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before the question. Again, welcome! XLerate (talk) 23:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
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editorializing
I have undone several of your edits, as they are chatty and unWikilike. Please give the Wikipedia Manual of Style a read. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 14:17, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
No sources for your edits
I have reverted many of your recent edits because you have not given a source for your information. Your edit to the Robert Stack article in particular claims that "One source (says such and such)..." and yet you give no credit to any source. Is the source even a reliable source? Please refrain from making claims that you can not or do not back up with adequate sourcing. Dismas|(talk) 03:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
Mysterious grave
I think i've found what you're looking for. Check my latest response on WP:RD/H#The Gravestone with the Bloody Hand. Grutness...wha? 00:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
- and a little bit more info Grutness...wha? 00:25, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
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Jeffrey Dalmer
It's not a good idea to add your own personal analysis, especially if it is a piece of trivia and isn't really relevant.-Regancy42 (talk) 10:22, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Brain dumps
Hi. Just a bit of friendly advice about your contributions to the Reference Desk. Many times they look for all the world like brain dumps - long, rambling, meandering discourses that stray far from the point, and include links to all manner of irrelevancies. You will certainly lose a good chunk of your intended readership through the sheer size of your text - TLDR. Keep them shorter, more to the point at hand. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 20:42, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
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- Please make sure you do this. Signing a name other than your username is not a good substitute. If you would rather be known by another name please either make arrangements to change your username, or create a signature file that gives your preferred name and a link to your actual username. DJ Clayworth (talk) 19:43, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
January 2010
Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Viggo Mortensen. Thank you. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:57, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
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One again PLEASE SIGN YOUR POSTS. The fake signature you have been doing is not sufficient. It messes up the bots and confuses people who read them. Please see Wikipedia:Wikiquette for why you should do this. If you want your signature to look different, then please see Wikipedia:Signature for how to do this. DJ Clayworth (talk) 01:05, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- OK, it looks as if the signature isn't having the desired effect. Policy says that your signature should include a link to your userpage, which yours doesn't. That's why User:SineBot flags your edits as unsigned. Signatures which don't include your real username as a link are misleading for readers. Please have a look at the questions on User talk:SineBot. DJ Clayworth (talk) 03:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
- That's better, but still not quite right. You need a link to your actual user page User:Christopher1968, not the non-existant Christopher Lilly. It doesn't have to be visible. What I suggest is ''[[The Russian]]'' [[User:Christopher1968|Christopher Lilly]]. Alternatively, if you really dislike your username you can ask to have it changed. See Wikipedia:Changing username. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:46, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, I have given it a try, and I shall see if it works.The Russian Christopher Lilly 10:47, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- That's excellent. Thanks for your cooperation in this. DJ Clayworth (talk) 14:36, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
- But why do you associate your name with a comic character? Are you claiming to be that character? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 20:09, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Interesting you should ask. No. I clicked on the word Russian on my name's link to find it was a comic character, and I had no idea. Never heard of it. My brother in law may have, since he is a comic expert - especially wrt super heroes, DC and Marvel. ( I realise I have to click on my name to get to my page.) The reason I call myself the Russian is because of my brother in law's mother. Whenever we gather at her home, especially to watch sport, if say a good try was scored by our side, or something, I would clap very fast. This reminded her of a movie - ironically one I have as yet never seen - which I think was called No Retreat, No Surrender. I understand that in the movie, all the Russians are clapping in unison - as I recall seeing films of them doing at their party conferences, with no dissenters, of course - at their hero, which I see from IMDB was played by Jean Claude van Damn he's good, and this was exactly the way I was clapping. So she calls me the Russian, and says so everytime I clap like that, or even when I turn up. I got the idea for the clap from those very films of the party members, so by coincidence, the Russians were also doing it that way in that movie. This was similar to one I went to see at the pictures back in 1986 - Rocky IV. As far as I know, I have no Russian blood in me, but I do admire Russian culture, and especially their history, although preferably the likes of Catherine the Great, before the Commies wrecked everything. I was wondering whether people were asking themselves that question. Hope that clears it up. The Russian Christopher Lilly 12:56, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
- mmm .. but now that you're aware the link takes the reader to the comic character, are you going to continue to put it next to your name? It would be quite easy to have your user name come out as "The Russian, Christopher Lilly", by making a simple change to your user preferences. That would have the triple advantage of (a) not having to type "The Russian" every time, (b) not misleading anyone about your connection to a comic character, and (c) adhering more closely to Wikipedia policy on signatures. Cheers. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 11:16, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
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Can you give a source or sources for your recent edits? I found a way to use some of your additions, but a lot of what you said was already in another section. It didn't belong under "reception" because that's for how viewers and critics felt about the show.Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 19:21, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
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Just so you know, I've left a detailed answer on the maths reference desk. It's an idea of how I would solve the problem. Please see here. — Fly by Night (talk) 01:48, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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You seem well versed in the new testament. Did Jesus ever manage to cure gays? Or does pray away the gay work. Or is there any other faith based healing that can be done.
