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Hi Valereee
I appreciate your advice. I don't think what I commented was battle-grounding or bludgeoning though, in this instance. Jack4576 (talk) 16:13, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Sure, there are varying opinions on what constitutes those behaviors. But it's a risky move. Valereee (talk) 16:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- I understand its risky but my primary interest in this website is to contribute toward improving it, intelligently, considerately, and in good faith, I'm not going to be constrained in my approach just because of some motivation to remove sanctions; even if they were imposed for justified reasons at the time.
- Anyway appreciate your comments and advice Valereee. Despite our occasional disagreements in policy debates I have always valued your opinions and contributions. I'm thankful for your weighing in with advice. Go well. Jack4576 (talk) 16:38, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- And you! Valereee (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
WikiCup 2024 April newsletter
We are approaching the end of the 2024 WikiCup's second round, with a little over two weeks remaining. Currently, contestants must score at least 105 points to progress to the third round.
Our current top scorers are as follows:
- Sammi Brie (submissions) with 642 points, mostly from 11 GAs about radio and television;
- voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two FAs (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three GAs;
- Generalissima (submissions) with 523 points, mostly from 11 GAs about coinage and history;
- SounderBruce (submissions) with 497 points, mostly from a FA about the 2020 season of the soccer club Seattle Sounders FC and two GAs;
- Tamzin (submissions) with 410 points, mostly from a FA about the drink Capri-Sun and three GAs;
- Kusma (submissions) with 330 points, mostly from a FA about the English botanist Anna Blackburne and a GA.
Competitors may submit work for the second round until the end of 28 April, and the third round starts 1 May. Remember that only competitors with the top 32 scores will make it through to the third round. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAN, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs. As a reminder, competitors are strictly prohibited from gaming Wikipedia policies or processes to receive more points.
If you would like to learn more about rules and scoring for the 2024 WikiCup, please read Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring. Further questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges (Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs), Epicgenius (talk · contribs), and Frostly (talk · contribs)) are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Closing the T-ban thread at ANI
Hi, Valereee. Thanks for closing the lingering Nycarchitecture212 thread at ANI. I felt a pinprick of worry, though, when I saw Nycarchitecture's quite cheerful reply to your notification. Do you think it's possible that they misread your information about the ban being appealable after six months, as implying that the ban would expire after six months? Of course that is by no means what you said. But, as you remarked, they're quite new. And you didn't actually mention the word "indefinite" anywhere. Do you think we can be sure they got it? Bishonen | tålk 00:01, 12 April 2024 (UTC).
- Hm. Do you have any thoughts on how to fix? It's listed at Editing restrictions as an indef...I could leave another message at their talk explaining further? Valereee (talk) 10:57, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Another message is a good idea, I think. The user is surely not going to look up what the editing restrictions log says. Bishonen | tålk 15:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC).
- They got it lol... Valereee (talk) 21:40, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Another message is a good idea, I think. The user is surely not going to look up what the editing restrictions log says. Bishonen | tålk 15:54, 12 April 2024 (UTC).
Request to delete draft of Adel Rehman.
If Adel Rehman's draft is not notable then please remove this draft as soon as possible. It will be your great kindness. Rathorenareshrathore (talk) 07:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 16, 2024)
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:
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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is blocked from updating external links. Thank you. This is regarding one of your blocks, the user did not notify you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 16:50, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
This week's article for improvement (week 17, 2024)
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:
Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Antarctic • Fire safety Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • |
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Good article reassessment for Clementine cake
Hello Valereee. I noticed that you recently worked on the Clementine cake article. This is a neutrally-worded notice to advise you that the article has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, you can participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. North America1000 05:55, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Valereee (talk) 11:49, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
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Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrative action review regarding an action which you performed. Thank you. AlexAndrews (talk) 06:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
Seriously, paid editors like this exists?
Talk:Jack_Antonoff#Requested_Changes.
Wow. Do you think she's expensive? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:59, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- lol...well, she certainly seems to be experienced, and she understands the whole "we're all volunteers, make this easy for us" thing. There's been a similar paid editor at Bob McDonald (businessman) for years. We had to limit their requests, as the urge to polish became absurd. I finally just removed the section on board work as every time he went on or off a board, there was an edit request to update that section. Valereee (talk) 10:06, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
The Merchant of Venice
Hi,
Could I ask why you have vandalised the Merchant of Venice article and then protected it in its vandalised state?
