Yes, I can see that. But that's not proof. That's original research. Something has to say he's the 9th for it to be proof. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 02:13, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Original research like what Rouge said. While we can infer, we certainly cannot say without visual proof.--Hanaichi 07:07, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have absolutely no idea about what I meant. There is evidence that ALL captains wear the haori, and saying Kensei is a captain is accepted due to those circumstances. There is no evidence whatsover which places him at the 9th division captain, and infering from the positions in which they stand is obviously original research. Its just like how people were saying stuff about the Espada's positions, that this guy is 7 orc 8 or 1 or 2 or 3 from where they are standing because we know who they are standing next to.While this is a lame edit war, we obviously cannot verify anything about Kensei's division, and so therefore, wait for the next chapter to come out. --Hanaichi 09:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]