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Majority of those moves are not basic such as her Running shoulder block, Scoop slam, Sunset flip, which are moves that she does all the time. But I will admit that the Leg drop is a basic move. Other than that, I don't know how many times I have to say this, but I was told multiple times by plenty of creators and other wiki users that the sources are indeed reliable and said that there was nothing wrong with the page. I've been through this months ago with someone else. I was right then, and this is the same situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.5.95 (talk) 18:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You are just pointing out one thing!! Wow, pointing out an FCW tag team match, it is still reliably sourced and is notable because Kaitlyn and Audrey Marie were an alliance for a time before Kaitlyn was taken off the roster. Really, I'm not trying to start a war with anyone, its that there is nothing wrong with the page. No creators has told me to change anything, because they ALSO said the page was fine and the sources are good. If anyone is starting a war its you. I've been doing this page for a while AND doing it right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.5.95 (talk) 18:48, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Is it Kaitlyn's fault that John Cena only has 5 moves throughout his entire career than Kaitlyn having a variety of moves in the two years of improvement?? I don't think so. The whole bolding of the nicknames and stuff, ALL wrestlers wiki's do that to show that the nickname is still being used for them, and "The Girl Next Door" is a nickname she gave to herself on the very first episode of NXT season 3, and would later be a nickname she is still called today. I do not know how many times I've said this, but once again won't kill me. The creator said the resources were fine to use and that the page was correct. All the deleting of of 20 reliable sources is just not necessary. I've been through this so many timmes, changing resources b/c they were poorly cited and unreliable at first, but I fixed that problem by getting new (RELIABLE) resources, and they said that was better. Nothing is wrong with her moves, just because she has more than John Cena doesn't mean delete them. Alot of wrestlers have more moves than John Cena (Trent Barreta, Tyson Kidd, Justin Gabriel, Eve Torres, etc.). It doesn't mean anything. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.5.95 (talk) 19:59, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, on Beth Phoenix's page they have a section called "The Glamazon", and a few more wrestlers pages do that, it was never a rule until now, apparently. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.5.95 (talk) 20:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And John Cena is a HORRIBLE example to use. He has ALOT of stuff on there not even cited, ALOT of week by week events. If anything, you should be fixing that page instead of a page that was fine to begin with. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.5.95 (talk) 20:15, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

And what is with adding stuff WITHOUT a resource ("You Make the Rain Fall" theme). Your talking of me adding bad sources (which AREN'T), you're adding stuff with no sources. Your being a dictator and playing both sides. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.5.95 (talk) 20:30, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, you've officially gone off the crazy train. You think you've talked with God (there is no "creator" on Wikipedia), think match of the year winner Cena know less wrestling moves than WORST match of the year winner Kaitlyn, thinking someone specially saying once that they're NOT (NOT NOT NOT NOT) the girl next door means they said they ARE the girl next door and also made it their nickname. Want an example other than Cena? How about Hall of Famers Steamboat & Flair, considered the greatest of all time? You think they have less signature moves after having world champion careers that lasted longer than Kaitlyn's entire life?? Also, just because one page is bad doesn't justify making another page bad. Even if the Cena page is worse (it isn't, but your anti-Cena bias seems to make you think it is) it doesn't make this one good and doesn't mean I have to edit every bad wrestling page on Wikipedia. Although there's about as much info on Cena's last 2 years of being on almost every Raw & PPV (usually in the main event to boot) as Kaitlyn's 2 years of appears on a few months of NXT and a handful of Raw/Smackdowns. His time in OVW is 2 sentences, he had at least 1 tag match with Rico if they won the tag titles but it's not noted in his article. This page was good when those 13-14k non-notable and often wrong words were removed months ago, and the editors who added them were blocked.

Another point, even if you have a reliable source that doesn't mean it belongs here. If I find a reliable source saying Obama once ate a bowl of Froot Loops for breakfast, does that mean I should put it in his article?? What if THE CREATOR told me it was ok? Please review policies like WP:NOTE and WP:MOS (unless I hear an announcer say "And her opponent, from Houston, TX...The Hybrid DIIIIIVA!" then that NICKname (as opposed to RINGname, just like how "YOUR" has a different meaning from "YOU'RE") shouldn't be bolded. --66.203.207.68 (talk) 20:58, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, I'm not being bias and I have nothing against John Cena. Respect everything and all he has done for the 10 years he's been there. That whole Obama thing is different due to that being just a personal matter. The moves belong there as opposed to "Froot Loops", what? Okay, the nickname thing I can let go cause it's just a title, but the moves and the other stuff SHOULD be there cause majority of them are important matches like the Diva Championship matches, the build ups in the feud, etc. I would get it if I wrote one week Kaitlyn lost against Eve in a diva championship match, and the next week stating Kaitlyn defeated someone with nothing to do with the feud like Alicia Fox cause she has nothing to do with it. But the matches are necessary showing the build up of the two. And would you STOP comparing this page to John Cena's?! So what if he only has two sentences in his developmental territory (OVW) section. That doesn't mean Kaitlyn should have less too. Everything on her page (I get the whole Nickname thing) is fine, you're just comparing it to another page, which is not even a good example to compare it to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.176.5.95 (talk) 21:11, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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