Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RJ Tazz
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The result was delete. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:09, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
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Trivial mentions or event related news coverage and sources fail WP:RS. Does not meet WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:CREATIVE. Author probably has COI because all their contributions focuses on the promotion of Spice FM. ~ Nahid Talk 20:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
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Delete per detailed nom. --Micky (talk) 01:32, 20 June 2020 (UTC)Blocked sockpuppet --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 04:50, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:13, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Keep. This person has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources, e.g. Dhaka Tribune, The Asian Age, Daily Sun. And those are just sources in English. pburka (talk) 17:04, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom, fails WP:GNG. One/two interviews doesn't make someone notable, they publish this type of interview everyday. This article was created for promoted purpose. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:04, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
@আফতাবুজ্জামান: My dear, thanks for your valuable feedback on this page. As you have mentioned delete as per nom with GNG fail. I would really love to know if I do the mistake. If you see the reference you will find the content from Jugantar_Patrika Kaler_Kantho Jagonews24.com Daily_Sun_(Bangladesh) Dhaka_Tribune and more. Having significant mentions on the news. I want to learn how the nom fails the notability. Thank you for your finding. Sunny.pervez (talk) 19:18, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - passes WP:GNG per sources added by User:Pburka. Dhaka Tribune, The Asian Age, Daily Sun are all reliable sources and independent of the subject. If a person is the subject of a detailed interview by a media outlet it is an indication of notability. This is also not a case of WP:ONEEVENT as the person has been involved in several controversies. WP:GNG states, a topic needs to be the subject of significant coverage in more than one independent and reliable sources while we clearly have at least three here. There indeed appears to be a COI issue but that doesn't justify deletion as long as the article satisfies WP:GNG. --Zayeem (talk) 09:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, fails WP:GNG non- notable person. ErrorShadow420 (talk) 17:50, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
@ErrorShadow420: My dear, thanks for your valuable feedback on this page. As you have mentioned delete as per nom with GNG fail. I would really love to know if I do the mistake. If you see the reference you will find the content from Jugantar_Patrika Kaler_Kantho Jagonews24.com Daily_Sun_(Bangladesh) Dhaka_Tribune and more. Having significant mentions on the news. I want to learn how the nom fails the notability. Looking forward to hearing from you. Sunny.pervez (talk) 19:24, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Keep: With reliable sources indicated by pburka, the article is good enough to pass WP:GNG. ASTIG😎 (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 00:57, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
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- Delete, interviews are primary sources, which cannot contribute to notability, meaning that this person fails GNG. Devonian Wombat (talk) 00:25, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Devonian Wombat: My dear, thanks for your valuable feedback on this page. I would really love to know if I do the mistake. If you see the reference you will find the content from Jugantar_Patrika Kaler_Kantho Jagonews24.com Daily_Sun_(Bangladesh) Dhaka_Tribune and more. Having significant mentions on the top news if it not worthy to enlist on wikipedia I want to learn how the nom fails the notability. Looking forward to hearing from you dear. Sunny.pervez (talk) 19:27, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- As you ping me, A passing mention or interview isn't enough for notability. Here is my analysis:
- https://icetoday.net/2017/06/bold-and-beautiful-she-is-taking-the-internet-by-storm-with-her-fearless-persona-lets-do-an-air-check-with-rj-tazz-with-these-20-questions/ interview, primary sources, not WP:RS source = doesn't pass
- https://www.jagonews24.com/entertainment/news/503756 press release, interview = doesn't pass
- https://www.kalerkantho.com/print-edition/rangberang/2018/10/03/686942 completely unrelated, not even a mention = doesn't pass
- https://www.jugantor.com/todays-paper/city-news/161460/কড়াইল-বস্তিতে-স্পাইস-কেয়ারের-ফ্রি-মেডিকেল-ক্যাম্প just a passing mention = doesn't pass
- https://www.bd24live.com/96-4-spice-fm-came-forward-to-help-the-homeless-people-of-the-city just a passing mention = doesn't pass
- https://www.daily-sun.com/printversion/details/226861/96.4-Spice-FM-officially-launched just a passing mention = doesn't pass
- https://www.dhakatribune.com/showtime/2018/02/20/radio-rant-sparks-public-outrage talks about a prank call by tazz, usual entertainment news = doesn't pass
- https://www.dhakatribune.com/showtime/2018/02/24/rj-tazz-facing-legal-notice-over-controversial-prank-call talks about a prank call by tazz, usual entertainment news = doesn't pass
- https://www.somoynews.tv/pages/details/114897/%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%AC%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%93-%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2-%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%9C usual entertainment news = doesn't pass
- one mention in a newspaper doesn't mean anyone automaticly pases notability --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 19:52, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I disagree with your assessment of the Dhaka Tribune pieces. I presume that by "usual entertainment news" you mean the coverage is WP:ROUTINE, e.g. announcing the time of a radio show. These articles are WP:NOTROUTINE. They're significant coverage of an event (her controversial prank calls), indicating that the event and the people involved may be notable. You might make a WP:NOTNEWS or WP:BLP1E argument, but I think it's incorrect to dismiss them as routine. pburka (talk) 20:02, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for not using correct term. I meant to say that newspaper always published this type of news. One or two news of event like this doesn't give someone automatic notability. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:26, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Newspapers always publish stories about typhoons and wars, too. That doesn't mean they're not notable: it means they're newsworthy. What specific policy, guideline, or essay are you referring to? pburka (talk) 20:35, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- if you say a news about a prank call is enough for notability then i have nothing to say. