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News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).

Guideline and policy news

• Following consensus at the 2021 RfA review, the autopatrolled user right has been removed from the administrators user group; admins can grant themselves the autopatrolled permission if they wish to remain autopatrolled.

• Additionally, consensus for proposal 6C of the 2021 RfA review has led to the creation of an administrative action review process. The purpose of this process will be to review individual administrator actions and individual actions taken by users holding advanced permissions.

Arbitration

• Following the 2021 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Cabayi, Donald Albury, Enterprisey, Izno, Opabinia regalis, Worm That Turned, Wugapodes.

Miscellaneous

• The functionaries email list (functionaries-enlists.wikimedia.org) will no longer accept incoming emails apart from those sent by list members and WMF staff. Private concerns, apart from those requiring oversight, should be directly sent to the Arbitration Committee.

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My apologies for not getting around to commenting on the move request before it was closed. I kept tossing it around, pushing it off and then the holidays hit and so much for me doing anything substantive. I don't think there's any title for that page that will keep everyone happy, but what you suggested (and where it's at now) is probably the best of the viable options I could come up with (the other being the Murder of Kathleen Peterson which is an existing redirect). The amount of publicity that was generated that focused on Michael (and continues to do so, still!) would have pushed me where you were. Kudos! Ravensfire (talk) 21:02, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Thank you! I am surprised it wasn't thought of before but when another user asked, that's when I looked at the policies again and remembered some article titles in the past few years when everything clicked. I suggested the trial name as the best case because I can easily see the argument on whether "death" or "murder" should be the article title due to the circumstances of the trial and the Alford plea. I am also in the process of finding of switching the infobox to {{Infobox court case}}. – The Grid (talk) 14:21, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

You relisted this AfD even though consensus for deletion was readily apparent - the one "keep" opinion did not address the reasons for deletion. Please do not needlessly relist such AfDs, or wait to do so until you are an administrator. Thanks, Sandstein 17:45, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know there was an error with my relisting, @Sandstein. When I was looking at the AfD before relisting, it was at 2 delete and 1 merge but I see from what you pointed out. I have been much more hesitant on relisting AfDs even before this item. Thanks again for letting me know. – The Grid (talk) 15:51, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

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Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2022).

Guideline and policy news

• The Universal Code of Conduct enforcement guidelines have been published for consideration. Voting to ratify this guideline is planned to take place 7 March to 21 March. Comments can be made on the talk page.

Technical news

• The user group oversight will be renamed suppress in around 3 weeks. This will not affect the name shown to users and is simply a change in the technical name of the user group. The change is being made for technical reasons. You can comment in Phabricator if you have objections.
• The Reply Tool feature, which is a part of Discussion Tools, will be opt-out for everyone logged in or logged out starting 7 February 2022. Editors wishing to comment on this can do so in the relevant Village Pump discussion.

Arbitration

• Community input is requested on several motions aimed at addressing discretionary sanctions that are no longer needed or overly broad.
• The Arbitration Committee has published a generalised comment regarding successful appeals of sanctions that it can review (such as checkuser blocks).
• A motion related to the Antisemitism in Poland case was passed following a declined case request.

Miscellaneous

• Voting in the 2022 Steward elections will begin on 07 February 2022, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 26 February 2022, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
• Voting in the 2022 Community Wishlist Survey is open until 11 February 2022.

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Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest.

• AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
• The template {{db-afc-move}} has been created - this template is similar to {{db-move}} when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

19:11, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi there,

The en dash is used as a "negative" symbol, whereas the hyphen is not used in this manner. This is found to be the case across tens of thousands of articles as well. Thank you. ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 20:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Though at the source, they may represent it with a hyphen. A hyphen is not used grammatically to represent the negative symbol "–" as opposed to "-". Despite this: https://geohack.toolforge.org/geohack.php?pagename=Temple_Terrace,_Florida&params=28_2_30_N_82_22_57_W_type:city ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 20:20, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

@Th78blue: From my understanding, there's − versus – (using the HTML entity coding to make it easier to distinguish when viewing this in the editbox). In the past, I usually remove this sentence from the article because:

• it's from an old mass import script for geographic boundaries, I want to say before 2010 - you can catch the usage of the script if an article includes the GPS coordinates and a description of 2000 census demographics (which the census no longer does in this format)
• having the point is not technically correct in the terms of a place as you usually have a boundary that can be described better in the prose (I leave the coordinates for the infobox and that parses everything to DMS anyways)

