The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If anyone wants to use the contents for improving a help page, drop by my talk page and I'll restore it into your userspace. — Scientizzle 16:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Table of LaTeX symbols (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

This is a manual or 'how to' guide, which wikipedia is not. The information is available to those writing math in articles in the relevant help page. See the talk page for initial discussion. TrulyBlue (talk) 13:43, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - as useful as it is, this is a clear case of WP:NOTHOWTO.--Boffob (talk) 14:12, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NOTMANUAL- Nothing but recreation of WP:LATEX, categorized in a slightly different fashion (which is actually not helpful at all). If you can, push for speedy. Although I'm not sure what the rationale for that should be. ^LeaveSleaves _talk 14:45, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per WP:NOTMANUAL. That is what lshort is for! MuZemike (talk) 15:31, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete/Speedy Delete per WP:NOTMANUAL, is there a CSD for same material in 2 articles? --Numyht (talk) 17:23, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment:

Would you please consider moving this page to Help namespace?

• This is not lshort, because wikipedians can change, if necessary, and contains what it is actually accepted by MediaWiki.
• This is not m:Help:Displaying a formula, because it does not contain instructions how to edit formulas, and the names are next to the symbols (and not far from them).
• This is not a manual (because of its size), it is just a reference sheet.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

Regards, --Julian (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well Julian, m:Help:Displaying a formula both lists and explains syntax for LaTeX symbols and serves excellently both as reference sheet and usage guide. The article you created does not add any additional value to that document. It simply is a re-categorization of the symbols. ^LeaveSleaves _talk 18:57, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This page presents the information in a different way from m:Help:Displaying a formula. Analogously to what happens with infoboxes, navigation templates, lists, etc. , the reason of this re-organization is to simplify getting the information. There is a very short explanation at the talk page of why I consider useful having a reference sheet. Please, observe that this is not really a re-categorization.

On the other hand, I don't find anything harmful for the project if we keep this page.

Regards, --Julian (talk) 19:21, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But it is still the same information! It is no addition or modification to it. However, if you think this reference sheet is helpful in relationship with m:Help:Displaying a formula, may I suggest discussing its importance there? Article namespace is hardly an ideal location for lists of this sort. Also, hoping you won't take offense, may I suggest a read of WP:ATA, WP:NOHARM in particular? ^LeaveSleaves _talk 19:32, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No offense, I think that none of the examples shown in WP:ATA or WP:NOHARM applies to the page, as I explained at the talk page.

I moved the page to Help namespace.

Regards, --Julian (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help namespace does not work that way. Your page would eventually be deleted there. My suggestion was to discuss the issue on meta instead of here. And my other suggestion regarding WP:ATA was not in relation with the article but your comments above. Please read it carefully. ^LeaveSleaves _talk 19:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thank you for the clarification. No offense, anyway.

I still didn't find any refutation to what I said at the talk page. I'm showing concrete examples there. If we delete this page, it would be more difficult to improve a page at meta or to show arguments for a discussion.

Regards, --Julian (talk) 20:09, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Like I said before, if you see place for improvement in the help document you should discuss this in this project or on meta. Creation this article won't serve that purpose. Plus, this is a discussion on validity of this article and I'd prefer if we stick to that. ^LeaveSleaves _talk 20:21, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. While I don't think this should be in the article namespace, I do find it more readable and usable than Help:Displaying a formula. It would be a shame to delete it entirely. At least move it to project space or to user space. --Itub (talk) 06:16, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep in some form, possibly by merging it into Help:Displaying a formula. Michael Hardy (talk) 19:43, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.