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The result was merge to List of 1632 characters (fictional). \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 08:03, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Stearns (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Ignoring the works themselves, no real-world notability. See also news and [1]. "Michael Stearns" is even worse. Ricky81682 (talk) 07:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions. -- Jack Merridew 10:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions. -- Jack Merridew 10:04, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. -- Jack Merridew 10:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Just a lot of plot regurgitation. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete — non-notable fictional ex-prize fighter and college drop-out who rises to become regional president of the United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) local chapter, goes back in time to 1632 Germany to fight in the Thirty Years' War, becomes president of the New United States, Prime Minister of the Confederated Principalities of Europe (CPoE), and first prime minister of Gustavus II, Emperor of the newly formed federated republic, the United States of Europe. And he gets the girl. Sheesh. Appropriate for a fansite, but not an encyclopedia. Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: This is the central character in a currently-popular SF series with numerous novels and short story collections in print, and there's a torrent of precedent here. That the article needs cleanup is plain, but that's not a legitimate ground for deletion.  RGTraynor  11:57, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Can you find any third-party independent reliable sources that indicate some real-world notability? I thought that was the standard, not just whether the series itself was notable. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:46, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge into List of 1632 characters (fictional). Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 12:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. One of the main character of a bestselling series of novels. This seems enough to keep him around. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 15:20, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge, per above, no indepedent notability. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:43, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to the list of major characters. (Then do not turn around and delete that list, please.) A major character in an important fiction franchise. Edison (talk) 21:29, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  “Important” is subjective; this is a heap of franchise-spam dumped into the project. unsourced#plot. Cheers, Jack Merridew 00:52, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge into List of 1632 characters (fictional). Edward321 (talk) 23:08, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Main characters in a notable series get their own articles. Dream Focus 06:17, 31 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.