The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by — Maile (talk) 15:46, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

• ... that the fictional dragon language featured in Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward was developed over five years before release?

• ALT1:... that the fictional dragon language featured in 2015's Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward was developed for its original release in 2010?
• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flags of country subdivisions (Oceania)
• Comment: Sorry this is coming in so hot, but I'd really like to get this DYK nomination in in time for August 27, 2016, which is the 3rd anniversary of the game's release. I've been in the oven for a while and the anniversary finally pushed me to finish it.

Created by Axem Titanium (talk). Self-nominated at 16:30, 19 August 2016 (UTC).

• Some issues found.
  • ✓ This article is new and was created on 00:26, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
  • ✓ This article meets the DYK criteria at 20758 characters
  • ✗ Paragraphs [3] (The ... VII.),[4] (The ... Nidhogg.),[5] (Heavensward ... war.),[6] (The ... descendants.),[7] (With ... Alliance.) in this article lack a citation.
    • The above paragraphs are plot/story sections which are cited to the work itself. WP:VG MOS does not generally provide such citations. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:14, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
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• No overall issues detected
  • ✓ The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 119 characters
  • ✓ The hook ALT1 is an appropriate length at 128 characters
  • ✓ Axem Titanium has more than 5 DYK credits. A QPQ review of Template:Did you know nominations/Flags of country subdivisions (Oceania) was performed for this nomination.

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• Date, length and hook all OK. QPQ done, no close paraphrasing. I would recommend using ALT1 however the original can be used if the fact is made clearer in the article. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review! I think I prefer ALT1 as well, now that I think about it. Axem Titanium (talk) 01:59, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

• It would be hookier to fashion a hook around the fictional dragon language and skip all the release details. Yoninah (talk) 21:15, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

• What were you thinking of? I'd like to keep something about the 5 year gap between creation and implementation if possible, since I think that's one of the "hookiest" parts of the factoid. Axem Titanium (talk) 23:45, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Axem Titanium: Then it's the first hook that you want, not ALT1. @The C of E: why didn't you think the ALT0 hook fact isn't clear in the article? Both the fact that it was released in 2015 and the fact that the dragon language is from the 2010 release are clearly cited in the article. Yoninah (talk) 14:27, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: Maybe this one splits the difference between ALT0 and ALT1? I don't have a strong preference, ALT0 is fairly compact and gives all the necessary details, IMO. Also, since we missed my first proposed date, do you think we could swing for September 27, which is the date of a major patch? Axem Titanium (talk) 17:23, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

• ALT2:... that the fictional dragon language featured in Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward was originally developed for a previous version of the game over five years earlier?

• @Axem Titanium: Yes, ALT2 sounds fine to me. Before I approve it, I'd just like clarification on what the source is talking about. It says: As I mentioned in the past, far back before even the original release of 1.0, I was tasked with creating an original language for the dragons of Dravania. How does that reconcile with developing the language for the 2010 edition? Yoninah (talk) 19:14, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

• @Yoninah: Ah, Final Fantasy XIV (released in 2010) is colloquially referred to as "1.0" by fans and by the developers themselves internally (A Realm Reborn is thus "2.0" and Heavensward is "3.0"). Here's a source describing the original release as "1.0": [1] Axem Titanium (talk) 13:31, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

• OK, thanks. ALT2 hook ref verified and cited inline. Rest of review per The C of E. ALT2 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 18:42, 18 September 2016 (UTC)