The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Cirt (talk) 01:03, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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This is a procedural nomination. I declined an A7 speedy deletion request on this article, and am taking it to the community for discussion. I am personally neutral at this time. LadyofShalott 19:38, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions. —LadyofShalott 19:40, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Satirical and pointlessRanJayJay (talk) 19:48, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• RanJayJay has made no edits outside AFD so far. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 20:24, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep now that I've gutted the article. The previous form was poorly-Babelfished Spanish. I'm fluent in Spanish, so I was able to dig up a few sources. This says it got in trouble with the SGAE, which seems to be the Spanish equivalent of ASCAP. This says a similar thing a year previous. There is no shortage of coverage, but almost all of it is in Spanish. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Many otters • One bat • One hammer)} 19:49, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. —LadyofShalott 21:16, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CTJF83 chat 02:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete At the current state it's in, it seems a bit non-notable. I'd pretty much say add a couple more paragraphs to the page. Then I'll reconsider. Kind of on the edge thing. --Andromedabluesphere440 (talk) 15:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per TenPoundHammer. Spanish coverage is of the same value as English coverage. PanchoS (talk) 16:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep 125 results at Google news archive with significant coverage, from 2000-2010, and significant book coverage [1] demonstrate notability, even if in Spanish or other non-English languages. The existence of significant coverage in multiple reliable and independent sources, rather than quality of the present article, is the proper measure of notability. The multiplicity of significant coverage is there, and independence of sourcing appears to be there, but it is sometimes hard to evaluate reliability of foreign language sources. Since the Spanish Wikipedia has a pretty good article about Frikipedia, which was apparently machine translated to create this article, why couldn't someone skilled in Spanish just do a good translation of the referenced Spanish article, for starters? Edison (talk) 18:28, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Per TenPoundHammer and Edison. The nominator may want to consider withdrawing this AfD, since the article has been updated and improved. Warrah (talk) 02:09, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Since there have been delete votes, it is not possible for the nomination to be withdrawn now. It does no harm for the discussion to go its normal length anyway. LadyofShalott 02:39, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak keep. Notability comes from the attempt of the SGAE to close it down and the following internet campaign to reopen it. The event was fairly publicised in Spain for a few months, as it followed in the steps of several such measures from SGAE. Whatever the SGAE does gets a lot of (negative) publicity. That said, there are many Spanish reliable sources available to prove notability. At least in Spanish. Example 1 from El Mundo (Spain), Example 2 from Telecinco, Example 3 from Público (Spain). I have even found this from Clarín (newspaper) (Argentina's largest newspaper). I doubt there is English coverage about this wiki, so it comes down to whether Spanish coverage is as good as English coverage. Raystorm (¿Sí?) 14:45, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

• In the interests of full disclosure: I requested that Raystorm look at this article and comment here. I did not know how she would comment. Nor have I requested anyone else's input. LadyofShalott 19:21, 4 March 2010 (UTC) [reply]

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