Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fight Night Mannheim 2006
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The result was delete. Ironholds (talk) 01:09, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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a mere 2 gnews hits and one refers to an event in 2007 and not this event. [1]. this article merely confirms the event happened. google search merely confirms fighting websites and directory listing. having notable fighters or being televised does not grant automatic notability and does not mean at all strong keep. those wanting to keep must provide indepth evidence of significant third party coverage. LibStar (talk) 14:30, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep One of the strongest events in Germany and promoted by K-1 (the world’s strongest kickboxing organization) and W.M.C (the world’s most prestigious Muay Thai organization) with the W.M.C. incidentally having a world title fight on the card. While not the strongest line-up for a K-1 event these tournaments are an important developing event for future fighters who can compete against European level opposition before moving on to international competitions (possibly with K-1 or the WMC). I would argue also that these events are all part of the bigger K-1 picture and deleting these pages would weaken Wikipedia as a place for people to come for knowledge. To all that say that Wikipedia is not supposed to be about everything – I would agree, however, a series of events for a notable organization does not cover every single kickboxing event in existence and I (and other members) have no intention of swamping the site with results from the Cornish Amateur kickboxing league et al. The amount of deletion nominations must also be taken into account, making it very difficult for a small number of kickboxing enthusiasts that work on the Wikipedia pages to actually defend their work. Also do not approve of nominator telling me what kind of keep I can use - this is down to my own free will. Thank-you. jsmith006 (talk) 17:06, 3 July 2011
- Wasn't the WMC fight for a European, not world, title? Astudent0 (talk) 18:11, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep One of the strongest events in Germany and promoted by K-1 (the world’s strongest kickboxing organization) and W.M.C (the world’s most prestigious Muay Thai organization) with the W.M.C. incidentally having a world title fight on the card. While not the strongest line-up for a K-1 event these tournaments are an important developing event for future fighters who can compete against European level opposition before moving on to international competitions (possibly with K-1 or the WMC). I would argue also that these events are all part of the bigger K-1 picture and deleting these pages would weaken Wikipedia as a place for people to come for knowledge. To all that say that Wikipedia is not supposed to be about everything – I would agree, however, a series of events for a notable organization does not cover every single kickboxing event in existence and I (and other members) have no intention of swamping the site with results from the Cornish Amateur kickboxing league et al. The amount of deletion nominations must also be taken into account, making it very difficult for a small number of kickboxing enthusiasts that work on the Wikipedia pages to actually defend their work. Also do not approve of nominator telling me what kind of keep I can use - this is down to my own free will. Thank-you. jsmith006 (talk) 17:06, 3 July 2011
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. — • Gene93k (talk) 13:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- You're right - my bad. I would still consider that an example of notability (although obviously not quite as much). Also a German title fight on the line. jsmith006 (talk) 20:10, 5 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:02, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - The relevant WP guideline is WP:Event, which requires (WP:INDEPTH) "An event must receive significant or in-depth coverage to be notable. The general guideline is that coverage must be significant and not in passing." This event is rather minor, and has only 80 google hits, most of which appear to be Wikis. There appears to be no significant mention by independent secondary sources. Any important information in this article can be merged into a higher-level article on martial arts. --Noleander (talk) 00:20, 10 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, causa sui (talk) 03:45, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I can't find significant coverage of this event in multiple reliable independent sources, and as such this would not meet the notability criteria. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 22:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Minor event that does not have the reliable sourcing to suggest otherwise. Truthsort (talk) 23:52, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.