they lived there prior to its disestablishment. Categories pertaining to Danish places are correlated to the regions of Denmark extant until 2007, not the prior counties of Denmark; same goes for people. I could go on, but the point should be clear.
For Austria-Hungary, there already exist relevant categories such as Category:Austro-Hungarian people by ethnic or national origin or Category:Austro-Hungarian people by occupation. Defunct county of birth is not a defining characteristic. For places, I support enhancing the lists of places at the county articles (say, Szatmár County), but categorizing by long-dead counties isn't done. Moreover, there is always the possibility of a slippery slope. For instance, Timișoara, now placed in Category:Temes County, was also once the capital of Temeşvar Eyalet, a subdivision of the Ottoman Empire. Orăștie, now in Category:Hunyad County, is very near the capitals of the Dacian Kingdom and of Roman Dacia, the latter a subdivision of the Roman Empire. Where does it end?
In conclusion, I hope these are coherent arguments for deletion and that we can begin to get rid of this whole series of categories. - Biruitorul Talk 02:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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