Seems like a minor thing and ways to avoid the issue. If anything, I suppose either way is ok. – The Grid (talk) 20:37, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

I am looking into this further. Thank you. I was unaware of &minus, but that is very interesting and you may be right. Either way, the regular ole hyphen I do not believe is correct, and yes, removing the Geo text altogether might be an ever better "solution." ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 20:42, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

How do you get the "&minus" to populate using standard wiki-markup? ♥Th78blue (talk)♥ 20:43, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

It's HTML mark up language and it's used for non-breaking spaces. The preview of an edit will show it in action and to show it as code you can use <nowiki> or <code>. Help:Wikitext shows some examples too. I have no issue with your revert as I appreciate the feedback on your interpretation of editing articles. – The Grid (talk) 20:53, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

22:58, 28 February 2022 (UTC)

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2022).

Guideline and policy news

• A RfC is open to change the wording of revision deletion criterion 1 to remove the sentence relating to non-infringing contributions.
• A RfC is open to discuss prohibiting draftification of articles over 90 days old.

Technical news

• The deployment of the reply tool as an opt-out feature, as announced in last month's newsletter, has been delayed to 7 March. Feedback and comments are being welcomed at Wikipedia talk:Talk pages project. (T296645)
• Special:Nuke will now allow the selection of standard deletion reasons to be used when mass-deleting pages. This was a Community Wishlist Survey request from 2022. (T25020)
• The ability to undelete the talk page when undeleting a page using Special:Undelete or the API will be added soon. This change was requested in the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey. (T295389)

Arbitration

• Several unused discretionary sanctions and article probation remedies have been rescinded. This follows the community feedback from the 2021 Discretionary Sanctions review.

Miscellaneous

• The 2022 appointees for the Ombuds commission are Érico, Faendalimas, Galahad, Infinite0694, Mykola7, Olugold, Udehb and Zabe as regular members and Ameisenigel and JJMC89 as advisory members.
• Following the 2022 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AntiCompositeNumber, BRPever, Hasley, TheresNoTime, and Vermont.
• The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey results have been published alongside the ranking of prioritized proposals.

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2022).

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC is open proposing a change to the minimum activity requirements for administrators.

Technical news

• Access to Special:RevisionDelete has been expanded to include users who have the deletelogentry and deletedhistory rights. This means that those in the Researcher user group and Checkusers who are not administrators can now access Special:RevisionDelete. The users able to view the special page after this change are the 3 users in the Researcher group, as there are currently no checkusers who are not already administrators. (T301928)
• When viewing deleted revisions or diffs on Special:Undelete a back link to the undelete page for the associated page is now present. (T284114)

Arbitration

• Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Procedures § Opening of proceedings has been updated to reflect current practice following a motion.
• A arbitration case regarding Skepticism and coordinated editing has been closed.
• A arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been opened.

Miscellaneous

• Voting for the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines has closed, and the results were that 56.98% of voters supported the guidelines. The results of this vote mean the Wikimedia Foundation Board will now review the guidelines.

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19:43, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

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Adding the onlyinclude tags around the short description on the Wikipedia:Database reports/Forgotten articles page is messing up the short description on the Wikipedia:Database reports page as it usually just transcludes the date which is in the onlyinclude tags, but now it's also picking up the extra short description. -- WOSlinker (talk) 19:34, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I was afraid of that happening. Thanks for the information - it looks like the article won't have a short description. – The Grid (talk) 19:39, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2022).

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RfC, a change has been made to the administrators inactivity policy. Under the new policy, if an administrator has not made at least 100 edits over a period of 5 years they may be desysopped for inactivity.
• Following a discussion on the bureaucrat's noticeboard, a change has been made to the bureaucrats inactivity policy.

Technical news

• The ability to undelete the associated talk page when undeleting a page has been added. This was the 11th wish of the 2021 Community Wishlist Survey.
• A public status system for WMF wikis has been created. It is located at https://www.wikimediastatus.net/ and is hosted separately to WMF wikis so in the case of an outage it will remain viewable.

Arbitration

• Remedy 2 of the St Christopher case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to place a ban on single-purpose accounts who were disruptively editing on the article St Christopher Iba Mar Diop College of Medicine or related pages from those pages.