Thanks,
Alex AlexAndrews (talk) 18:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AlexAndrews, Wikipedia has a very specific definition of vandalism which is editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia, in a variety of languages, presenting the sum of all human knowledge. You can find more information at WP:vandalism.
- You have edit-warred to insist upon the addition of content for which you have not been able to get consensus, and you have been casting aspersions on highly-experienced and long-trusted editors who have been pretty darn patient with you while you've done that. Despite the fact several of them have tried to explain the applicable policies to you multiple times, you are apparently unable to or unwilling to understand those policies. This is not serving you well. Valereee (talk) 11:10, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Valereee, to quote your reply:
... editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia ...
- The purpose of an encyclopedia is to provide facts that are informative and educational. The content I have added is not only factual but informative and educational. That informative and educational material has then been deliberately removed (repeatedly), thereby obstructing the project's purpose. Ergo, according to the definition you have quoted that is vandalism. You and the other editors on the article have vandalised it by removing the informative and educational factual material I have added.
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- I should like to know why?
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- My guess is that there is a chronic case of Groupthink where the article is concerned:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome ... The dysfunctional group dynamics of the "ingroup" produces an "illusion of invulnerability" (an inflated certainty that the right decision has been made). Thus the "ingroup" significantly overrates its own abilities in decision-making and significantly underrates the abilities of its opponents (the "outgroup").
- The repeated removal of my informative and educational factual material from the article is wholly irrational given the stated purpose of Wikipedia.
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- So again I ask: why have you vandalised the Merchant of Venice article? Is it because the consensus of the editors on the article is the irrational decision to vandalise it? AlexAndrews (talk) 19:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AlexAndrews, I did not vandalize the article. I protected it from someone who doesn't understand Wikipedia but thinks they do, and because of that is editing disruptively. But you're certainly free to report me to WP:AIV if you think I'm a vandal or to WP:XRV if you believe my admin action needs scrutiny. Valereee (talk) 23:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- As I clearly explained, you did vandalise the article given the stated purpose of Wikipedia that you yourself quoted. You are contradicting yourself and trying to explain away your irrational decision-making by falsely accusing me of editing disruptively (which is, in fact, what the other editors are doing) which I believe is called casting aspersions.
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- So that is first vandalism, then denial of that vandalism through its false rationalisation, and now casting aspersions.
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- All perfectly in line with Groupthink. AlexAndrews (talk) 05:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) AlexAndrews, you have been pointed to the explanation on WP:VANDALISM. You need to never bring it up again in contexts that don't apply or you risk being blocked for a lack of civility or of competence. The same applies to accusations of co-ordinated editing, irrationality, inconsistency, aspersions, groupthink and whatever other terminologies you have been throwing around in attacking and trying to discredit other editors. You're being given some leeway because you're new but you should expect people's patience to run out soon. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Encyclopedic content is non-contentious material that is informative and educational.
- The additions I have made to the article are non-contentious material that is informative and educational; in other words, encyclopedic content.
- Yet that encyclopedic content I have added has been repeatedly removed - that is the definition of vandalism:
... editing (or other behavior) deliberately intended to obstruct or defeat the project's purpose, which is to create a free encyclopedia ...
- So please don't falsely accuse me of using the term incorrectly, otherwise you risk being blocked for casting aspersions. AlexAndrews (talk) 19:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- (talk page watcher) (Non-administrator comment) AlexAndrews, you have been pointed to the explanation on WP:VANDALISM. You need to never bring it up again in contexts that don't apply or you risk being blocked for a lack of civility or of competence. The same applies to accusations of co-ordinated editing, irrationality, inconsistency, aspersions, groupthink and whatever other terminologies you have been throwing around in attacking and trying to discredit other editors. You're being given some leeway because you're new but you should expect people's patience to run out soon. — Usedtobecool ☎️ 11:38, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- @AlexAndrews, I did not vandalize the article. I protected it from someone who doesn't understand Wikipedia but thinks they do, and because of that is editing disruptively. But you're certainly free to report me to WP:AIV if you think I'm a vandal or to WP:XRV if you believe my admin action needs scrutiny. Valereee (talk) 23:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
Women in Red May 2024
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This week's article for improvement (week 18, 2024)
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:
Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Pool (cue sports) • Antarctic Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • |
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WikiCup 2024 May newsletter
The second round of the 2024 WikiCup ended on 28 April. This round was particularly competitive: each of the 32 contestants who advanced to Round 3 scored at least 141 points. This is the highest number of points required to advance to Round 3 since 2014.
