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Sorry. My mistake. We were both trying to revert vandalism to the article at the same time. My timing was a little off or I just did not notice that your edit and not the vandal's had preceded mine. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Donner60 (talk) 04:01, 19 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No Problem at all. I'm thinking the article on Jonathan Tah probably needs to be reverted to the version way back on 04:29, 24 April 2016‎by Żyrafał. What do you think? Carlroddam (talk)

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I entered the following in the Biomass article.

“In Vermont in 2017, biomass cost $85 per megawatt. The price of wholesale power was about $25 a megawatt. Biomass is too expensive when compared to fracked natural gas.(citation)”

This was reverted because the source did not support this material.

The article reads “it costs big biomass plants like the ones in Burlington and Ryegate about $85 a megawatt to generate power, he [Sam Lincoln, Vermont Deputy Director of Forests+] said. Whereas, the price of wholesale power is about $25 a megawatt.” “’Biomass became expensive, compared to fracked natural gas in particular,’ Mr. Lincoln said. ‘”

I can remove the url, since that does not include the above per WP:SOURCELINKS.

The hard copy is quoted above. How do you think it should be summarized?

Thanks.Student7 (talk) 21:01, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Student7

Thanks for your message.

I just took another look at the source. The reason I did not see support for your words is that the article linked to is behind a paywall. I would need to be a paid subscriber to The Chronicle see the majority of the article. I'm not sure what Wikipedia's rules are about citing news articles behind paywalls. I'll go have a look for a suitable rule, now, and come back to this page ASAP to continue discussion.

Regards

Carl

Carlroddam (talk) 23:47, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK. I'm back. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Access_to_sources , it is OK to cite sources which cost money to access. Sorry about that. I will restore your edit.:

Thanks for writing to me, and I again apologise for not noticing that the article was cut short by a paywall. I originally thought it was just a short article which didn't support your words.

Regards

Carl

Carlroddam (talk) 23:56, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the smooth way in which you handled this! Student7 (talk) 22:37, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a lovely place to be when people talk to each other about edits, as we just have. Carlroddam (talk) 06:47, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Carl. I noted your self-reverted(!) edit about the coupe terminology. Indeed, it is quite a grey area. Adding to the confusion is that the BMW New Class platform (predecessor to the 3 Series) was used for both "2-door sedans" (2002, 1602, etc) and traditional streamlined coupes (2000C, 2000CS). It might be worth trying to establish a convention at WikiProject Auto? Best of luck with it. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 01:58, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Simon. Thanks for messaging me. In an attempt to make this more consistent / accurate / better etc. I've taken a look at the ISO for vehicle body type, ISO 3833-1977 (E) which I think is the latest one. It does not offer much help, sadly, except that it says "Usually, limited rear volume". I think the E21 (and possibly the E30) certainly fall under the term saloon/sedan, in part because they have 5 genuine seats. Do you agree? A coupe always has either two or four seats, but not five. From the E36 onward it gets a bit difficult to decide if it is a coupe or a sedan/saloon.

As for trying to establish a convention at WikiProject Auto, I'm not sure I'm up for that. I'll consider it though.Carlroddam (talk) 03:23, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That was a good idea to check the ISO... what a shame it isn't very helpful. I haven't heard of the difference being based on the number of seats, that seems too easily changeable (for example a manufacturer might offer options of a 3-seat bench or 2 buckets on the same model). My impression was that it is based on the roofline, eg perhaps the angle of the C-pillar. Although maybe there's so many inconsistencies that all we can do is take the manufacturer's description as gospel (such as when Mercedes started the trend by describing their CLS as a "4-door coupe"). These are just some musings out loud, so please take it with a pinch of salt. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For the record, the ISO says the following about the Coupe and the Sedan/Saloon: Sedan

• Body: Closed, with or without central pillar to side windows.
• Hood/Roof: Fixed, rigid roof. A portion of the roof may, however, be openable.
• Accommodation: 4 or more seats in at least 2 rows.
• Doors: 2 or 4 side doors. There may also be a rear opening.
• Windows: 4 side windows.

Coupe

• Body: Closed. Usually, limited rear volume.
• Hood/Roof: Fixed, rigid roof. A portion of the roof may, however, be openable.
• Accommodation: 2 or more seats in at least 1 row.
• Doors: 2 side doors. There may also be a rear opening.
• Windows: 2 or more side windows.

...so not terribly helpful at all in distinguishing between a coupe and a sedan/saloon.Carlroddam (talk) 22:43, 6 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, they sure are keeping it vague! Thanks for the info. Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 10:21, 7 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just fyi there is no need to "remove unwarranted double spaces". They don't render. Such edits just clutter up the article edit history and make more work for other editors, with no benefit to the reader.

Also, inserting a space between a number and the following unit is just fine, but per WP:MOS it should be a non-breaking space. Code this as e.g.: 3 mm or: 3{{nbsp}}mm.

Thanks for helping! Jeh (talk) 01:57, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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OOPS. I was trying to revert the valdalism / good faith eddit by Universe128 who changed the year from 2019 to 2018, but I didn't check the facts closely enough, and didn't realise I caught your edit too. Sorry about that, and thanks for fixing it. Carlroddam (talk) 03:24, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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