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The result was no consensus‎. This does not preclude merging or redirecting the article. – Joe (talk) 10:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Can't find anything but postal directories about this village — not even its coordinates. Unsourced since creation in 2011. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Kerala. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:58, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep WP:GEOLAND - is a census designated place, has a post office, has government recognition. BrigadierG (talk) 21:42, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Which source says that? Geschichte (talk) 14:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  There are plenty, but https://www.indiatvnews.com/pincode/kerala/ernakulam/memadangu as an example BrigadierG (talk) 09:13, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I also see https://www.indiatvnews.com/pincode/kerala/ernakulam/aluva-town-bus-stand. It doesn't mean we should have an article about the Aluva Town Bus Stand Geschichte (talk) 21:46, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Please see WP:GEOLAND BrigadierG (talk) 08:42, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  I only want to know which source refers to it as a census designated place. Surely, the census itself would be the logical source, not the unuseful link you posted, and with the census, we would also have its population. Geschichte (talk) 09:03, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:GEOLAND. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:30, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• This is a delete until the failure of WP:V is addressed. The above link doesn't help with anything, and so far the discussions has yielded little else than WP:PERX. Google Maps redirects Memadangu to Mekkadambu, but that is southwest of Muvattupuzha, not southeast. Geschichte (talk) 09:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  https://censusindia.gov.in/nada/index.php/catalog/29073/download/32254/29647_1981_ERN.pdf

  It's a census-designated place BrigadierG (talk) 11:29, 21 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• BrigadierG provided a link to 1981 census data above which contains data of Memadangu on page 150. Population 1,642 back then. However, it's only a subdivision of the village of Arakuzha. While it is a legally recognized populated place per WP:GEOLAND, I wonder if we should have pages of individual village subdivisions. I – perhaps unorthodoxly – suggest a Merge to Arakuzha. Broc (talk) 15:16, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Doczilla _{Ohhhhhh, no!} 22:35, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep cited in administrative reports which searched for graphite in the 1960s, listed in directories of rubber estates as a town, but most importantly cited in the Indian census: [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by SportingFlyer (talk • contribs)
• Question: Per my earlier comment, is Memadangu really Mekkadambu? Geschichte (talk) 11:01, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Answer: Apparently so. I am amazed that nobody else cared to reply. My search brought back the same. I hope everyone understands that JUST using "WP:GEOLAND" does not make a location inherently notable. A subdivision, that may be barely notable, might be better in a more general article where notability may not be questioned as GNG, at the least, must be satisfied. There are actually reasons why Wikipedia has PROVEIT and HEY. Already "small mountains, rocky hills, rivers, paddy fields, rubber plantations and pineapple plantations" can be removed as lacking in line citations. -- Otr500 (talk) 02:19, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Answer: No, Mekkadambu/Mekkadampu and Memadangu are both in Ernakulam but are separate locations with separate pincodes and postal branch offices.[2][3][4][5][6][7] map. Gmaps appears to incorrectly have Mekkadangu as "മേമടങ്ങ്‌" (Memadangu) instead of "മേക്കടമ്പ്" ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 11:27, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    (Oh yeah -- zero issue with consolidation at Arakuzha) ^~Hydronium^~Hydroxide^~(Talk)~ 11:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  No, GEOLAND is one of our weakest notability requirements. If we can verify it's a populated place, we're allowed to have an article on it. A subdivision doesn't count. SportingFlyer T·C 11:50, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• I'm leaning towards redirecting to Arakuzha or deletion. The only quasi-reliable source that shows Memadangu is a place for GEOLAND is the census entry. It's a spreadsheet entry with nine numbers that lists Memadangu as part of Arakkuzha. Per GEOLAND, Census tracts, abadi, and other areas not commonly recognized as a place (such as the area in an irrigation district) are not presumed to be notable. – I've looked through all the links provided here and have not been convinced this isn't some census-generated subdivision of Arakuzha. The links to news sites showing that there is a post office in Memadangu are irrelevant to me. The existence of a post office does not prove that the location it's named after is a populated place, and as Geschichte pointed out, there's also one of those post office entries for a bus stand, which is clearly not notable. Toadspike [Talk] 09:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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