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The result was delete‎. Sandstein 15:59, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nicolle Verma (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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This article fails WP:BIO, due to insufficient reliable secondary sources about Nicolle Verma. The references are primarily promotional and fail to establish her independent notability under WP:GNG violating WP:NOTPROMO. Nxcrypto Message 15:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People and India. Nxcrypto Message 15:27, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Article has been improved with references and secondary sources from the press and media of reputed TV channels and newspapers.

It is neither promotional nor insufficient now. Intalk (talk) 15:52, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Intalk It seems like you haven't read WP:NOTINHERITED. Nxcrypto Message 04:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed with you, notability is not inherited. However there are several references that have been added to the article wherein it is visible that a 17 year old girl is achieving success in her own right by organising world class sports events abroad, involved in philanthropic midday meal schemes for the poor in India. At the age of 17 kids are playing video games and roller blading and not thinking about the poor. Read the articles that are added as source and if you still feel that my article does not pass muster then the decision is yours. I have been editing wiki for last 7 years, I don't indulge in any kind of promotion. Intalk (talk) 04:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Romania. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:44, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  The subject Nicolle Verma is a notable figure in Romania and India both. She has been involved in philanthropic activities herself and several articles in the Indian press are referenced. Also, she organised a kabaddi match in Dubai on her own at a stadium with Bollywood actor Suniel Shetty as the Chief Guest. This person passes muster with WP guidelines on WP:GNG and passes all tests. If 17 year olds who are being covered by the press in a foreign country and their work is being appreciated by the masses, then what would pass WP guidelines?

  I vote to KEEP the article. Intalk (talk) 04:50, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete poorly formatted article with references mainly talking about the relatives of the subject. Fails WP:GNG. ArvindPalaskar (talk) 05:03, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete — random rich girl, not encyclopedic material. — Biruitorul ^Talk 10:40, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source assessment table prepared by User:DandelionAndBurdock

Source	Independent?	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
The Verma Family Website	This is her family's official website.	Presumably, per WP:ABOUTSELF	The cited page is about Abhishek Verma, doesn't mention Nicolle once.	✘ No
The Verma Family Youtube	This is her family's official youtube channel	Presumably, per WP:ABOUTSELF	I only watched five seconds, but I'll be generous.	✘ No
LiveUtterPradesh and AajKikHabar.	These two have identical copy, indicating that they they likely just WP:PRSOURCEs and not independent journalism.	~ Presumably accurate information about the shelter.	Mentions Nicolle a few times with a few pictures her looking pretty, but it's all in context of the shelter opening, nothing about her specifically.	✘ No
NKTV, OutlookIndia and RepublicWorld	Same as above, identical copy and obvious churnalism. Should have been noticed by the article creator.	~ I imagine the information about Kabaddi is accurate, even if the language is a bit over the top.	This only mentions Nicolle Verma once, in passing.	✘ No
BusinessStandard	Credit where it's due, this is clearly labled as a press release.	~ Again, I assume the sports information is accurate.	This mentions Abhishek Verma once in passing but doesn't mention Nicolle once.	✘ No
This table may not be a final or consensus view; it may summarize developing consensus, or reflect assessments of a single editor. Created using {{source assess table}}.

• Delete as there is zilch independent coverage (see source assesment). Teenagers volunteering at a soup kitchen to bolster their resumé isn't out of the ordinary, if anything I'd say it's probably no less common than rollerblading as hobby. The author may want to refer to WP:42. -- D'n'B-t -- 20:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Poor page about a daughter of a billionaire that reads more as WP:PROMO. RangersRus (talk) 04:52, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Speedy Delete. Subject is not notable, by any measure of notability one could conceive of. Turgidson (talk) 07:08, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Subject is not notable and sources only mention the subject in passing. Article also fails NPOV. Grumpylawnchair (talk) 05:16, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.