Or would there be another section you could specifically recommend to our baptist congregation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.34.69.78 (talk) 11:51, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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Secondly, they were all extremely trivial mentions/events of little or no significance, made on a TV show. Wikipedia is not a record of every single mention of a subject. Please consider in future; what significance does this have to the article subject? What new understanding about the article subject might the reader reach by knowing this?
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The manual of style guidelines here about 'popular culture' trivia might help. Thanks. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 16:24, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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Link related to WP:RDE question
Hey Chris! I just emailed you a link relevant to your WP:RDE question. -- ToE 06:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
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November 2021
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Christopher1968 - communication problems. Thank you. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:01, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Ritchie333: I beg you to refile this ANI and get this guy blocked. All he does is spam garbage. It's just completely inane and worthless trivia, completely oblivious to even the concept of what Wikipedia is, let alone what anyone says or does to stop him. WP:FANCRUFT WP:TRIVIA WP:OR WP:ICANTHEARYOU WP:NOTHERE. Just look at the disaster that is this talk page and all the edit history. Thank you! — Smuckola(talk) 03:25, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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WHSmith
Thanks for contributing to the article WHSmith. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that contributions must be verifiable through reliable sources, preferably using inline citations. Please help by adding more sources to the article you edited, and/or by clarifying how the sources already given support the claims (see here for how to do inline referencing). If you need further help, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia, or ask at the Teahouse, or just ask me. Thank you. Dormskirk (talk) 11:39, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
Smiths Group
Thanks for contributing to the article Smiths Group. However, one of Wikipedia's core policies is that contributions must be verifiable through reliable sources, preferably using inline citations. Please help by adding more sources to the article you edited, and/or by clarifying how the sources already given support the claims (see here for how to do inline referencing). If you need further help, you can look at Help:Contents/Editing Wikipedia, or ask at the Teahouse, or just ask me. Thank you. Dormskirk (talk) 09:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
February 2022
Hello. I'm Serge, an admin here on Wikipedia. I see you have a pretty long history of making unsourced additions to Wikipedia. Shockingly long, considering how long you've had an account here. It seems like you've gotten a lot of warnings, but just seem to ignore them. Well, I'm here to draw a line in the sand. Enough is enough. Sourcing is not optional on Wikipedia. The next time you add unsourced content to Wikipedia, your account will receive a short block. And if it keeps happening, subsequently longer blocks will happen.
If you need help with sourcing, please see WP:REFB. But opting out sourcing is not an option. If you have questions, let me know. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 15:34, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hi there. Yes, I've seen that you've been warned in the past for both unsourced editing, and for adding things perceived as trivial/unencyclopedic. I only warned you about the unsourced editing because it's a bit more objective of an issue, and honestly, addressing the sourcing issues with indirectly solve the trivia issue.
- Generally speaking, Wikipedia has moved away from WP:TRIVIA and "In pop culture" type sections. And while it can sometimes be difficult to draw the line between "unnecessary trivia" and "important to note", but the issue you mentioned is actually the most common way to determine this. If you can find a third party source that points out the same thing you're trying to note, that often means it's worth pointing out. And you use that as your source. If you can't find any third party source, then often times that means that it's unimportant trivia that's not worth mentioning in the first place.
