The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The only keep arguments appear to be done by a sockpuppet farm and have also been contested - with no rebuttal - for failing WP:ORGCRIT Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:04, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kelvin Wu (financier) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)

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The usual issues with a business leader vanity article. Largely reads like a corporate bio with hyperbole ("unicorn to be"). This is fixable, however the sourcing is insufficient for an article about an individual. It is a collection of press-releases about activities of the company which does not allow for writing of a proper biography for a corporate officer. The value of those sources for an alternative article about the company (AID) are equally doubtful. Therefore, raising AfD as failing WP:GNG and WP:BIO. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 07:05, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 07:05, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Hong Kong-related deletion discussions. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 07:05, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment the article was speedied twice G11 at Kelvin Wu. Tracy Von Doom (talk) 07:26, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. As per nom. Underwaterbuffalo (talk) 12:14, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep A notable businessman in Hong Kong, China. There are many notable sources available online in English and chinese also and can be added to article. Instead of deleting can be improved easily. Doingitgimpy (talk) 07:45, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doingitgimpy: your help in identifying those sources would be much appreciated. I take SCMP as the gold standard for HK reporting and the only sources I could find are around AID's investment in HMV, where Wu is sometimes quoted or mentioned. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 08:00, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Jake Brockman: I will be more than happy in mentioning references here. I just did a simple search on Google, and found many significant coverage about Kelvin Wu FinanceAsia, TheWrap, ChinaHollywood, Yahoo, Reuters, SixthTone, CUHK, AidFund, ScreenDaily, and Finance Yahoo Doingitgimpy (talk) 09:35, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep As per seeing above ref, this person seems notable. Article should be improved further Zinzhanglee (talk) 09:56, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doingitgimpy:,@Zianzhanglee: I am not convinced that those sources are sufficient. This is a mix of company listings, executive profiles, press-releases and "business as usual" reporting about company business where Wu is inevitably mentioned in his corporate role. The report about his suspension following lapses at Everbright Capital might count towards notability, though it is fairly weak. Very few of the articles are actually about him as opposed to being about a business. One can assume that every corporate officer will be mentioned in press about their companies. Even if AID was found to be notable, this does not automatically translate to their leadership. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 11:28, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep @Jake Brockman: I understand what are you trying to say. These sources are full featured articles about Kelvin only FinanceAsia, TheWrap, ChinaHollywood, Yahoo, Reuters, SixthTone, CUHK, AidFund, ScreenDaily, and Finance Yahoo. While others for actually what you saying mentions is representing Kelvin for CEO of the companies like Legendary East Ltd and Orange Sky Golden Harvest Entertainment Ltd. Film Studios,[1] Hailkatie (talk) 14:06, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Hailkatie: thanks for this. Those are the same sources mentioned above. "Fully featured" implies they are in-depth sources about the subject. However, they are largely PR and corporate business as I outlined before, falling short of "significant coverage". _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 15:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Note to the reviewing admin. This deletion discussion has attracted a some attention from very new users who have been registered in he last 1-2 months and with limited editing activity - a profile that also applies to the author of this article. Articles about Kelvin Wu have a long history of COI/promo/paid editing - refer to [2], [3], [4]. The article in Chinese is tagged as having promo and coi concerns. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 15:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  And I've CU-blocked all three of them. Not only do they all know each other, they are all almost certainly part of a UPE farm. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 21:45, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Passes WP:BASIC and as per above references should be kept. Funnygooster (talk) 11:56, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  Behaviorally the same as the above three socks, also blocked. MER-C 16:50, 20 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - article was created by undisclosed paid editor, now blocked. -Zanhe (talk) 01:37, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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