The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to London Heathrow Airport. MBisanz ^talk 13:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Myrtle Avenue (UK) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

None notable street, one of many venues used for plane spotters - wikipedia is not a guide for plane spotting locations. MilborneOne (talk) 20:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I don't know it personally. However, I de-prodded the article because the linked BBC news story refers to it twice as 'the "Myrtle Avenue spot"', which seemed to confer notability. - Fayenatic (talk) 21:57, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and merge anything that isn't simply an aircraft spotting guide in London Heathrow Airport. It's a spot where someone parks their car and takes pictures of planes. I cannot see that meriting its own article. MvjsTalking 00:24, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 03:09, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep This location is obviously notable as the BBC citation attests. It is not an arbitrary place but is the best place to view aircraft at Heathrow, which is the busiest international airport in the world. This makes the spot foremost in its field. Colonel Warden (talk) 08:56, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment the plane spotting location is a field at the end of this cul-de-sac road no mention in the article that the road itself is notable. And just to note it is not the foremost spotting location as it can only be used when one of the four runway approaches is in use. MilborneOne (talk) 17:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• The BBC call it the "Myrtle Avenue spot" so we might change the name of the article. This is a marginal issue though, as is the exact ranking of the spot. The essential point is that the location is evidently notable. Colonel Warden (talk) 17:41, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nomination is for an article about a road that fails to claim that the road is notable or even mention anything about the road other than it used to access a field for plane spotting (not sure one mention on the BBC makes it notable). MilborneOne (talk) 18:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• delete The article sows the seeds of it's own deletion : "a street which is 'famous amongst aircraft enthusiasts'". I'm not convinced that notability within a relatively small group of people translates into encyclopedic notability (if it did, anything with a fan base would be an automatic keep). I also suspect that if you canvassed even a group of Londoners, not one non-spotter would know of this street (except for cabbies, i guess) MadScot (talk) 02:04, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• We are not here to document common knowledge and so Wikipedia contains large numbers of topics which are only known to a few people. Per WP:N, notability is distinct from "fame", "importance" or "popularity". Though, in this case, we may be sure that this place is known to the airport authorities, the police, the BBC and others. Colonel Warden (talk) 06:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge and redirect to London Heathrow Airport, perhaps a new sub-section "Aircraft spotting" at the end of #Access. More could presumably be added about viewing platforms at the terminals. Keep the original article (with page history) as a redirect, to allow tracing of contributors in accordance with GFDL. - Fayenatic (talk) 13:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge or delete Merge targets might be a new section in Heathrow Airport or Aircraft spotting locations in the UK. Since the latter does not exist (unless there is a similar article already), this would be in fact a rename. The content would then be reduced to a single paragraph, allowing for the best locations for other airports to be added. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:19, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per MadScot. Stifle (talk) 08:19, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.