The following scorers in Round 2 all scored more than 500 points:
- Sammi Brie (submissions) with 707 points, mostly from 45 good article nomination reviews and 12 good articless about radio and television;
- Generalissima (submissions) with 600 points, mostly from 12 good articles and 12 did you know nominations about coinage and history;
- SounderBruce (submissions) with 552 points, mostly from a featured article about the 2020 Seattle Sounders FC season, three featured lists, and two good articles;
- BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 548 points, mostly from a featured article about the snooker player John Pulman, two featured lists, and one good article;
- voorts (submissions) with 530 points, mostly from two featured articles (Well he would, wouldn't he? and Cora Agnes Benneson) and three good articles.
The full scores for Round 2 can be seen here. So far this year, competitors have gotten 18 featured articles, 22 featured lists, and 186 good articles, 76 in the news credits and at least 200 did you know credits. They have conducted 165 featured article reviews, as well as 399 good article reviews and peer reviews, and have added 21 articles to featured topics and good topics.
Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed during Round 3, which starts on 1 May at 00:00 (UTC). Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed.
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2024
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2024).
- Phase I of the 2024 requests for adminship review has concluded. Several proposals have passed outright and will proceed to implementation, including creating a discussion-only period (3b) and administrator elections (13) on a trial basis. Other successful proposals, such as creating a reminder of civility norms (2), will undergo further refinement in Phase II. Proposals passed on a trial basis will be discussed in Phase II, after their trials conclude. Further details on specific proposals can be found in the full report.
- Partial action blocks are now in effect on the English Wikipedia. This means that administrators have the ability to restrict users from certain actions, including uploading files, moving pages and files, creating new pages, and sending thanks. T280531
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This week's article for improvement (week 19, 2024)
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:
Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Exploration • Pool (cue sports) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 6 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • |
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UCM article
Hi Valereee. I'm not sure if my message got lost in the hustle and bustle of the talk page, but I've proposed new content which I think balances out concerns we've had with the Universal Classic Monsters article. Basically new sources have come available and the conversation has brought new material to the table that addresses a large chunk of viewing these characters as a franchise from a more serious angle. I've written a basic draft here and normally would just add it to the article, but as I'm being watched on WP:OWN etc, I want to clear the air and have others take a look at the draft first before I edit it in. It can be found here User:Andrzejbanas/sandbox/Universal Monsters. Thoughts? Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, @Andrzejbanas! Yes, I saw that. I'm just an admin at that article, which means staying out of content. Valereee (talk) 13:06, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
- Fair. I'm glad the conversation is happening on the article anyways again, as I wouldn't have looked up the information otherwise. And yesz totally fine if you didn't look, but just wanted to get input from others as I feel this content will be much more satisfying to the other editors issues. It's so great when good sources like this just fall into our laps. Anyways, thanks for the response. Andrzejbanas (talk) 14:13, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech issue?
I'm sorry I just reverted you. Occasionally I hit rollback by mistake. This is like the third time it's happened and it's frustrating. I have the confirmation prompt (are you sure you want to rollback?) and I always hit no, but this doesn't actually stop it from using rollback? I think I'm going to try and find out why that's happening because I don't think it should be. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:52, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- No worries, happens to many of us! Valereee (talk) 19:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
- Well ideally the prompt itself shouldn't be useless. I'm going to try and figure out what's going on there. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 19:57, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: April 2024
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This week's article for improvement (week 20, 2024)
Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is:
Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Ancient Egyptian architecture • Exploration Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 13 May 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI • |
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