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18:57, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

I mentioned you at WP:ANI#Disruptive template edits by Dawn PScLim. Schazjmd (talk) 23:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks! – The Grid (talk) 23:31, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

00:19, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I saw that you had previously left a note on Saturdayopen's talk page about making edits to the Level 5 vital articles list, which has been happening again on the writers and journalist list. I rolled back the removals that were made without discussion and my rollback was itself rolled back because 'this list has too many people'. It's a bold move, doubling down by rationalizing 'I'm doing something because I feel like it' by saying 'I'm doing something because I feel like it'. Do you have an opinion on this? Obviously WP:Bold comes to mind but this seems to be going further than that. Kazamzam (talk) 01:01, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

OK, why are you acting like you been involved in this since day one? Saturdayopen (talk) 01:04, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

The ad hominem argument of 'well you're new here' doesn't change the reality of your inappropriately removing articles from the list based on your personal and subjective criteria. It actually lends strength to what I'm pointing out, which is that you have done this kind of disruptive editing before and been warned by admins against doing it further. Kazamzam (talk) 01:14, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

The person has been dismissive about any criticism. At least I'm not alone on what I thought about the editing, Kazamzam. I would say discussion can be brought back on the talk page there. – The Grid (talk) 01:20, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

You know that's there been talks on reducing the number of people on here for years, right? Saturdayopen (talk) 01:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're even talking about but it's off topic to the situation. I realized you have been warned about your edits in the past. – The Grid (talk) 01:25, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Are you talking about the time when I removed a bunch of red links? Saturdayopen (talk) 01:29, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

20:27, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2022).

Guideline and policy news

• Several areas of improvement collated from community member votes have been identified in the Universal Code of Conduct Enforcement guidelines. The areas of improvement have been sent back for review and you are invited to provide input on these areas.

Technical news

• Administrators using the mobile web interface can now access Special:Block directly from user pages. (T307341)
• The IP Info feature has been deployed to all wikis as a Beta Feature. Any autoconfirmed user may enable the feature using the "IP info" checkbox under Preferences → Beta features. Autoconfirmed users will be able to access basic information about an IP address that includes the country and connection method. Those with advanced privileges (admin, bureaucrat, checkuser) will have access to extra information that includes the Internet Service Provider and more specific location.

Arbitration

• Remedy 2 of the Rachel Marsden case has been rescinded following a motion. The remedy previously authorised administrators to delete or reduce to a stub, together with their talk pages, articles related to Rachel Marsden when they violate Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy.
• An arbitration case regarding WikiProject Tropical Cyclones has been closed.

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02:45, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I noticed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trinity Christian High School (Lubbock, Texas), you quoted WP:NSCHOOL and WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES. Both of those were created to save everyone a lot of time by using common sense, but eventually became a loophole that allowed many poor articles to be created and survive. The community got fed up with that and pretty much gutted NSCHOOL and SCHOOLOUTCOMES and left them to die, essentially redirecting the reader to WP:GNG and WP:NORG. While common sense would tell us that an organization that has been around for decades, educated tens of thousands, employed thousands more, and made a huge impact in the surrounding communities is going to have tons of sources available (WP:NEXIST), and when they predate the internet, many of these sources will be offline, etc., etc., some editors are nominating these articles for deletion, defying common sense. In any case, we can make the arguments about the sources, including using the very reasons NSCHOOL and SCHOOLOUTCOMES were created in the first place, but quoting NSCHOOL and SCHOOLOUTCOMES isn't going to be productive. They don't say what they used to.

By the way, I'm not at all saying all school articles are notable, but when schools that are well over 100 years and have enrollment of several thousand are nominated, the nominator probably doesn't have any real understanding of WP:N and what AfD is supposed to be about. As Mark Twain said, "common sense ain't so common"!

Thanks for your time, I appreciate your efforts to make the encyclopedia better! Jacona (talk) 10:54, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm well aware of the RfC. However, my point to state them is the bullet points and summarized paragraph that is there. There's also important bullet points on the RfC which applies to Banner: Editors should not flood AFD with indiscriminate or excessive nominations. Regardless of the elapsed time with the RfC, is it acknowledged that print sources might be needed and sources might not be present online. – The Grid (talk) 16:25, 10 June 2022 (UTC)

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