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The result was keep. Geschichte (talk) 18:27, 5 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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non-notable. This relies on unselective obituaries and notices. References 1 isn't even about her--it's about her father and mentions her name as one of his children. The book review is in a student paper. School yearbooks , wether accessed by ancestry.com or otherwise, do not show notability. We need more articles on the women who are actually notable DGG ( talk ) 21:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:50, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. She has an entry in Feminists Who Changed America, 1963-1975 (University of Illinois Press; 2006). I'm also surprised to find that we don't have a page for the People's Yellow Pages (Zobel was editor of the Bay Area edition). There's quite a bit of coverage of the publication and her role in it, e.g. SF Chronicle (22 Apr 1981), SF Examiner (27 Aug 1982), and The Rock (v.51, no.4, 1981, p. 34). It appears that her book, Minding her Business, was also reviewed in the LA Times (10 Sep 1999). Let's not delete pages like this one "on the women who are actually notable". pburka (talk) 22:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per pburka, and I have added more sources to the article that also support WP:BASIC notability as a tax expert and author, e.g. Los Angeles Times (2011), Midwest Book Review (2005), Entrepreneur (1999); she is also mentioned as an early board member of the San Francisco Women's Building in Mothering the Movement: The Story of the San Francisco Women's Building (2011). Beccaynr (talk) 23:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per location of more sources above per a potential upgrade WP:HEY. These folks in marginalized groups during the pre-google age can be a challenge to locate source material, but I think there’s now enough. Montanabw^(talk) 23:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per WP:HEY. There are 20 refs now, including some mentioned above. Not all refs need to support the subject's notability, btw; some just support individual facts. Yearbooks are only used as a published source for facts like "she graduated from Whittier College", and obituaries are only used as a published source for the names/professions of her parents. (I started the article.) Penny Richards (talk) 01:00, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per arguments by Pburka, Beccaynr, and Penny Richards. I would also say that this fulfills the WP:BIO guidelines and is definitely notable. Historyday01 (talk) 01:13, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per argument by Pburka and improvements made since the discussion was opened. Star Mississippi 02:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Pburka, and because of subsequent improvements. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Clearly meets GNG, significant coverage over time to write a detailed biography that confirms she was "news worthy" for over 40 years, from the mid-1970s to her death. (There are hundreds of articles about her in a search of newspapers.com.) Besides what is already in the article, she was one of the original editors who founded the People's Yellow Pages,[1] and the only founding editor who was still working on the project at their tenth anniversary.[2] She presented tax seminars throughout the US, including in Hawaii.[3] She was frequently cited as a tax expert and[4],[5] wrote articles about taxes for newspapers.[6] SusunW (talk) 14:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per the improvements made by other users since the discussion was opened. Pahiy (talk) 18:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. There is sufficient coverage of sources. Rondolinda (talk) 20:05, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep: the 'Feminists Who Changed America' citation combined with the SF Examiner pieces as cited by Pburka would seem to satisfy GNG. —Tom Morris (talk) 09:46, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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