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Prank calls certainly can be notable. We can tell these ones are notable because a major newspaper took note of them. I try not to make personal judgments, but to base my arguments on established policies, guidelines, and consensus. I urge you to review WP:N and WP:GNG, and to do the same. pburka (talk) 22:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Dhaka Tribune pieces can't be used to establish notability simply because they are not "Significant coverage". Those pieces focused on and addressed the event (prank calls) in detail, yes, but not the subject which is what we need for this topic. ~ Nahid Talk 22:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I disagree (they constitute significant coverage of her actions) but this argument is at least based on policy! Thank you. Even if she isn't notable, the radio station she founded, Spice FM, certainly is, and this page could be merged and redirected there, per WP:ATD. pburka (talk) 00:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Here are some more references i find that may help you guys and also let me know if i can add these on the references. 1. https://www.jagonews24.com/entertainment/news/503756 2. https://dailyasianage.com/news/48235/we-have-brought-the-cultural-shock-rj-tazz, 3. https://www.newagebd.net/article/38304/taking-a-joke-to-court , 4. https://www.bd-journal.com/entertainment/74545/%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A7%9F-%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%9C/print 5. https://www.bd24live.com/bangla/%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%95-%E0%A6%AB%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9F%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2-%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF/ i know social links dont pass GNG this links from Nagorik Tv broadcasted content which has been uploaded on thier YT channel later May helps to understand the notability of this public figure. 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N52XCGj9j0. Sunny.pervez (talk) 02:56, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- 1) talks about the nomination of the "best digital radio personality" at New York Festivals Radio Awards 2019. Which does not give automatic notability pass even if it's true (didn't find anything on the award website), 2) interview, 3) opinion piece, 4 & 5) circular of number 1 and fail WP:RS 6) talkshow. ~ Nahid Talk 09:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- You can check the details here [1]. Thank you dear.Sunny.pervez (talk) 10:37, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- 1) talks about the nomination of the "best digital radio personality" at New York Festivals Radio Awards 2019. Which does not give automatic notability pass even if it's true (didn't find anything on the award website), 2) interview, 3) opinion piece, 4 & 5) circular of number 1 and fail WP:RS 6) talkshow. ~ Nahid Talk 09:38, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Here are some more references i find that may help you guys and also let me know if i can add these on the references. 1. https://www.jagonews24.com/entertainment/news/503756 2. https://dailyasianage.com/news/48235/we-have-brought-the-cultural-shock-rj-tazz, 3. https://www.newagebd.net/article/38304/taking-a-joke-to-court , 4. https://www.bd-journal.com/entertainment/74545/%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%A6%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B0-%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%95%E0%A6%BE%E0%A7%9F-%E0%A6%86%E0%A6%B0%E0%A6%9C%E0%A7%87-%E0%A6%A4%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%9C/print 5. https://www.bd24live.com/bangla/%E0%A6%A8%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%89%E0%A6%87%E0%A6%AF%E0%A6%BC%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%95-%E0%A6%AB%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%B8%E0%A7%8D%E0%A6%9F%E0%A6%BF%E0%A6%AD%E0%A6%BE%E0%A6%B2-%E0%A6%B0%E0%A7%87%E0%A6%A1%E0%A6%BF/ i know social links dont pass GNG this links from Nagorik Tv broadcasted content which has been uploaded on thier YT channel later May helps to understand the notability of this public figure. 6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N52XCGj9j0. Sunny.pervez (talk) 02:56, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- I disagree (they constitute significant coverage of her actions) but this argument is at least based on policy! Thank you. Even if she isn't notable, the radio station she founded, Spice FM, certainly is, and this page could be merged and redirected there, per WP:ATD. pburka (talk) 00:48, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Dhaka Tribune pieces can't be used to establish notability simply because they are not "Significant coverage". Those pieces focused on and addressed the event (prank calls) in detail, yes, but not the subject which is what we need for this topic. ~ Nahid Talk 22:14, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Prank calls certainly can be notable. We can tell these ones are notable because a major newspaper took note of them. I try not to make personal judgments, but to base my arguments on established policies, guidelines, and consensus. I urge you to review WP:N and WP:GNG, and to do the same. pburka (talk) 22:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- if you say a news about a prank call is enough for notability then i have nothing to say. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 21:49, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Newspapers always publish stories about typhoons and wars, too. That doesn't mean they're not notable: it means they're newsworthy. What specific policy, guideline, or essay are you referring to? pburka (talk) 20:35, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry for not using correct term. I meant to say that newspaper always published this type of news. One or two news of event like this doesn't give someone automatic notability. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 20:26, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- I disagree with your assessment of the Dhaka Tribune pieces. I presume that by "usual entertainment news" you mean the coverage is WP:ROUTINE, e.g. announcing the time of a radio show. These articles are WP:NOTROUTINE. They're significant coverage of an event (her controversial prank calls), indicating that the event and the people involved may be notable. You might make a WP:NOTNEWS or WP:BLP1E argument, but I think it's incorrect to dismiss them as routine. pburka (talk) 20:02, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
- Redirect to Spice FM: Changed my vote, per reasons above, as an WP:ATD. ASTIG😎 (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
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