The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: Delete as non-notable. Orange Mike | Talk 13:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-notable fancruft. This is a fictional character in a series of books, having no real-world notability. No encyclopedic content. The article is written as in-universe style, is solely plot summary, and is original research. Jerry talk ¤ count/logs 01:25, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Maybe semi-notable within the Redwall universe, but unfortunately, this character has absolutely no out-of-universe notability whatsoever. This is purely a plot summary and original research. (What is it about fantasy series that they attract cruft like iron filings to a magnet, anyway?) Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 03:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

possibly that WP people find them notable? DGG (talk) 01:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells•Otter chirps)} 04:20, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete non notable fictional character. Dgf32 (talk) 04:53, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and cut drastically. From the description she's a principal character in a notable series. The qualifty of the article is an example of what encourages such nominations, but thats for editing, not AfD. DGG (talk) 01:05, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as non notable fictional character. Eusebeus (talk) 15:47, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and merge back to Redwall. Catchpole (talk) 18:31, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as non notable fictional character. Anything salvageable can be put into the Redwall article. Bardcom (talk) 14:42, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge. I have not read the books, but agree with DGG that by description this character seems significant within it. By my reading of the proposed guideline at Wikipedia:Notability (fiction), I think it would serve Wikipedia better to trim this article substantially and merge it. I don't, however, think that Redwall is the best destination for it, as that article is already quite substantial. I think it would more appropriately be merged into Martin the Warrior. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 15:17, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Black Kite 09:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Smerge to Martin the Warrior, which already mentions Laterose. This is basically just an unnecessarily detailed plot summary of the book. Zetawoof_(ζ) 09:32, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment The fact that this is an example of how to not write an article about a character is a separate issue from whether it is appropriate to have one. Whether it should go be merged into he article for the book or stay separate is a matte of style; to avoid repetition, it might perhaps go with the book. DGG (talk) 18:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Just wanted to note that, if this AfD closes as merge, I'd be happy to performer the merger myself. I've watchlisted the AfD, but I can also be tapped on the shoulder with a note at my talk page. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 16:38, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak delete - disagree with DGG; it appears she's not notable enough for a mention on the Redwall article; the notable series. I don't think sufficient notability is there. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 09:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.