Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mr Hamburger
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The result was delete. – Joe (talk) 20:59, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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A small Polish fast food chain, I am not impressed by references. [1] is one of the best, and it is still half interview/half rewritten PR. [2] is again a rewritten PR, and everythong else is worse. Fails WP:GNG/WP:NCORP, see also WP:CORPSPAM and WP:NOTYELLOWPAGES. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Hi, before writing the article I surveyed some other restaurant chain articles to see whether it is worthy to write about it. I realise it is a relatively small chain in comparison to international chains, however it does feature prominently around shopping malls. More importantly, between 2015-16 the chain saw profits increase by 43% suggesting future expansion. I found a few other sources which I'll aim to entwine within the article: Onet Biznes, Mambiznes (although its from 2009 it features quite a good number of data concerning set-up and locality); I though this one was quite good, an interview between the franchise manager on the status of the company. Here's one from Rzeczpospolita although Mr Hamburger is being discussed in relation to other Polish chains popping up around Poland. Here's a relatively good one concerning emerging competition with the Scandinavian restaurant chain Max. Tell me what you think. I might get back into making castle and road articles instead (I never had luck with businesses).
- Arbustum (talk) 06:55, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Let me review the new sources:
- [3] business statistics not conveying notability
- [4] - very minor publisher (minor internet portal [5] that has very low readability). The 3 paragraphs about the company seem to be based on an interview with one of the company managers. Overall, poor reliability and not helping with notability
- [6] - same issues - minor portal, interview, the only plus is this is focused on the company.
- [7] RP is a major, reliable newspaper, but it dedicates just few sentences to this company, and they seem to be based on an interview/quote with a manager, too
- [8] Brief coverage, seems to be based on press relese
- Sorry, I don't think your new sources help here. Please read WP:CORPSPAM and try to write about less spammy topics, please. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:16, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Let me review the new sources:
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 10:46, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poland-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 10:46, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 10:46, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- It could be a spamburger (lolz) chain of importance in the future, but right now, it doesn’t seem notable. Dysklyver 13:37, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
- Keep. Unlike Piotr, I think there's just enough - bearing in mind this is from Eastern Europe - to squeak past the bar of notability here. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:33, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
- As an Eastern European myself (through we call ourselves Central Europeans, btw) I don't think we should get a lighter pass at notability. Polish sources should be subject to the same scrutiny as others, and I couldn't find anything reliable/in depth here. This is just Eastern/Central European spam. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:46, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:22, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:22, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
- Delete
Keep I think that there's enough there -- especially considering this Reuters news wire.cnzx (talk) 20:52, 22 November 2017 (UTC)- How this reprinted press release of twitter length with 'business as usual' content adds anything here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:13, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- I looked at it again, and "Procner-Sport Lukasz Procner" seems to be some random franchise owner. You're right, I don't know why this is in a Reuters news wire -- I changed my mind. cnzx (talk) 06:20, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- How this reprinted press release of twitter length with 'business as usual' content adds anything here? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:13, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
- Delete Admittedly, searching for sources is tough. Hamburger a very common surname (so common that searches on "Mr Hamburger" - with any keyword I can think of - get hits like this one: " the manager of a fast food restaurant who just happened to wander in, and the guy was incredible! So we used him again on ' I Was Your Man', which is from the .... Back to Mr. Hamburger. One night I get a phone call from one of my old guitar players in ...", that was a gNews search on "Mr Hamburger" + Poland + restaurant. And then there is a well-known restaurant in Huntsville, Alabama by the name of Mr. Hamburger. Nevertheless, I did search and cannot find notability.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:41, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
- Delete - not enough in-depth coverage from independent, reliable sources to show that it passes either WP:GNG or WP:CORPDEPTH. Onel5969 TT me 17:12, 30 November 2017 (UTC)
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