- I'm sure you may not be 100% thrilled by this answer, as it may cut down on the type of editing you do. But it is how you're supposed to be editing, so hopefully it helps all the same. Sergecross73 msg me 17:41, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hey there. Wanted to make sure you saw this, as your recent edits, like this, don't really indicate that you're understanding what I'm saying here. Writing a sentence about where you saw some trivia in some reference brackets isn't really what we're looking for when it comes to adding sources to content additions... Sergecross73 msg me 13:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: It looks like this editor is continuing to fail to provide proper sources, as evidenced by this edit earlier today. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 14:41, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, again, merely writing some info in some reference brackets is not a source. I'm trying to work with you here, but I'm starting to get the vibe that you're more interested in paying lip service to me than actually changing your editing.
- Final warning. Do not add content without a real source. Do not add trivia unless you can supply a third party reference to establish its noteworthy of inclusion. Sergecross73 msg me 14:59, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- You are blocked for 1 week for repeated unsourced/poorly sourced adding of trivia to articles. Sergecross73 msg me 17:38, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Sergecross73: It looks like this editor is continuing to fail to provide proper sources, as evidenced by this edit earlier today. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 14:41, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
- Hey there. Wanted to make sure you saw this, as your recent edits, like this, don't really indicate that you're understanding what I'm saying here. Writing a sentence about where you saw some trivia in some reference brackets isn't really what we're looking for when it comes to adding sources to content additions... Sergecross73 msg me 13:50, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
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Sela Ward edit
I have reverted your addition of a date of birth to Sela Ward. Unfortunately, IMDb is not a reliable source for use as a citation in a Wikipedia article. Please see WP:IMDB. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:05, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, that is fair enough - I was not too sure about that myself. Thank You Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly 05:32, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Sometimes it's difficult to keep up with those guidelines. Eddie Blick (talk) 23:44, 23 May 2022 (UTC)
Ross Meurant
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. gadfium 09:42, 1 July 2022 (UTC)Christopher1968 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Insert your reason to be unblocked here - I understand this block is for my recent edit of the page on New Zealand politician and former police officer Ross Meurant. I carried out the edit just to add information that he was indeed involved in such a significant investigation in New Zealand's criminal history, and I did add references, one from a published book, which does show a photo of Mr Meurant's involvement in the Crewe Murder Investigation, as well as the link to the episode of the New Zealand TV documentary series The Investigator, which aired over ten years ago, but it was found on YouTube. I have acted in good faith in the recent past in adding references to the edits I am now making, as instructed, and I do apologise for not having done it before. I see that most of my current edits since I was last blocked in February have remained, but some have been reverted, but I am never told the reason why. If it is because they are trivial, I do apologise, but I have seen other references of similar things throughout Wikipedia over the years, where there have been comments about, say, a person or thing being mentioned in Popular Culture, and I have only tried to add to that. My intention has only been to assist Wikipedia in adding information I thought might be useful. I shall certainly be more circumspect in future as to what I do add if I edit parts of an article. Thank You Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly 10:30, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
I do accept that you have recently been making a good faith attempt to provide references for your edits, and to avoid the earlier problems. However, you really don't seem to have grasped the point of what Wikipedia references are for. For example, both of these two edits 1 & 2 give references which are explanations by you of the content of your edits, whereas a reference should be a citation to an external reliable source which confirms the information you provide in your editing. You are welcome to make another unblock request, but don't do so until you have read up about referencing, and think you can demonstrate to an administrator that you now do understand how to provide proper references. A couple of relevant pages which may help are Wikipedia:Verifiability & Wikipedia:Reliable sources. If I think of any more I'll come back and let you know. JBW (talk) 11:18, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
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- I checked the photo section of Yallop's book, but there's no mention of Meurant, and there's no index to the book. Please give a photo number, but if it's just a picture without a caption that's difficult to verify, especially so as some of the picture don't clearly show faces Similarly for the documentary, please give the time of relevance so we don't have to 45 minutes of it.-gadfium 18:32, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
As for the photograph of Ross Meurant in the book Beyond Reasonable Doubt, it is the 22nd photo within the photo section between pages 148 and 149 of the 1978 paperback edition, and it is on page eleven of the photo section. The same photo is pointed out in documentary True Crime Investigation: Who killed the Crewes?, presented by Bryan Bruce, and first broadcast on New Zealand on the 17th of July, 2012, where former inspector Meurant is identified from 16 minutes and 13 seconds into the documentary, and the same picture as in the book is shown, identifying him. He is the plainclothes policeman on the left, and he is reasonable recognisable, as he is also interviewed at this stage, admitting that he was sent in to search for evidence, in his first homicide, to which he admits to testifying at the Commission of Enquiry. He speaks the first time up to just before the 17 minute mark. Mr. Meurant is next interviewed by Bryan Bruce from 31 : 45 to 32 : 34, where the same photo of him carrying out the search is shown again, and he speaks about certain things that occurred in the succeeding years. As for my being blocked, I understand that, and I should know better, since I have researched and cited sources for essays many times, and I know the importance of giving good references. I shall look over the recommendations of what to read within Wikipedia to do with referencing, and plan to follow it.
