Your edit to the Arthur Wellesley, 8th Duke of Wellington article has been reverted. Please note that a Duke is not referred to as a 'Sir'. His correct title would be 'His Grace', as stated at the end of the paragraph you edited. Richard Harvey 22:35, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When a Duke is a Knight of the Garter, and his style is written out in full (eg. John Smith, 1st Duke of Sunnydale) one adds the 'Sir' address to the name. A Duke is either 'His/Your Grace' in address, 'His Grace, The Duke of Sunnydale' in title, or '(Sir) John Smith, 1st Duke of Sunnydale' in full - usually used to distinguish between the Duke and the Duke's ancestors. 'Sir' is not replacing 'His Grace', but is is correct in the instance of the name being written in full to use 'Sir'. See Debrett's Correct Form.

I have read Debrett,s, We have a copy, or three, in our bookcases at Regimental Headquarters! However I will restate the obvious:- It is not standard practice to refer to the Duke, or any other peer with a knighthood, as 'Sir' in his title. When I refer to him during conversation I say 'His Grace' or when talking to him I say 'Your Grace', On formal Regimental photographs I have taken of him I have used 'His Grace', but that title would also be incorrect in the format used at the top of the aticle page. I anticipate you will also find other editors will agree and remove 'Sir' from the title, as has happened many times previously. Richard Harvey 08:55, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]