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The article lacks evidence of notability. It is almost entirely sourced to primary sources. There is one secondary source (Condon) but it merely states that the viceroy complimented Muhammad on the smartness of the battalion and presented him with a walking stick. RegentsPark (comment) 18:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. RegentsPark (comment) 18:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 19:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Per nom. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 08:17, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have now added Newspaper references to the King's Indian Orderly Officers section. There is also a newspaper reference for his appointment as Sir Phillip Chetwode's Aide-de-Camp which I will add by tomorrow. Daniyal Raja (talk) 13:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniyal Raja: The Glasgow Herald source doesn't mention him. Could you please provide the exact quote from the Western Daily Press? The citation is behind a paywall of sorts. RegentsPark (comment) 18:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's a very clear mention of him in both The Glasgow Herald references.

On the May 13, 1931 edition, his name is stated on page 15 under the title "The Court". Paragraph 3 says "The King received Lieutenant-Colonel G.B. Howell, 19th King George's Own Lancers (Officers in Charge) and the King's Indian Orderly Officers as follows, who were presented to His Majesty by Lieutenant-Colonel Stewart Patterson (Political Aide-de-Camp to the secretary state of India):-- Subadar-Major and Honorary Lieutenant Fateh Muhammad; Sardar Bahadur, 3rd-12th Frontier Force Regiment (Sikhs).........".

The other Glasgow Herald mention is April 7, 1931, page 2 under the title "King's Indian Orderly Officers" (just above the solutions of of yesterday's puzzles).

That paragraph says " The King's Indian Orderly Officers for this year will, it is officially announced, be Subadar-Major and Honorary Lieutenant Fateh Muhammad, 3rd-12th Frontier Force Regiment; Subadar-Major Rahimdad Khan, 1st-6th Rajputana Rifles........."

Both the Glasgow Herald references lead you exactly to these 2 pages. I don't know how it's looking on your end but they lead me directly to those 2 pages with his name his name or the section highlighted.

As for the Western Daily Press one, It is unfortunately behind a paywall but it states in full

"NEW INDIAN ORDERLIES ARRIVAL AT PLYMOUTH OF KING'S VETERAN ATTENDANTS

The four new Indian orderlies of the King arrived at Plymouth yesterday in the P. and O. Ranpura. They are Subadar Maj. and Hon. Lieut. Fateh Mohamed Khan, Resaldar Major Malik Khan, Resaldar Painda Khan, and Resalder Rahun-Dad Khan.

They proceeded to London in the Indian mail steamer. Their combined Army services amount to well over a hundred years.

Members of the Royal Commission on Labour in India also arrived in the Ranpura and proceeded to London in the liner." Daniyal Raja (talk) 19:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, and apologies for missing the references in the Glasgow Herald. Unfortunately, all these references are merely stating facts relating to Muhammad. It is unclear if any of these are notable. --RegentsPark (comment) 19:33, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, no evidence of notability, no good indepth sources about him. Fram (talk) 09:16, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, as nom mentions, there should be more notability in the form of secondary sourcing with significant coverage of the individual.

Someguywhosbored (talk) 11:14, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]