- Photo 22 in my copy of the book is of stains in the passenger seat of the car, and that's on the 10th page of the photo section. Photos 23 and 24 are on the 11th page, and both show two police officers searching the garden. In both photos the officers have their heads down, and three of them I doubt anyone could identify because so little of their faces are visible. For the fourth person, I think identification would work only if you already had evidence that Meurant was there. I don't think it meets Wikipedia standards to say that photo verifies anything.
- However, I did find a source to verify that Meurant was part of the case, so I have restored your edit with that, and will unblock you with a suggestion that you provide more explicit references if future.-gadfium 23:52, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thank You for that, and I do appreciate it. I will do my utmost to follow Wikipedia's policies, and think before I edit - that is, does the article really need it, and is the source reliable. Thanks Again. 00:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC) Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly 00:58, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
More Trivia
The source you give in Girl with a Pearl Earring nowhere mentions the painting, so fails WP:RS. In any case, the article is about the painting, not commercial reproductions, therefore your reference is WP:OFFTOPIC. In the messages above, you have been warned that trivia is no longer welcome on WP; your obvious greater interest in the films rather than the painting shows you have no grasp of an encyclopaedia's editorial aims. Sweetpool50 (talk) 10:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
Blocked
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. Graham87 04:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
Enough is enough ... you've had many, many warnings and second chances, yet you've still continued to add trivia and make generally disruptive edits. Graham87 04:01, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
- My intention was never to be disruptive, nor to vandalise any Article. I was only adding what I honestly believed was relevant to the information therein, and following what I believed I had seen in other articles, where they do have sections on Popular Culture, and the material I had edited over the past few weeks was for the most part left there, so I thought it was Okay, but now there has been a purge going back over material that had been researched and referenced by me, and the references had been given. However, looking now at some of the things which have been taken off, I do understand that I have overdone adding pop culture references where it might not be appropriate, since things are mentioned repeatedly in movies and on television, and now I realise, as has been explained to me, that we cannot, nor should not, add every little tidbit into what is meant to be a serious article, and I from now on I shall look out for that in future. I just wanted to be involved, and assist in making the information in the articles as complete as possible. I do still believe that some of the material I have added need not necessarily have been taken away, for example, the references in popular culture to the Watergate, because I thought it was relevant to the article, that such a place has had such a significant impact on the history of the United States in particular. I would ask to be returned to being able to edit, and I acknowledge that I have simply gotten carried away with a number of these edits I have made, but not all. I just thought that if there is a person or thing that exists, and they have been featured in other media, that is part of the relevant information about it. If there are further instructions on what should be added to an article, and what should not, I am more than happy to read them. I also note that some of the things I have edited have been left there, and I understand why, where they were not unnecessary, and I hope these will remain, as long as they do add to the article according to Wikipedia's standards. This is not to say that I will start editing material willy nilly all over again, for now I realise that any Wikipedia article need to be properly researched, verifiable, and sometimes there are things we do not necessarily have to have in it. Thank You. Chris the Russian Christopher Lilly 02:54, 12 November 2022 (UTC)
- You've been adequately informed about Wikipedia's guidelines about trivia here and here, but have chosen to ignore them. Some people are just not suited to Wikipedia editing and unfortunately you are one of them. Graham87 12:48, 12 November 2022 (UTC)